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2ndWhiteLine (2611

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Gunboat for Idiots

Anybody interested in another idiot's game?

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Pretty good satire from Reddit

Explain the gay marriage debate like I'm an alien whose race has seven genders

http://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeIAmA/comments/17u14o/explain_the_gay_marriage_debate_like_im_an_alien/c88ysj6

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Borderline Movies

List films you're not sure if they land on the happy side of par...or just barely fail...or just hit the line...Mine's "Bladerunner"--I STILL can't tell if that's the best bad movie or worst good movie I've ever seen...it has some of the best stylistic and atmospheric elements of any even partially-action film I've seen...but even with the PDK book's ideas and the VK test...so DULL, and plodding, with a plot heavier on conceptualization than payoff, until the very, very end...I dunno.

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1 More Player Needed - 3 hours to go (not a Live game)

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John Brown was the only moral person in antebellum America

Discuss.

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09 Feb 13 UTC

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Ghost Rating Viewer

Last week Alderian sent me all of the CSV files so I've now completed the viewer. Here's a link to d/l it
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ck3uiw7s4m5fxk8/GR.xlsm

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GATTACA was a future-tense docudrama.

"We were appalled when we found out," says Brown, who's a registered nurse. "Why do they need to store my baby's DNA indefinitely? Something on there could affect her ability to get a job later on, or get health insurance."

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/02/04/baby.dna.government/?hpt=C1

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09 Feb 13 UTC

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Overall results by country

Does anyone know where or how to look for overall results of Dip games by varient (full press vs. gunboat) and country? Just looking for some data.

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08 Feb 13 UTC

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best android apps...

suggestions please.

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01 Feb 13 UTC

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Acronym Assistance

Hey there are a bunch of acronyms used on this forum about the game that I haven't been able to figure out. I did a search and couldn't find them anywhere. Does anyone have a list?

Specifically, not sure what NMR, CD and PBM are.

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Possible Cheating Report

There's a game with 6 players with 2 missed phases each as of Fall 1902. All have 95

. 1 player is playing on. Seems phishy. Where do I report?

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I love mute thread!

Since I have been gone for 2 years, many things have changed. The thing that I LOVE is the option to mute threads. Not that everything the people on this site say isn't fascinating, but it sure helps me clean up things and get to the threads that I am really interested in. Whoever came up with this idea...+1.

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09 Feb 13 UTC

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Who likes Western Canada?

gameID=109545, replacement needed.

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The Cat

Saw the word "monopoly" going around in another thread and thought about this.... http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/02/06/monopoly_token_contest_game_makers_announce_a_cat_will_replace_the_iron.html

The iron is gone, folks... long live the money bag. That's my only piece.

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Lost a player due to stupidity

I know that you are not supposed to talk about an anonymous game, but gameID=109945 is just starting S1902 and we lost Austria to being a multi. Looking for a replacement. Please jump in. Thanks.

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I don't like gunboats

I'm playing my first GB game and I don't like it. I don't like not being able to congratulate my ally on a good move. I don't like not being able to duck with my enemy. I don't like seeing a briliant move that requires cooperation and not being able to tell my potential cooperator about it, so that he doesn't bounce me. I do not like it Sam I Am, I do not like GB and ham.

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February Ghost Ratings

https://sites.google.com/site/phpdiplomacytournaments/theghost-ratingslist
https://sites.google.com/site/phpdiplomacytournaments/theghost-ratingslist/ghost-ratings-by-category

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Prove you can do full press.

NEW GAME: "When Gunboaters Have To Lie"
gameID=110173

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09 Feb 13 UTC

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Best house in the neighborhood! Pac russia, 29 SCs!!!!! Game id = 101223

Join now!

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Tom Bombadil (4023

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04 Feb 13 UTC

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2 New Public Press Games!

See inside for all the goodies.

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08 Feb 13 UTC

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I have not played in a while and saw this guy was a first timer, Looking for newbies.

http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=110122

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08 Feb 13 UTC

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Tourney - 2 rounds of 7 x @101 (or lower) Simultaneous WTA Gunboat

Rules inside

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07 Feb 13 UTC

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GR vs. In-game Messages

Just curious. Post your in-game messages average (doing your best to account for gunboat, Wilson, etc) and your January WTA Classic GR.

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abgemacht (1076 )
07 Feb 13 UTC

"And I spelled my name wrong."

And can't tell the difference between a period and a comma. apparently,

StackelbergFollower (1463 )
07 Feb 13 UTC

I think abge is right. On the first day of an FP game, I will send a multiple of 7 messages. That will usually not happen in the average 1908 or 1912.

The other key variable we're missing is message quality. My theory is that it is the quality of your early-game messages that most determine how well you do, and I guess most would agree.

But it might be true that players who send high quality messages also tend to send more messages... so we're probably getting at something informative here.

slyster (3934 )
07 Feb 13 UTC

I have 1 gunboat played and two games that were drawed in 1902. So the total would be 266 per game played.

MM......................1 323 msg/game
slyster..................5 266 msg/game
Tom.....................9 124 msg/game
Yonni.................10 363 msg/game
ghug..................,17 97 msg/game
goldfinger...........24 202 msg/game
Stackel...............28 133 msg/game
Alderian..............29 144 msg/game
abge...................44 170 msg/game
KingRishard........70 55 msg/game
Gen. Lee...........121 55 msg/game

StackelbergFollower (1463 )
07 Feb 13 UTC

I'm not sure I understand how the GR site is counting my games. On the WTA Peak, it says I've only got 6 games, which gives me the implausible figure of 621 messages per game.

But on the peak gunboat GR, it says I've got 39 games, so I guess that's 39 gunboats. My profile says I've finished 67 games, leaving 28 press games. Does this mean that 22 of my press games have been PPSC or public press, since only 6 are in the peak WTA ratings?

I haven't even been here that long and I have no idea what games I've played...

LanGaidin (1509 )
07 Feb 13 UTC

MM......................1 323 msg/game
slyster..................5 266 msg/game
LanGaidin...........6 195 msg/game
Tom.....................9 124 msg/game
Yonni.................10 363 msg/game
ghug..................,17 97 msg/game
goldfinger...........24 202 msg/game
Stackel...............28 133 msg/game
Alderian..............29 144 msg/game
abge...................44 170 msg/game
KingRishard........70 55 msg/game
Gen. Lee...........121 55 msg/game

LanGaidin (1509 )
07 Feb 13 UTC

That number (i.e. 195 msg/game) is admittedly lower if I take out the random inane comments made. I cannot in all honestly claim every message is the paragon of diplomatic communications.

Yonni (136 )
07 Feb 13 UTC
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I don't like this game anymore. Makes me feel like I need spend less time here...

goldfinger0303 (3157 )
07 Feb 13 UTC
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Yeah, look at tom. Same results, but a third of the effort. Now that's efficiency!

ghug (5068 )
07 Feb 13 UTC

I removed all of the early draws not counted in GR (and that pesky comma). It's still low, but at least a bit better.

MM......................1 323 msg/game
slyster..................5 266 msg/game
LanGaidin...........6 195 msg/game
Tom.....................9 124 msg/game
Yonni.................10 363 msg/game
ghug..................17 123 msg/game
goldfinger...........24 202 msg/game
Stackel...............28 133 msg/game
Alderian..............29 144 msg/game
abge...................44 170 msg/game
KingRishard........70 55 msg/game
Gen. Lee...........121 55 msg/game

slyster (3934 )
07 Feb 13 UTC

Side note: I have 3 games with MadMarx, which ups my message by at least a 100 since he talks like a MadMan.

Get those three games away and my average becomes wayyyyyyyyy lower! = )

Yonni (136 )
07 Feb 13 UTC

So.... I played way more PPSC than I originally thought. I went through my games and I think in actually at about 233/game. Way more reasonable.

abgemacht (1076 )
07 Feb 13 UTC

MM......................1 323 msg/game
slyster..................5 266 msg/game
LanGaidin...........6 195 msg/game
Tom.....................9 124 msg/game
Yonni.................10 233 msg/game
ghug..................17 123 msg/game
goldfinger...........24 202 msg/game
Stackel...............28 133 msg/game
Alderian..............29 144 msg/game
abge...................44 170 msg/game
KingRishard........70 55 msg/game
Gen. Lee...........121 55 msg/game

StackelbergFollower (1463 )
07 Feb 13 UTC

Does the message count in our profile include global messages?

abgemacht (1076 )
07 Feb 13 UTC

I believe so, yes.

Gen. Lee (7588 )
07 Feb 13 UTC

yes, most are live over half i believe, and over half are gunboats. Don't know that you can really compare live Full-press(whether PPSC or WTA) with non-live.

Mapu (362 )
07 Feb 13 UTC

MM......................1 323 msg/game
slyster..................5 266 msg/game
LanGaidin...........6 195 msg/game
Tom.....................9 124 msg/game
Yonni.................10 233 msg/game
ghug..................17 123 msg/game
goldfinger...........24 202 msg/game
Stackel...............28 133 msg/game
Alderian..............29 144 msg/game
abge...................44 170 msg/game
KingRishard........70 55 msg/game
Mapu....................87 149 msg/game
Gen. Lee...........121 55 msg/game

abgemacht (1076 )
08 Feb 13 UTC

Anyone else interested in sharing? 13

really isn't enough to draw any conclusions.

The Hanged Man (4160 )
08 Feb 13 UTC

Between 32 full press and 2 public press games, I had 8211 messages. I don't know how to differentiate the two, so 8211 / 34 = 241.5. GR7

abgemacht (1076 )
08 Feb 13 UTC

MM......................1 323 msg/game
slyster..................5 266 msg/game
LanGaidin...........6 195 msg/game
Hanged...............7 241 msg/game
Tom.....................9 124 msg/game
Yonni.................10 233 msg/game
ghug..................17 123 msg/game
goldfinger...........24 202 msg/game
Stackel...............28 133 msg/game
Alderian..............29 144 msg/game
abge...................44 170 msg/game
KingRishard........70 55 msg/game
Mapu....................87 149 msg/game
Gen. Lee...........121 55 msg/game

uclabb (589 )
08 Feb 13 UTC

15192/ (105 - 40 gunboat games - 1 (my first game on the site when I just picked up a CD so that I could have a way to get to a friend's profile) = 237 msg/game.

I think that these numbers are as much about the kind of games you play as anything else, though. For example, in my most recent live game I only sent 127 messages, but in my most recent full press game, I sent 841 messages. That one was a bit unusual, but I think the point stands.

abgemacht (1076 )
08 Feb 13 UTC

@uclabb

Yeah, I understand. I'm not expecting to halve my GR by doubling my press. But, in a game like Diplomacy, this is one of the few objective data sets we can collect. What I'd really like to see is average length of post; unfortunately, the site doesn't collect that info.

abgemacht (1076 )
08 Feb 13 UTC

MM......................1 323 msg/game
slyster..................5 266 msg/game
LanGaidin...........6 195 msg/game
Hanged...............7 241 msg/game
Tom.....................9 124 msg/game
Yonni.................10 233 msg/game
uclabb...............14 237 msg/game
ghug..................17 123 msg/game
goldfinger...........24 202 msg/game
Stackel...............28 133 msg/game
Alderian..............29 144 msg/game
abge...................44 170 msg/game
KingRishard........70 55 msg/game
Mapu....................87 149 msg/game
Gen. Lee...........121 55 msg/game

ghug (5068 )
08 Feb 13 UTC

I think that uclabb is right. I'll also add that any correlation can probably be explained by saying that they're both a function of the people you play. Back when I was getting started and playing weaker competition in low-pot PPSC games, I found that people stopped sending messages within a few years, and when that happens nobody's realistically going to send more than one message per person per phase, whereas in a high quality full press game with talkative people like MM, slyster, uclabb, and Yonni (I list those names because they have the highest message counts), you're going to end up talking a lot more to people every turn.

Lando Calrissian (100 )
08 Feb 13 UTC

I wish, I wish this website could give me stats like this.

Yonni (136 )
08 Feb 13 UTC

I'm sure Alderian could nudge Kestas to include messages/game in the next data drop. We could so some fun things with that.

AviF (726 )
08 Feb 13 UTC

I've played five games with press (one was public press which I don't know how to discount and one is not done yet but almost done) and I have sent 1471 messages so that averages to 294.2 messages/game. And my GR in January was 131)

MM......................1 323 msg/game
slyster..................5 266 msg/game
LanGaidin...........6 195 msg/game
Hanged...............7 241 msg/game
Tom.....................9 124 msg/game
Yonni.................10 233 msg/game
uclabb...............14 237 msg/game
ghug..................17 123 msg/game
goldfinger...........24 202 msg/game
Stackel...............28 133 msg/game
Alderian..............29 144 msg/game
abge...................44 170 msg/game
KingRishard........70 55 msg/game
Mapu....................87 149 msg/game
Gen. Lee...........121 55 msg/game
AviF...................131 294.2 msg/game

Tasnica (3366 )
08 Feb 13 UTC

So, my January WTA Classic GR is 8th. I have completed 29 Press games (5 of those were Public Press), and send a total of 7349 messages. That comes out to 253 messages per game.

MM......................1 323 msg/game
slyster..................5 266 msg/game
LanGaidin...........6 195 msg/game
Hanged...............7 241 msg/game
Tasnica................8 253 msg/game
Tom.....................9 124 msg/game
Yonni.................10 233 msg/game
uclabb...............14 237 msg/game
ghug..................17 123 msg/game
goldfinger...........24 202 msg/game
Stackel...............28 133 msg/game
Alderian..............29 144 msg/game
abge...................44 170 msg/game
KingRishard........70 55 msg/game
Mapu....................87 149 msg/game
Gen. Lee...........121 55 msg/game

yebellz (729 )
08 Feb 13 UTC

The vast majority of my games are gunboats, but out of the 14 full press games that I've played, it's about 140 msgs/game.

Unfortunately, I'm not listed in the Jan WTA GR. I guess the last of my whopping 5 WTA games wasn't recent enough.

Lando Calrissian (100 )
08 Feb 13 UTC

I subtracted my gunboat games from my total per jan GR and got 113 per game.

I really wish that I could know what I have in non-live games.

AviF (726 )
08 Feb 13 UTC

It would be nice if it said somewhere how many messages you sent in a single game.

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And now, we will discuss the Incredible power of George Soros.

George Soros is arguably one of the most powerful men in America. He has built dozens of organizations, has handpicked the Obama team, and is funding the DNC, the Media, and a bunch of other stuff.

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Double Murderer is LAPD Whistleblower?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/06/christopher-dorner-lapd-officer_n_2635783.html
His manifesto is fascinating. Read it while you still can:
http://content.clearchannel.com/cc-common/mlib/616/02/616_1360213161.pdf

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Best browser for webdip on Macs

I am running OSX Lion on several macs in my house and continuously drop connection to the web dip server. I go to refresh a page or move to another and I just watch the pinwheel spin and eventually tell me that Google Chrome cannot connect to the server. I have tried both Safari and Firefox with no better results. Is this a browser problem, or do I have to change some settings? Should I change browsers? Help!

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Free exchange, private property and justice?

I was just interested in arguments (and good places - books/authors/economists) that would support the idea that a system that insists on the primacy of free exchange and private property can be just, if anyone has any...

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Letters of Marque and Reprisal - Modern American usage?

Article 1 Section 8 of the US Constitution gives Congress the power to issue letters of marque and reprisal. Originally intended as a means for legally combating pirates with privateers, discuss the plausibility of using this old power to legally fight (and kill) certain high value terrorists (who may be American citizens) with military force

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Do Advertisements Reflect or Influence the Culture?

Advertisements (commercialized propaganda) are often criticized for portraying things in certain ways. The first thing that comes to my mind are cigarette ads. But shouldn't a financially aware institution conform to the cultural mindset in order to maximize profit? Could it be that everyone in the United States is a hypocrite?

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Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist Parry?

It seems that many people here have ideas that lean toward Communism. (Not me--for the record I am a strong free market Capitalist.). So is any one here willing to admit that they are Communists?

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