@Tr, my reads so far have been rather poor, if you are town I am sorry that I am not doing as much of a job to help as I can. If I can make it out alive, I plan to do a lot of research and make reads that are more fitting, especially as the weekend is coming and I won't be so distracted.

@BB didn't someone make another analysis on your use of my 1st post as dumbtell? I stated back then that I thought the cop should not reveal on the first turn and asked who agreed with me. Why don't you even examine Yoyo having those dumb questions also on pg 1? Sadly I do agree with you, my death serves the most purpose right now.

guak: Espi and Jeff were labelled as scum, and BB dropped to practically NULL in your eyes. How are those not bigger changes than ND?

Espi (4): phil_a_s, Balki Bartokomous, ND, DeathLlama9,
guak (3): Lucland, , americaslacker, Trprado
TrPrado (3): Jeff Kuta, Espi, SaladinSmith
SaladinSmith (1): Yoyoyozo,
Balki Bartokomous (1): guak,

Not voted: bo_sox48

Damn, all I have to do right now is vote guak and we are tied again, which means someone else has to switch votes to me or guak and that risks losing guak.

Espi: If you're so afraid of voting for him, why bring that up? And your most recent reads list has him as scum, so where did that change enough for you to be afraid of him getting lynched?

@Tr: the changes you made are reactive. you changed ND to town because you were called out for reading him as scum. You reduced your certainty on the Balki read because you were called out for it. Other than that all your reads feel very NULLish, so yeah I think your 'new' list of reads is quite crappy and an offshoot of the first one.

DAY ONE OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT 4.0:

Espi (4): phil_a_s, Balki Bartokomous, ND, DeathLlama9
guak (3): Lucland, americaslacker, Trprado
TrPrado (3): Jeff Kuta, Espi, SaladinSmith
SaladinSmith (1): Yoyoyozo
Balki Bartokomous (1): guak

No Vote(1): bo_sox48

Currently ESPI is set to be lynched. The day ends in 1 hour.

You didn't read my reads list, yet you're saying it's so important? Both lists have ND as town.

@Tr I think I know the strategy guak had, lurking in the background, trying not to attract a lot of attention and then when least expected, and near end game, coming out and shouting his suspicious of Tr. I think that was mostly a ploy though to get BB to panic and let slip a tell. Also, he seems very experienced and I don't want the town to lose potentially great people. I only had him as slight scum as others were questioning his not posting. One point against him now, he did come in only after he was in one of the lead wagons.

##unvote Espi

Reviewing some evidence will vote again shortly.

No one is willing to switch to Balki after his scumslip. That is quite odd.

Back to Tr I guess. Last hour, time to consolidate. ##VOTE TrPrado. I will not change my vote unless a real wagon forms against Balki or we get some end of day shenanigans

And Tr is the lead vote now, followed by guak and myself. I might just make it out alive. Hopefully I am worth it.

@Tr I keep bringing it up because I feel it is a very important fact. I can very easily change my vote last minute which should be on everyones mind right now. Some people thing I will be an informative Lynch, others (namely guak) do not.

I assume this will mean SS will take his vote off me to get it back to a tie pretty soon.

After thinking about it some more I think Balki's slip on the previous page about working to earn town credit is very damning. I would encourage everyone to re-read it.

It seems from his remarks that his posts and analysis were designed to earn him 'town cred'. That is very, very, scummy.

##VOTE Balki

##VOTE Balki, glad to test this wagon out again

##VOTE Balki

Espi (3): phil_a_s, Balki Bartokomous, DeathLlama9
guak (3): Lucland, americaslacker, Trprado
Balki Bartokomous (3): ND, guak, Espi
TrPrado (2): Jeff Kuta, SaladinSmith
SaladinSmith (1): Yoyoyozo


No Vote(1): bo_sox48

I'm not going to be here at the deadline. I have tickets to go see Gabriel Iglesias tonight and he is way more important than any of you. Apologies. Here's what I have before then and my vote. I doubt I'll move it; I won't be able to read much on my phone.

I am reading through this discussion with Balki and I am struck at how my mind is changing. I don't see how you can effectively work for town reads. It's what I do when I'm mafia (and it never works, because I never seem to get town reads) and I don't think that earning town cred is a town thing to do. The only time that you need to worry about your credibility if you are town is when you are under fire, which is right now. Unfortunately, I'm not going to be here to see a more adequate response, and I'm not terribly satisfied that instead of defending yourself, you defaulted to going back to the Espi case that I'm not very confident in right now.

That line is a scum slip if I have ever seen one, even if you don't know what a scum slip is. I will say once again that "trying to earn town cred is not alignment indicative" is utter bullshit, at least the way you say you're doing it is.

##VOTE Balki

I hope the bandwagon keeps going after I'm gone. See you all after the deadline.

Or maybe you'll just tie it for SS.

Oh, wow, there's support now. I thought guak was the only one on him.

@bo, welcome back and have fun. I have not yet seen him in person but I imagine your night will be a blast.

Balki Bartokomous (4): ND, guak, Espi, bo_sox48
Espi (3): phil_a_s, Balki Bartokomous, DeathLlama9
guak (3): Lucland, americaslacker, Trprado
TrPrado (2): Jeff Kuta, SaladinSmith
SaladinSmith (1): Yoyoyozo

@bo, guak switched right as the official vote was posted to Tr as he felt his vote was useless, ND switched and I joined in to make the pressure felt. I am hoping that ND and guak are very good players as I am completely following their lead in this. With you joining in, I really hope I am making the right call.

I am way too uncertain about to lynch now. Lots of new stuff in the last few pages.

Espi: "I am completely following their lead in this." Will you be using this to distance yourself from responsibility if Balki happens to flip town?

Interesting to see that wagon take off, after so many townreads on me early.

Espi, with regard to your hopping on the bandwagon, in particular: after so many townreads of me, and so many statements that you think it's a good idea for you to be the first lynch, your fast move to this bandwagon is about as damning evidence against you that I have seen to date.

his posts and analysis were designed to earn him 'town cred'.

Waitwhat Balki confirm or deny and give reasons now now now

Espi, by all means, vote Balki, the scumslip is perfectly valid evidence, but sheeping really isn't too good of an idea. Vote Balki because he might be scum, not because someone else thinks he might be scum, especially if they're not even actually cleared as town. Sheeping can be valid, when you have no clue, and the person you're sheeping is confirmed town, but in all cases, it's lazy. It's also an extension of what you've been doing all phase - avoiding doing anything proactive yourself, following others leads.

@DL: He pretty much said they were designed to give him 'town cred' and he wanted 'town reads' you can see him referencing that in his post above yours.

@DL: he said so a couple of posts back. It is interesting how in his recent post he chooses to bring to attention that he was being widely townread earlier on

Ugh I want Balki now but Espi keeps digging that hole

I just went from no favorable lynches to two, which is something I guess