I have basically lost interest in this game with cristmass break and the form breaks. Don’t lynch me, you will hit town again and will most likely subsequently loose. I’m sorry I’m not more invested.

Is anyone able to answer my query?

##vote dargorygel, he is using shit logic. Dude, you've been lurking, the person before you was lurking so hard he got replaced. You don't get to accuse other people for lurking as being scum indicative. If none of you want to vote fox, Dar is the next best bet. I refuse to believe reedeer is scum, it doesn't add up. Even if reedeer does lurk independent of his role, the person he replaced (Mamalama) was lurking so hard they got replaced. The person in that slot has chronically not given a fuck the whole game, and that is extremely VT indicative to me. The difference with dar/chaqa is that their logic hasn't added up all game and I have had bad feelings about them all game, only subsiding because chaqa got replaced for a bit. Plus, Vecna wanted him lynched above anyone else if flum flipped town, so it is a great bet as he know vecna was town now.

I think there is a strong chance reedeer is being a scum scapegoat because they thought he wouldn't be around much and wouldn't defend himself, so he'd be the easiest mislynch. This implicates Vash and Dar.

Prado, you might be the only person I even halfway trust in the game still. What is your opinion on Dar? Also what are the chances that Vash is scum, given that he is getting almost no scrutiny here at all?

I’m not sure Vash would make that push on yavuz unless they were both scum.

VOTE COUNT 8.1

Reedeer1(2) - VashtaNeurotic, Dargorygel
Dargorygel(1) - SpiritoftheRadio
SpiritoftheRadio(1) - TrPrado

Currently REEDEER1 is set to be lynched.

You have 9 hours and 30 minutes remaining in Day 8.

Foxcastle, guak, and reedeer1 need to make a valid vote before the phase ends.

Reedeer, are you going to vote? Because if we lynch town and you get mod killed (and are town, which Spirit makes some good points that you probably are), we still lose.

I am traveling all day from the middle of nowhere, and if I'm lucky I will be on a plane EOD. I'll try to keep up on my phone and look at previous days, and will make a vote before the deadline, though.

Prado... are you talking about moving from one country, overseas, to another? The delay is shipping your stuff. It usually needs to be done by sea. When I moved to (and from) Australia, it took nearly a month. But that was twenty years ago.

Also... I am finding Spirit more questionable than I did before. Maybe because he is voting for the one person remaining that i KNOW isn't scum. But "you don't use the same reasoning I do" isn't good scum indicative, imo. Why are you voting for him?

About Reedeer. I am still convinced that he is scum.

Fox... why not vote now?

Because I at least want to try to look at previous days and make a reasonable guess, and I'll have some airport time to do that. TrPrado and Vashta are Town as far as I'm concerned. Spirit could be scum but that's just a cumulative reaction without evidence. You, Reedeer, and Guak are lurky, and there are reasonable scum reads there without strong countervailing Town indicators—we should have cleared that out a while ago, but... too late.

I'm still voting dargorygel, I don't know if he was addressing me in the post he made questioning me. I think he keeps referring to himself as he, and makes it look like I'm voting for someone else, idk what he's on about honestly.

Anyway, I did brief rereads on all the townies that have died since day 2, and got the highlights of their reads on their last day that you can all look over and help you make a decision, for what they are all worth.

Flum Night 6
"If reedeer lurks another day it's time to lynch him as well.
I'd lynch Vecna, Fox, reedeer. If the game isnt over by then, consider everyone but probably lynch guak.
(Not that reads are followed lol)
If I die remember to not forget about fox. He's totally trying to slide by until we're out of lynches. Just at the least consider him if we're in lylo.
And reread my dialogue with Vecna and figure out what was up with him eod.

[earlier post]
My tier list of towniness is
Vash, Prado
Spirit
Dargorygel
Guak
--------------------- line of lynching
Reedeer
Vecna, Foxcastle"

Vecna D7

"if he [flum] dies as can be expected, lynch fucking dargorygel. if it flips scum, lynch prado and guak afterwards. then we win. if darg flips town, too bad, you fuckibg deserve to loose for wastibg all our mislynches on people that actually gave a shit this game.

if you still dont see it, check dargs obvious shitreads. check chaqas play. not reading the game yet miraculoysly finding scum day1."

Snowy D6
[said he stopped giving a shit, and said his “unreliable opinion is that bozo/guak/spirit (yes, I’m still on spirit)” are scum, and then said he’d sheep flum on vecna and then voted reedeer for apparent lulz]

Bozo D6
[Pushed a flum/guak scum team, townread chaqa for getting replaced. Also suspected Prado and Vash for connections to flum]
"primary scum suspect:
Fluminator

secondary scum suspects, in order:
Vecna
yavuzovic
guak

town reads, from least confident to most confident:
Vashta
reedeer
TrPrado
Spirit
dargorygel
Foxcastle
snowy, rdrivera"

Yav D5
[really hard to discern, only person he voted or suspected the day he died that is still alive is reedeer]

Rdr N4
Final words: “Lynch Reedeer please and then lynch Prado, his defense of Yav isn't believable, looks like someone they know for sure he is town.”

Uber D4
"My reads:

Chaqa/dargorygel: Null. He is a lurker, like me, that is not scum indicative.

Foxcastle: Lean town. He is a bit of a lurker, but when he does weigh in his posts seem townie.

guak: Null. Lurker.

reedeer1: Null. Lurker.

TrPrado: Scum. He feels, to me at least, a lot like ghug, no real counter arguments, kind of bristly, that kind of thing. His voting record is good though, always ending on scum. But, his ferocity in defending Yavuz seems a little much, especially if Yav is scum.

SpiritoftheRadio: Town. There is no way that he would bus ghug and demon that much.

VastaNeurotic: Lean town. He is trying to make arguments and engaging in the game.

[edited out the dead reads]
My scum team is Yav and Tr."

Damian D4
[Only people he suspected in last day were flum and uber]

Hellonic Riot D3
[Shot unexpectedly and didn’t give clear reads on currently alive players before death or in the day or so proceeding it]

Maniac d3
“Scum [are], Demon, Foxcastle, Ghug and one of Bozo, Vash, Chaqa”

BB EON2
"3. Chaqa[/dargoygel] - Town. He was a byron voter and I think his tone lacks an agenda.

4. sevenbrokenbricks/Prado- town but bizarre and naughty. only is scum if guak is scum. Theres a chance hes just vt and crazy.

6. Foxcastle - town. Improved alot
Do not lynch fox castle. Theyre a player a bit nervous to make moves. They are learning and we should let him spread his wings and try.

12. VashtaNeurotic - Very Town

15. MamaLama[/Reedeer] - TOWN

23. SpiritoftheRadio - slight scum. Hes not doing jack shit. But I could see him being a PR or just chillin out this game.

24. Guak - slight scum could be hooker. Hes laying low and taking usual bizarre ass stances on PR claims. But its guak. Hes not really stood out so far"
[edited out dead reads]

THREE HOURS REMAIN in DAY 8

Foxcastle, guak, and Reedeer1 must make a valid vote before the phase ends.

Oh boy....

Call GM: If we vote to end before EoD by majority vote, will it prevent anyone from being modkilled for not voting that day?

Yes, but I would rather the game be over. We could just no lynch and hope a mafia is in the group of three. But that implies none will show up

GM NOTE:

If the day ends early due to a hammer vote, there are no sanctions for non-voters.

Fox said he'd vote, but my guess is that the people not participating are VT, so I'm not considering that strategy, Vash. I get wanting the game to be over, but a no lynch is dumb, even ridiculous to consider. Just vote to end on someone, preferably dargorygel if you want the game to end sooner.

I do think that if we want town to win, we should end the day early. Given that there are potentially two scum that are around, they will prevent this from happening if they want to. Still, it is our best shot so ##end

Still requires us to have a majority on the same player. i.e 4 votes.

so vote with me vash, prado and fox will see reason and vote with us

Or you could vote with me

Do you have a good reason for voting ree over dar? I have given my reasons for thinking the ree lynch is dumb and just an easy mislynch. You said earlier:
"Like Remember what I said about Day 2, unless you believe all the mafia were gonna bus the remaining ones are in Me, Chaqa and Spirit. But there is an addendum, because the person reedeer replaced was not around that day. So that could explain it."
So it should be me or dar you vote for, the easiest and simplest explanation for why mamalama/reedeer didn't vote that day was because they gave zero fucks, scum are much less likely to give zero fucks, surely you must know this.

##VOTE DARG

Do you believe in the end vote prado?

As someone who’s been end-hammered at LyLo losing the game, I’m gonna go with probably not.

VOTE COUNT 8.2

Reedeer1(2) - VashtaNeurotic, Dargorygel
Dargorygel(2) - SpiritoftheRadio(END), TrPrado

Currently NOBODY is set to be lynched.

You have 2 hours and 30 minutes remaining in Day 8.
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Foxcastle, guak, and Reedeer1 need to make a valid vote before the phase ends. There will be no replacements at this late stage and it is unfortunately likely that non-participants will be modkilled.

we aren't in lylo... we stand to lose two players who are most likely towny due to their inactivity and then be forced into lylo one lynch earlier.

Yeah so....if we don't and fox better show up

Yeah, no. I want reedeer to die. I am not voting to end

I refuse to believe both scum are in the inactive players and that's the only way town wins in this. Even if one of them is scum, we just go into lylo tomorrow instead of the next day with one less lynch's worth of information.