If the Republican party wants to run every race moving forward on a platform of rigged elections.... well I mean they have been in power...house, senate and gov...

"THE WHOLE ELECTION IS RIGGED FOLKS ITS A PHONY DEAL"
(Please do not make cheating accusations on the forum) -the fuzz

Texas restrictions on who can vote:
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-09-29/texas-voter-id-fight-keeps-getting-weirder

What's actually happened in past elections due to faulty polling machines and the software used to count Black Democratic votes:
https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2016-voting-technology/

@ND - In Illinois the dead vote Democratic in Chicago and the cows vote Republican downstate. It balances out, but at least the dead were once human voters.

COW VOTE? come on randomizer how did they MOOOOooove those heifers to the polls?

I mean James Cramer resigned today. He went to the white house 339 times and met with Obama 40+ times. So, yes there is proof.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDc8PVCvfKs

@Ogion: So, yes there is proof.

@Brainbomb: House and Senate elections are not national election elections. It's unknown how much fraud is done in local races, but evidence has surfaced that it is prevalent in national elections.

@Randomizer: Evidence that cows vote Republican please.

By the way I just finished and Trump probably won, but it wasn't a big win and it wasn't a knockout.

ND the Republican party is getting older, whiter and smaller. If the last 14 years havent proven that and it was all just fraud... why now? Not 08, 10, 12, 14?

^ OH MY GOD. That is ND's way of conceding the debate to Clinton. Amazing!!!

If Clinton wins, it won't be because of voter fraud - note the polls. Once again, polls can be wrong, like in Brexit, but Remain was leading by half the magnitude Clinton is right now (~4% to ~7%) and nearly /every/ national poll has Clinton leading. http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/national-polls/

Are you implying ND that Obama rigged both elections vs McCain and Romney? Because those candidates unendorsed Trump.... was all that rigged?

@Brainbomb: Lol. Unfortunately, I don't play the demographic identity game. The Republican Party has the best message for economic growth and prosperity thus the reason I support them. Message 'trumps' identity politics. Unfortunately, not everyone agrees with me.

@DemonOverlord: Double lols. No, he won, but it wasn't a 'heroic victory' and unfortunately because of all the low-information voters that live in this country that is what he needed. I do think that he will gain a bit in the polls.

Those candidates lost badly and both conceded. If Trump loses 317+ in electoral college should he concede or go state by state thru each lookin for fraud?

@DeathLlama: This was the most accurate poll in 2012: http://www.investors.com/politics/trump-leads-clinton-by-one-point-going-into-debate-in-ibdtipp-tracking-poll/

Note that Trump is leading it (leading the 4 way which is what this election is)

@Brainbomb: Yes, if Trump loses then there should be a state by state examination of fraud. No, I think Obama won legitimately in 2008 *due to the landslide nature of it*. 2012 may have been fixed.

Okay... Im gonna go eat some chicken wings and lose all faith in humanity. Good night.

What if Trump concedes?

Lol ND

ND makes great points.

Hey you guys are probably right. Say while theyre investigating state to state they better also impeach all those republican crooked governors who riggin stuff.

The polls in the next few days or so will be a huge indicator for this election.

Just because you dont play demographics doesnt mean the rest of the electorate is you. This is why the Republican party keeps losing, they dont get it.

They did get it after Romney lost, and wrote a playbook to try and fix the demographic play a bit. But Trump isn't the Republican Party. He appealed to a niche audience that the Republican Party was hoping to get and have the ability to expand off of, but Trump's appeals don't go far beyond that niche audience.

Rubio you mean. Wasnt Rubio their slam dunk to win young ppl and hispanic voters and he was supposed to deliver Florida.

They realized they needed to play the demographics game after Romney lost in 2012. Rubio would have helped with that, I'm sure.

I watched it, Trump lost, but has given Alec Baldwin plenty of material to work with

"Once again, polls can be wrong, like in Brexit"
I've seen a number of people say this, which is bloody confusing as the Brexit polls got it largely right...

USA is in big problems if it cannot find better candidate than either of those two.

The year of the Clump is particularly grim. It's almost as if no one wants the job. If the winner lasts for more than a term I'll buy a hat and eat it.

I'm going to hold you to that Oct.