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wjessop (100 DX)
30 Aug 15 UTC
Live and Let Live
I was typing a brief response to the post below about being 'trans' when I refreshed and found that the thread was locked. It was locked with a really great post from Jmo, so thanks for that. The video itself wasn't really that funny or clever, and was laughing at not with, without any sense of awareness; but I take it that that video is a closed issue, so I just wanted to add:
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
28 Aug 15 UTC
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webDip YouTube Channel!
See inside for some exciting news!
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Yoyoyozo (65 D)
30 Aug 15 UTC
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Coming out as Trans Everything
This video just about sums up how I feel about transracial, transabled, and whatever else people come up with on Tumblr. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMUl6w1efXI
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
11 Aug 15 UTC
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MAFIA XI: A Whisper In My Ghost
As above, below.
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phil_a_s (0 DX)
13 Aug 15 UTC
Bo, I was so planning to look for differences in behavior between days 1 and 2. I didn't want to talk about it until halfway through night, but hey, mafia will probably coach each other anyway.

Can we lynch TrPrado just for that reads list? He literally has two scum and two town on his list and nothing else. I don't count triple light reads because they are obviously not meant to mean anything, and could be distributed more or less randomly. This, again, is why I didn't want to make a reads list. It would be utter shit, full of insecurity and NULL reads. But scum? Scum want to generate content, and don't really care all that much about quality. TrPrado's reads are a long post, and full of content, but none of it seems to hold any meaning.

I think guak is probably somewhat more likely to be town than TrPrado, though I certainly prefer Espi to both. Neither of the cases is particularly convincing.

I like the new DeathLlama, though I'm not entirely sure what the point of voting Lucland is. Otherwise, though, I'm seeing a real improvement in the style, it's a lot more proactive.

I know I promised a reads list later today, but I just went out with my grandparents, and probably won't have enough time to both compose a reads list and be active close to the deadline, so I'm going to leave the reads list for nighttime. I'll also have a lot more information by then, which will help.
guak (3381 D)
13 Aug 15 UTC
@Tr: I already mentioned why your reads are crappy, maybe you should read the evidence post I wrote supporting my case against you. It is all in there.

The short version is the following: you are manipulating information, you are writing your reads based on your interactions with players and not on facts, and most of your reads are hedging and lack any kind of reasoning or supporting evidence.
TrPrado (461 D)
13 Aug 15 UTC
Balki: Did it feel like I was actively trying to take attention off of Espi at the time? I was trying to consider possibilities, and the reasoning presented (better than your own, because again your case felt like it was based in a feedback loop) felt solid enough for a scum read.

Jeff: I stated I had a scum-read on Espi before this reads list and before he voted for me. I have been the strongest person saying guak is scum for a while. This isn't OMGUS.

1) The fact that you have a case on me is in itself reactive play. I found you as information-withholding and contradictory scum, so you are reacting to me by spitting fire and dumb accusations.
2) So you're saying you were joking around when you had a scum case against SS? This feels like a deflection, because your argument against SS was based on your actual game philosophy. And, to get straight, D1 ISN'T too early to accuse someone of tunneling? (And that you're my strongest scum read right now clearly has now bearing, yah?)
4) Whatever
guak (3381 D)
13 Aug 15 UTC
Oh, and @Balki: also, I know that I hadn't done anything by then either, but nobody was praising my participation at that point, so there is no way you can use that to get rid of that argument. It may sound hypocritical, but there is evidence to support why both cases are different. If somebody had been reading me as helpful at that point I would had immediately accused that person of buddying up and pursued as scum (I have done this in the past several times to good effect). Didn't you find it odd that someone would townread you so strongly based on something you had not done up until then? A townie should had noticed that and become suspicious there.
TrPrado (461 D)
13 Aug 15 UTC
Actually, guak, you didn't answer that. You called the recent one crappy with no real way of backing that up.
phil_a_s (0 DX)
13 Aug 15 UTC
The most recent one? I called that crappy, and I did back it up, if ever so slightly, so you could respond to me in the meantime if you like.
@guak, no. Look at my response. I list all the things I had done, which warranted townreads from other people too. I've worked hard to earn townreads from others, which I think is good for town (not alignment indicative, I know, you don't have to tell me).

But I do agree that TrPrado has done some buddying to me, as have many others. I happen to believe TrPrado is mafia, so I'm not dismissing your theory that he's tried to buddy with me to avoid suspicion or join wagons I start, but I do want to nip in the bud your theory that I'm on his mafia team.
TrPrado (461 D)
13 Aug 15 UTC
phil: "He literally has two scum and two town on his list and nothing else." and "This, again, is why I didn't want to make a reads list. It would be utter shit, full of insecurity and NULL reads" I believe that means you see 8 NULL reads, so why is it that my reads raise alarm bells for you?
TrPrado (461 D)
13 Aug 15 UTC
Balki: I've already discerned why your case is off, if you'd like to respond to that.
phil_a_s (0 DX)
13 Aug 15 UTC
TrPrado, because you bothered posting for every single one of those reads. I just don't see why on earth you would do that.
phil_a_s (0 DX)
13 Aug 15 UTC
Balki, you really shouldn't be working to earn townreads. You should be working to catch scum.
@TrPrado, please repeat your argument or give me a page cite. There's a lot going on here.
@Phil, I'm doing both, they're not mutually exclusive, and both are good for town.
ND (879 D)
13 Aug 15 UTC
Balki: "I've worked hard to earn townreads from others, which I think is good for town (not alignment indicative, I know, you don't have to tell me)."

-So you are working to get town cred? Working to impress others? Image important to you? In my experience, that is something mafia strive for. Possible scumslip here.
TrPrado (461 D)
13 Aug 15 UTC
phil: I don't see why not, really. Is there a reason I shouldn't do that?

BB: It's on page 20 near the bottom. There isn't much to it because there really wasn't much to your case against me.
guak (3381 D)
13 Aug 15 UTC
Huge scumslip from Balki right there!!!

##VOTE Balki
DeathLlama8 (514 D)
13 Aug 15 UTC
@BB - did you read the PE how-to-mafia?
phil_a_s (0 DX)
13 Aug 15 UTC
TrPrado, it wastes a lot of space, space which could be used to elaborate on things you do have an opinion on.
Espi (338 D)
13 Aug 15 UTC
Unofficial vote count.

Espi (4): phil_a_s, Balki Bartokomous, ND, SaladinSmith
guak (3): Lucland, , americaslacker, Trprado
TrPrado (2): Jeff Kuta, Espi
SaladinSmith (1): Yoyoyozo,
Lucland (1): DeathLlama9,
Balki Bartokomous (1): guak,

Not voted: bo_sox48
ND (879 D)
13 Aug 15 UTC
While it is a scumslip @guak in no way does it equal or top Espi's multiple game-spanning slips.
guak (3381 D)
13 Aug 15 UTC
@Tr: stop ignoring all of my unresponded posts by trying to make it seem like it is me not responding to you. I have already stated why your reads in general are crappy, I do not see what changed from one reads list to the other, but the fact that you want to give more importance to the more recent one after the first one was so heavily criticized in itself is scummy.

@everyone: I will only vote Balki or TrPrado for the rest of the day. At this point I think both are equally high in my scum list so I could go either way. I will try to be around by EoD so I can make sure I am voting for the one of the two that makes more sense, but I just want to make everyone know that I will not be voting Espi under any circumstances today.
Espi (338 D)
13 Aug 15 UTC
@guak, right now, it looks like I am going to die. I really wish I could justify my switching votes to you so that I don't die, but that seems to hurt the town more then help it, right?
guak (3381 D)
13 Aug 15 UTC
@ND: not in amount, but yes in graveness. Numerous scumslips are far less meaningful than a few grave ones. Remember that townies tend to make more scumslips than mafia because they are less careful with their posts. However, the few truly damning scumslips are the ones we should focus on. Only two players I have seen make numerous scumslips that were scum, also made the truly damning ones. I have yet to see a damning scumslip from Espi.
TrPrado (461 D)
13 Aug 15 UTC
Probably because it's been a while and more information has come up since page 8, so my opinions on a few people have changed.
SaladinSmith (100 D)
13 Aug 15 UTC
##VOTE TrPrado, to even things out. Someone else can break the tie. Still have no real reason to think that anyone with votes on them right now is mafia.
guak (3381 D)
13 Aug 15 UTC
@Espi: mafia is going to kill me tonight anyway, so do whatever you want. Still plenty of time to see if either Balki or Tr wagons pick up.
DeathLlama8 (514 D)
13 Aug 15 UTC
Christ Saladin, please actually scumhunt, you have an hour and a half left to get your opinion out to the world
ND (879 D)
13 Aug 15 UTC
@Guak: Espi's admission to buddying isn't a "grave" scumslip?
DeathLlama8 (514 D)
13 Aug 15 UTC
Looking back a bit, Saladin's lack of sharing his opinions on matters like who the scum are is a bit odd
phil_a_s (0 DX)
13 Aug 15 UTC
That's a word with a precise definition. Espi, what did you mean by buddying?

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JamesYanik (548 D)
29 Aug 15 UTC
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Update for Intro?
I've noticed in games people moving into a supply center, and then moving out before builds phase. I feel like there should be an update in the WebDip intro properly explaining how the seasons/phases work, because it seems like every newbie messes it up.
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backscratcher (459 D)
28 Aug 15 UTC
I need advice on Modern strategy for Germany.
What's the best strategy to use with Modern Germany as far as which nation to target first?
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A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
29 Aug 15 UTC
FTF Melbourne, Australia, 5th Sept
I *think* everyone this is relevant to already knows this, but we're having a game in Melbourne on the 5th Sept (next Saturday). Midday start, Charles Weston Hotel, Brunswick. PM me for details.
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backscratcher (459 D)
29 Aug 15 UTC
Looking for Seattle face to face
I am looking for any face to face players in and around the Seattle area.
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bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
28 Aug 15 UTC
Campfire Songs
Some of you are definitely not the people to ask, but I'm asking anyway... what are some good campfire/bonfire/whatever songs? The internet is really cliche on this top-priority issue in my life.
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
27 Aug 15 UTC
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Buying Coins
Buying a silver coin for my godson and trying to spend enough for free shipping. Any recommendations?
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SantaClausowitz (360 D)
28 Aug 15 UTC
How Fascist is it?
Apparently fascism comes in degrees. Let's ask, how fascist is it?
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
27 Aug 15 UTC
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What's your oldest finished game with unread messages?
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MarquisMark (326 D(G))
19 Aug 15 UTC
Top 5 Songs of the Week
Heard a new track on radio that you liked or an old one that you'd forgotten about? Got an ear-worm that you can't shake? Is there something that seems to be getting more plays on on your iTunes than others? What's on your speakers? Share them here.
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y2kjbk (4846 D(G))
27 Aug 15 UTC
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Why...
...do I see a ton of my past games with unread messages suddenly?
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Middelfart (1196 D)
27 Aug 15 UTC
ArmyandFleet - cancelled
I was just in a anon. game that got cancelled - after many, many turns. At last we (the big majority of players) succeeded in getting 1 player to vote cancel.
My question is, is there any way in getting to know who played in that game, now that it is cancelled?

PS: I was Russia.
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rojimy1123 (597 D)
27 Aug 15 UTC
good to be back
I am happy to say I'm back. 9 months without WebDip has been too long. But I'm armed with a brand spanking new Crackberry Classic and ready for some intense negotiations. Damn, it's been too long.
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Mapu (362 D)
27 Aug 15 UTC
A hundred envelopes
I'm getting notifications for most of my completed games. New feature or bug?
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Yonni (136 D(S))
27 Aug 15 UTC
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Message flags from old games?
I bunch of random old games just popped up with message flags. Weird. Dev team?
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wawlam59 (0 DX)
27 Aug 15 UTC
live game ads
50 D no ingame message 10minutes deadline
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=166612

welcome to join!
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
27 Aug 15 UTC
LA F2F this weekend!
http://www.meetup.com/Diplomacy-Players-of-Los-Angeles/events/224475410/

Follow the link or contact me for the LA contact if you're interested.
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
27 Aug 15 UTC
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How do I contact the mods?
I have a problem with my webDip points.
The site will not accept them.
Proof: imgur.com/bRp2qRJ
this is not trivial! imgur.com/8OSpLxy
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Tru Ninja (1016 D(S))
30 Jul 15 UTC
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Saddest, Most Twisted and Shocking Read So Far
Planned parenthood is selling aborted baby body parts and performing partial birth abortions to keep parts in tact:
http://www.lifenews.com/2015/07/28/3rd-shock-shock-video-catches-planned-parenthood-vice-president-selling-body-parts-of-aborted-babies/
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wildwolf (1214 D)
25 Aug 15 UTC
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Unlikely percentages or Bad Luck on Computer Draw
I am sure I am not the only one who suffered from this but as I drew Italy for the 4th time in 5 classic games this summer I thought I would hear about others with similar strings of playing the same country. I have only played about 10 classic games from the start since I joined and even that is well above average percentages.
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Austria needed
Far from desperate possition. gameID=166129
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4-8-15-16-23-42 (352 D)
26 Aug 15 UTC
New Game; Classic with Anonymous Messaging-- All Welcome
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=166586

Please join! Thanks.
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Octavious (2701 D)
26 Aug 15 UTC
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Playdip is like another country
They do things differently there.

One thing in particular I have found rather disturbing, and I'd be interested in hearing what the rest of you think about it.
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Maniac (184 D(B))
26 Aug 15 UTC
Return of Winnie-the-Pooh
Winnie-the-Pooh aka Pooh Bear has been residing with some of his friends in New York Public Library for sometime now, only making rare visits back to the UK. Could I ask all my American friends to do all they can to ensure their release from captivity.
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Devonian (1005 D)
20 Aug 15 UTC
There are openings in the vdip 1v1 ladder tournament
See rules and signup instructions here:

http://www.vdiplomacy.com/forum.php?threadID=60990&page-thread=1#threadPager
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
23 Aug 15 UTC
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webDip F2F Tournament LIVE BLOG
I'm not in a game so FUCK IT WE'LL DO IT LIVE!
gameID=166469
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A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
25 Aug 15 UTC
Site updates and thanks
See inside!
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