@ Gunfighter: "You're suggesting that a Boeing 777 dropped out of the sky with nothing more than an oil slick without alerting ATC, a scenario that would require....."

No, I'm not. I'm not suggesting at all. My position is that I have absolutely no idea what has happened. You're the one engaging in pointless speculation based on wild assumption.

I reiterate, it's not wild speculation. I'm just pointing out that which is suspicious as fuck, is indeed suspicious as fuck.

OK, so quasi-suspicious (as it is being reported the stolen passports used for travel is common in the human trafficking trade, and obviously human traffickers wouldn't want to bring the plane down with them and their "slave" on board).

Yeah, an airplane with an exceptional safety record crashing into the South China Sea without a trace mere minutes before handoff to Vietnamese ATC, with over 100 red Chinese nationals and two stolen passports on board. Nothing to see here people.

Latest report is that radar records shows the plane might be farther west than the area they are looking at for debris.

An Air France crashed in 2009 and it took 3 searches over 2 years to find it.

One of the guys with the passports was an illegal immigrant trying to make it to Germany, as I thought, there are many uses for false passports especially in that part of the world.

This plane crashed, despite the knee jerk reaction a terrorist attack at this point doesn't make sense as no one has claimed responsibility. What good does killing 200 people on an aircraft do to a terrorist organization if you don't even say who you aimed the attack at.

And Gunfighter, it is wildly inappropriate to refer to 200 people who just died while traveling as "Red Chinese" I know you will never get a clue, but you might try to get some class.

Yeah, every one knows the Chinese are yellow, American Indians are red, and Africans are black </sarcasm>

the plane was abducted by aliens

@ SantaClausowitz

What? I'm a "racist" for clarifying their nationality? As I understand it, they were indeed PRC citizens, aka Red Chinese. I was simply distinguishing them from ROC citizens, aka Chinese.

It saddens me how quickly we forget the bottomless evils of totalitarianism and communism. Let's not forget that the founder of Red China, Mao, is revered as a quasi-God despite being the worst mass murderer of all time. Hell, Mao makes Hitler and Stalin look like amateurs by comparison. The title "Red Chinese", as derogatory as it may seem on the surface, is both accurate and well-deserved.

Hey idiot

Why are you quoting "racist" when I never used or implied that word. I implied that you are classless, which you are, for characterizing 200 innocent travelers who died by their home nation's polifical preference, and then continue to show your classless nature by bringing up Mao for some reason or another. Honestly, what the fuck is your problem.

@ Santa

Okay, I jumped to conclusions about erroneously thinking that you thought I was being a racist.

How am I classless for correctly identifying the nationality of the passengers on board? "Red China" is a legitimate stand-in for "PRC"

Wow, here's an update from the BBC:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26583342

How's that for a weird development to the story?

"a Boeing 777 dropped out of the sky with nothing more than an oil slick"

You have made this claim numerous times. They haven't even found an oil slick so what is your source for this claim? In fact, the plane is now thought to be in the Indian Ocean, 1000 miles from it's last point of communication, so I don't know what news service you got the oil slick bull from, but they are full of shit.

http://aattp.org/exclusive-a-former-naval-officer-savagely-debunks-the-conspiracies-surrounding-malaysia-airlines-flight-370/

I found this article amusing and very well written.

"This plane crashed, despite the knee jerk reaction a terrorist attack at this point doesn't make sense as no one has claimed responsibility. What good does killing 200 people on an aircraft do to a terrorist organization if you don't even say who you aimed the attack at."

Well, seems like the evidence is pretty strong at this point that the foul-play crowd were right.

From YJ's article:

"Most likely, and by “most likely” I mean the probability is approximately 99.999999999999%, the plane and its unfortunate passengers are scattered across a large portion of the seafloor under the Gulf of Thailand."

Wow, I guess it's good he left himself 0.000000000001% wiggle room. Do you suppose that's sufficient to avoid all the egg on his face, or an apology, or anything?

the plane was abducted by aliens

@puntang, you really should be more worried about the email in your inbox from [email protected] then you should be about aliens.

"You know, somehow, 'I told you so' just doesn't quite say it."

-- Detective Del Spooner (played by Will Smith)
I, Robot (2004)

The foul play crowd claimed that the fake passports meant that this was terrorism, they weren't the "foul play crowd" they were very specific in who they thought it was . Now that the new information has come out, it strongly supports someone on board was crazy and had a death wish, or made some botched attempt to reach asia. I don't think Gunfighter told us anything, and I stand my conclusions given the information at the time, and I STILL believe that it is not a terrorist attack.

@SC,

Actually, the evidence I cited was the plane turning without communication about it. Also, I think the claim was "foul play," not terrorism. Hijacking surely falls in that category.

you have this thing where you always think I'm responding to you, when quite obviously I am responding to gunfighter.

Oh yeah? So it's an accident that you used the phrase "foul play crowd" that had first appeared in my post, I guess? I'm just paranoid?

You got it.

Wow. Even when I'm right on this forum, I'm still somehow wrong. Too many contrarians on here.

@semck what evidence? (I haven't been following the news). Is it just the plane turning? Is there more information now?

In gun's defense, I just checked the thread and all he ever said was foil play and hijack. Others mentioned terrorism but he never did.

Foul play..

@Gunfighter06, I think you are wrong in your last statement. Sometimes when you are right you are right.

Semck, you posted 4 days After I made that post. I didn't read what was written before or what I responded to. But of course, if you read my original post, it is quite obvious I am responding to gunfighter (who by the way is hardly right, as he quite obviously implied that the men with the passports caused this), I assumed that you were making the same points because you lumped yourself in with him. My post quite specifically discussed the prospect and unlikelihood that this was a terrorist attack.

So I was responding to Gunfighter (and I believed you) claiming the passport holders hijacked the plane, then you jumped in saying "actually I posted evidence saying that someone turned the plane without communication" which is an irrelevant response caused by you, as usual, believing everything I say is directed toward you.