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ssorenn (0 DX)
11 Sep 14 UTC
September 11th 2014----
13 years after an American tragedy, we salute those who lost their lives!!!
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"Have you been paying attention to all the shit your people have invented and thrown around since Obama was elected? Hell, since before he was even elected."
Not sure how the "he's not a US citizen" crowd and the "he's a Muslim" crowd are traitors exactly. Silly, yes, possibly even libelous, but I fail to see the traitor angle.
NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
12 Sep 14 UTC
I much prefer an ignorant bigot to an intelligent bigot ...... there are good reasons
Putin33 (111 D)
12 Sep 14 UTC
They think the US President is illegitimate/unAmerican and an enemy (Muslim). How is that not treason? They arm themselves to the teeth and hope for his death.

These are the same whackjobs who lectured every liberal about how we should all bow down and support Bush because he's "the President" and the "office must be respected".
"The Steve Kings in Congress are full of it."
Odd choice of example. Steve King is a backbencher at best.

"90% of the clowns in your organization"
I'll just call up the well-heeled country club set and let them know they've been collectively reduced to less than 10% of the Republican Party then, shall I?

"I apologize for calling the GOP fascistic. That's an insult to fascists everywhere." Did you mean to say that out loud?
"They think the US President is illegitimate/unAmerican and an enemy (Muslim). How is that not treason?"
Under what definition of treason are you operating?

"These are the same whackjobs who lectured every liberal about how we should all bow down and support Bush because he's 'the President' and the 'office must be respected'."
True, hypocrites would also be a good adjective for them.
tendmote (100 D(B))
12 Sep 14 UTC
"I much prefer an ignorant bigot to an intelligent bigot ...... there are good reasons"

What does that even mean? The "......" must be blotting out the most important part of that sentence because the rest is meaningless.

@OutsideSmoker27 I've voted for individual Republicans before but the racist dog-whistles used to motivate the Republican "base" are pretty indefensible. I wish they'd stop that shit and let the Jon Huntsman(s) of the party get someplace.

Still, I don't see how slandering the President is treason.
I should also add "major capitalist business leaders" to the "well-heeled country club" set.
@tendmote
"I've voted for individual Republicans before but the racist dog-whistles used to motivate the Republican "base" are pretty indefensible."
I concur. It's neither honest nor helpful -- nor, I would argue, particularly moral.
Putin33 (111 D)
12 Sep 14 UTC
"Odd choice of example. Steve King is a backbencher at best."

You want me to write a list of every conspiracy mongering jackass in your party? It'd be easier to make a list of those who are not. Just look at the insanity around Obamacare and how every Republican marched in lockstep claiming it was a 'government takeover' and the worst thing ever, when it was their own plan from 96. Death panels, death panels. OMG. Or look at the fetishization of Benghazi. Or the Republican attempt to deliberately tank the economy and the credit rating because they can't ever agree to do anything. Or the CPAC conventions about how Obama is going to get your guns. Or the endless cycle of chain letter emails about the latest lie the Republican smear machine has dreamed up.

Let me know who the moderate, sensible, "well heeled" Republicans elected to Congress are. I'd like to find some.

"Did you mean to say that out loud?"

Absolutely. Republicans want to tank the economy. Fascists wanted full employment. Republicans are incompetent. Fascists were competent. Republicans never met a war they didn't like. Most fascists in Europe (Germany being the exception) wanted to avoid war.


Putin33 (111 D)
12 Sep 14 UTC
"I should also add "major capitalist business leaders" to the "well-heeled country club" set."

Yeah like the Koch Brothers and the other billionaires who are funding all the tea party crazies. Well heeled indeed.
"You want me to write a list of every conspiracy mongering jackass in your party?"
No, just pick a better example next time. It'll make your argument stronger. Also, I'm glad we've sorted out that business about "traitors" and mutually found it wanting.

"Let me know who the moderate, sensible, 'well heeled' Republicans elected to Congress are. I'd like to find some."
We'll just change how we're defining members of the party then. Right. Okay. On this new topic, Lisa Murkowski, Susan Collins, Scott Brown (the once and trying-to-be-future senator).....oh wait, none of these people can be counted, since they all wanted to vote No on Obamacare. My bad! They're obviously crazy right-wing hacks. And Scott Brown, he's a carpetbagger, clearly proves his ideology is to the right of the Koch Brothers. Speaking of whom....

"Yeah like the Koch Brothers and the other billionaires who are funding all the tea party crazies. Well heeled indeed."
Well, at least you picked a representative sample with a substantial N, proving that the fever-swamp crazies have taken over numerically and the business-and-economics Republicans don't really exist. except as a small, whimpering minority off in a small corner somewhere.
JECE (1248 D)
12 Sep 14 UTC
Anyone interested in learning more about how the attacks happened should watch this documentary in full:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AJ056Ajqd0
(No, it's not 'truther' nonsense.)
I had to do a bit of digging to rediscover the film since I saw it so long ago, but I just watched much of it again and it's just as valuable today as it was then. Be patient with the first 20 minutes; this is not another movie about survivor's relatives.
mapleleaf (0 DX)
12 Sep 14 UTC
ALLAHU AKBHAR! There is only one God, Allah, and his messenger is Muhammad. ALLAHU AKBHAR!
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
12 Sep 14 UTC
Maple, you seem to be converting to a new religion an awful lot lately.
tendmote (100 D(B))
12 Sep 14 UTC
@mapleleaf Following up

“The only tragedy is the americans have learned NOTHING. Oh well, more unfortunately necessary lessons to come, probably”

with that “religious outburst” pretty much gives your whole troll-game away.
mapleleaf (0 DX)
12 Sep 14 UTC
They ought to celebrate Osama Bin Laden Day on September 11 in the U.S. like I do in Toronto. His triumph over the stupid cowardly americans warms my heart to this day.
mapleleaf (0 DX)
12 Sep 14 UTC
It amused me to no end that SO MANY of the first responders died slowly and painfully in poverty because of the so-called health care system in America.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA. MY HEROES. AAAAAAAAA HA HA HA HA.

ALLAHU AKBHAR.
zultar (4180 DMod(P))
12 Sep 14 UTC
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Mapleleaf, you have been silenced for 48 hours.
Despite what you think of 9/11, it is entirely inappropriate to laugh at those tragic deaths and the first responders who died in service of others. We have already made it clear to you last time that this kind of behavior and hiding behind "sarcasm" are not acceptable.
Actually, he didn't "laugh at . . . the first responders who died in service of others." He made a different, nearly-as-poor-in-taste "joke" about them dying "slowly and painfully in poverty because of the so-called health system in America." I'm sure he'll bring that to someone's attention before long. And when he does, the level of sympathy won't rise a millimeter: thank you for putting him back on probation.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
13 Sep 14 UTC
Maybe by next September 11 he'll have already been an idiot one too many times and gotten himself banned so we don't have to hear it yet again.
NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
13 Sep 14 UTC
Supporting people like Osama Bin Laden is not just offensive and upsetting for Americans it should be an affront to all decent people because we cannot live our lives with a 'hate culture'.
Despite the deeply aggressive and murderous foreign policy agenda that the US has employed since the 2nd World War it does not justify people like Bin Laden or Al Qaeda or Isis because even though they have only killed a small percentage of people that the US and its allies have killed their intentions are much more dangerous and harmful, their rule of law bears no resemblance to that which is sustainable in a multi-faith, multi-ethnic, multi-cultural world.
Obama has actually been criticized recently for not being more active in his foreign policy, which is quite ironic seeing the criticism Bush faced for the Iraq War in 2003, this is because the US has founded it's foreign policy agenda on direct military intervention or indirect intervention via arms supplies, etc.
The US has to find a new way with its foreign policy, not just a do nothing strategy that Obama has adopted, it is too late for that as the fate of Iraq/Syria/Palestine/Afghanistan/Sudan is already so intertwined with US foreign policy that walking away and taking your arms with you is not an option as the military/security/political vacuum it leaves offers too much opportunity for the bad guys to step in and take control.
If that is the case then do nothing is not an option but doing something becomes a bit more tricky, Obama has already suggested he is sending planes in on bombing missions inside Syria upsetting our mate Putin, surely as the Ukraine situation rumbles on this was a too little, too late foreign policy faux pas from a President who is way out of his depth on foreign policy. Talk about wade in late and jump in with your size 12 boots on (memories of other wars spring to mind).
What is needed is a change in foreign policy from the US but this could take years to unravel some of the complex and unstable political situations they have supported around the globe e.g. support of Karzai in Afghanistan, Netanyahu in Israel, Mubarak, etc, etc, etc.
In fact making poor foreign policy decisions has never deterred or taught the US anything as they don't seem to be getting much better at this game.
How did we end up with this deepening rift with Russia, ever more violence and death in Israel, half of the Middle East up in smoke. It would be naive to put it down to militant Islam or extreme religious Jihadists, that is good enough for Fox News but not for Al Jazeera, there are some serious questions that need to be asked about future direction and strategy of US foreign policy, but Barack has already been interviewed for the position and realized he can't do the job, Tony Blair has been about as effective as a chocolate fireguard in his role as Peace Envoy to the Middle East.
We need a 'Hope not Hate' agenda and many of us thought Obama was the man but he will be remembered for the killing of Osama and not much else, both men followed diametrically opposed foreign policies but both failed miserably because they offered no hope for the future, no way forward. Maybe the Al Qaeda and US foreign policies are different but ultimately the same as both lead to more fighting, more division, more bloodshed, no peace.
Are we destined as a planet to continually fight and destroy each other with ever more sophisticated and deadly weapons, if that is the case how long before places like London or Washington or New York become a target for mass destruction.
Maybe once we see the back of leaders like Putin & Netanyahu & Assad we could see a potential change in the various current conflict hotspots, but without new policies how can we hope to sustain peace in other areas, if you do what you always did you'll get what you always got.
What Maple is doing for us in his own inimitable style is shine a light on what is happening today, he is trying to shake us very gently by the throat in the hope that we wake up and smell the cappafrappachino before it is too late.
I include the UK and Europe in this as well, maybe Russia and Israel also, they must share the burden of responsibility, it cannot be done by one nation alone.
So although I do not condone the hateful and offensive comments in his posts Maple seems more concerned about the plight of this planet than many of the commentators on this forum, and maybe if we were all that angry and upset about what is happening in the world today we would bring about political change at all levels of govt that had an agenda beyond the small-minded partisan politics we currently see, there is so much more to this world than the Reds & Blues and who lives at the White House. We need to engage in a much wider debate, probably driven by social media as that is becoming the biggest arbiter of change we have ever known, shaping the collective conscience of our world, Zuckerberg is not an elected politician but has become one of the most powerful people in the world. Politicians will not end the fighting, they are busy funding and arming the fighters.
In this time of hate and war we, not the politicians, have to look for the answers.
Hope not Hate ..... we have more power than we think when we act together, how empowering was it to join millions of people the world over chucking buckets of cold ice water over our head. Fuck the useless politicians, if we wanna see peace in every corner of this planet more buckets and more ice will be needed..... nuff said.


jmo1121109 (3812 D)
13 Sep 14 UTC
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obi did you hack nigee's account?
Putin33 (111 D)
13 Sep 14 UTC
Did somebody actually complain about Mapleleaf's post or was this decision made of the moderators own initiative? I would really like to know.
ssorenn (0 DX)
13 Sep 14 UTC
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Who cares what you want Putin?
ssorenn (0 DX)
13 Sep 14 UTC
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Answer-> NOBODY
JECE (1248 D)
14 Sep 14 UTC
I meant "victims' relatives", not "survivor's relatives", of course.
Putin33 (111 D)
14 Sep 14 UTC
I don't get it. I really don't. Maple was banned for making two posts in a row. Krellin gets off scot free because he only made "one" post about killing homeless people for sport.
NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
14 Sep 14 UTC
They don't like Maple because he is anti-American ..... this website is like the UN, international but heavily skewed towards US interests, because that is where the money comes from
mapleleaf (0 DX)
15 Sep 14 UTC
Invictus (240 )
Fri 12 AM UTC
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Hey, Putin33. Go fuck yourself.
ssorenn (1469 )
Fri 12 AM UTC
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Putin be fucking respectful you worm. Go start some shit elsewhere. You are so lucky you have anonymity because of the internet.
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ssorenn (1469 )
Fri 12 AM UTC
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Maplebitch to bad you and I can't have a face to face conversation....ssorenn (1469 )
Fri 12 AM UTC
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I'll never mute you gopher boy. I will berate you perpetually. You are a loser with a losers job. You will go nowhere in life. You will have nothing. Go stick your tongue back up Putin ass , and lick it clean. You are a suck up and cry baby.

ssorenn (1469 )
Fri 12 AM UTC
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I have a tremendous amount of integrity. Go look up the word. I will always tell the truth no matter what. And you are a life loser. You can't even find your own hand to get off. That should tell you something.
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ssorenn (1469 )
Fri 01 AM UTC
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Your life is meaningless. Did your parents drop you on your head at birth. Probably. Would explain a few things.
mapleleaf (0 DX)
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zultar (3790 )
Fri 11 PM UTC
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Mapleleaf, you have been silenced for 48 hours.

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tvrocks (388 D)
31 Aug 14 UTC
7 game gunboat series
I'm thinking of starting one. would probably be 10 bet 2 day phase wta. no country switches probably. anyone interested in the idea?
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tendmote (100 D(B))
13 Sep 14 UTC
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Home Ownership
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Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
11 Sep 14 UTC
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Dick Cheney is a jackass.
That is all.
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Al Swearengen (0 DX)
08 Sep 14 UTC
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Post-apocalyptic Role Playing Game
Team,
As many of you know, I'm working on a post-apocalyptic video game.

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Crazy Anglican (1067 D)
13 Sep 14 UTC
Pop culture / Literature Jobs you DON'T want
Inspired by obiwan's "Best ..... of " Threads.


Let's come up with a bunch of really bad roles that if you get them bad things will happen to you.
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Randomizer (722 D)
13 Sep 14 UTC
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Richard Kiel
http://www.latimes.com/local/obituaries/la-me-richard-kiel-20140912-story.html
A towering giant in the acting field dead at 72. Most of you know him as Jaws in the Roger Moore James Bond films, but he played dozens of roles.
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obiwanobiwan (248 D)
07 Sep 14 UTC
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The Scottish Play: Independence for the Scots?
http://news.yahoo.com/supporters-scottish-independence-narrow-poll-lead-first-time-005404318.html
I'm nowhere near well enough informed to comment on whether or not that's a good idea, culturally, financially, or otherwise, so I defer to the British WebDippers--what do you think about this, yea or nay, and are you worried they'll take 12th Doctor with them if they do? (WOW is Capaldi's accent thick!) ;)
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JamesYanik (548 D)
13 Sep 14 UTC
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Contributing to WebDip is apparently bad
I've made a lot of games his last year and a user named 'vinnylanazzo' joined a lot of them. 'Yanik is back' 'Age of empires' and 'cats' games. Now I got suspected of metagaming so should I just not make games?
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Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
11 Sep 14 UTC
Is there interest in a REAL tournament on this site?
Looking at having a real cash buy-in. First, second and third places receive a cash prize, proceeds go to the site. Additional prizes for best country, and a few other notables (best stab, etc.). Maybe getting the site to put an emblem on your profile page (after all, we're paying money) for awards earned.
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Zach0805 (100 D)
13 Sep 14 UTC
Fall Of Labor Day 2
Join Fall Of Labor Day-2
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jimbursch (100 D)
13 Sep 14 UTC
What exactly is the relationship between webDiplomacy and Hasbro?
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
11 Sep 14 UTC
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Roger Goodell's Resignation
No, it hasn't happened, but it should. After all, all he cares about is PR - wouldn't that be a great PR move?
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tendmote (100 D(B))
13 Sep 14 UTC
We need to invent a new sport
Let’s design a new sport that minimizes the need for expensive gear and controversial refereeing. Additionally that players should not end up dead or in the hospital. What shall this sport be?
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Maniac (189 D(B))
12 Sep 14 UTC
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How offended are you?
My nephew and his girlfriend are starting a business and asked me to help in the formation. Companies House (the UK organisation responsible for registering companies) just refused to register their name. Crazy Cnuts Limited, because it offends people. How offended are you?
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jimbursch (100 D)
12 Sep 14 UTC
Credit for taking over CD
I took over a CD in this game (Italy):
gameID=145028
but my profile indicates 0 CD taken over. How do I get credit for the good deed?
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Ogion (3882 D)
12 Sep 14 UTC
Orders not loading?
I don't seem to be able to order anything because the order all say "orders loading..." Without actually loading. Is anyone else seeing this?
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
10 Sep 14 UTC
Are our enemies' enemies' our friends? - The case of IS
So I guess tomorrow (for me as a European it will be tomorrow) Barack Obama will deliver remarks on his anti-IS strategy. (IS is this crazy islamic thing in the Levant). How far should western nations go in allying with IS' enemies, such as Assad in Syria and the Ayatollahs in Iran?
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NigeeBaby (100 D(G))
02 Sep 14 UTC
Definition of Socialism
"Socialism has absolutely nothing to do with the Soviet Union; Socialism is merely a form of organized compassion."

can you top that.....
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JamesYanik (548 D)
11 Sep 14 UTC
2 MORE WORLD GAME CATS
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Dovale (544 D)
11 Sep 14 UTC
Retreat and support.
If unit A supports movement to place X, but then is dislodged and movement fails leaving place X still empty, can A retreat to X? Or is it like A tried to move there itself?
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donkey.kong (100 D)
11 Sep 14 UTC
1 player needed
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=147279

Password: euro
1 day game times
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tcdix1 (1925 D)
09 Sep 14 UTC
Most supply centers in a single turn?
So recently, I was in a game where I was able to convince someone to give me his 3 home centers, another center, and support me to 3 centers occupied by other nations in a single turn, all so that he would survive the game. I went from 11 centers to 18 all in one turn. Do I was curious, what's the most supply centers everyone has captured in a turn. It would be difficult to do more than 9 I think, but I guess not impossible?
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Chaqa (3971 D(B))
10 Sep 14 UTC
Feature request - play noise on phase change
Mostly for live games... a beep or ring when a game processes would be super useful. Is it possible?
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OB_Gyn_Kenobi (888 D)
10 Sep 14 UTC
5 min "live" game questions
I'm pretty new to the site and intrigued by the "live" 5 min cycle games. Are they literally 5 minute rounds or is there a lot of pausing? Do people communicate over the messaging system during them? In general, how long of a block of time do you need to set aside to play in them? Thanks in advance, any advice is appreciated.
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jmo1121109 (3812 D)
11 Sep 14 UTC
Destiny
Who's playing it, how is it and should I get the PS4 or the XBOX 1 to play it?
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mdrltc (1818 D(G))
09 Sep 14 UTC
Diplomacy Board Game: Wood or Plastic?
There are a number of 'vintage' Diplomacy board games on the market. When playing F2F, which do you prefer, wood or plastic? And why.
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ag7433 (927 D(S))
09 Sep 14 UTC
Rotating Diplomacy
Is there a way to play so that...
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
09 Sep 14 UTC
Any Piano Players?
If you are, teach me this - http://www.scribd.com/doc/48706422/Scott-D-Davis-Hotel-California
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tendmote (100 D(B))
07 Sep 14 UTC
What has The Internet done to Education?
I don’t have kids, and I was just about out of college when the Internet struck (collecting my first paychecks elsewhere as Netscape went public in 1995), so I have never had any experience with what The Internet has done to education. Do students bother learning facts anymore? Is Google everyone’s external brain? Does anyone know anything? Is everyone a plagiarist? What gives?
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