So for my Germany Fall move, was taking Holland too non-idiotic? I had fun convoying back to Kiel.

2WL, you should clarify a bit. Last time, we just weren't allowed to use any of the 10 most common openings in the spring, and there were no limits on fall moves. If you want more specific rules, we need them.

Yeah, based on the link from the last game, players were clearly allowed to go for builds by the fall. Russia clearly took it too far, but some clarity might help so we're all on the same page this time.

I actually forgot about not using the 10 most common openings. And you're right ghug, not clarifying rules enough was my fault. Consulting the opening list will make things a bit easier. I'll get new invites out shortly.

For the new game, please keep in mind:

- Opening moves should not include any of the top ten most common openings. For reference, consult your country at Vaftstats (http://draugnar.com/vaftstats/openings/gunboats.html)

- 1901 builds are fine, so as a result, fall moves can be as logical or illogical as you want.

Again, sorry about the confusion. Totally my fault, but at least I'll remember to clarify items like this next time I put together a game.

gameID=110070

Same password as last time.

so you really you dont even have to make bad moves, just not top 10 openings...

Bad moves make it more fun. Also, if a set of opening moves aren't in the top 10, they're pretty bad...

btw Italy, I'm a little disappointed you didn't want to try a Austria/Italy lepanto after taking back the ionian. I didn't expect you to, but still.

Russia can get away with a not-top-10 opening and still open pretty standard by just ordering StP-Fin instead of StP-GoB, since only 1/10 top 10 Russia openings there order StP-Fin instead of StP-GoB. Not that I'm trying to compromise the concept, just noting that the restriction is a lot more consequential for some countries than others.

btw I busted out laughing when i saw Englands opening. well done.

how about you cant make a move for an individual unit that is in any of the top 10, therefore St.Pete has to either stay still or go to livonia.

if you need a player, I would be interested in joining. I promise to make the dumbest move at the beginning.

I think that's a terrible idea, given that no units can move to ten different spaces on the first turn. I think that it should just come down to common sense: do something interesting, different, and no SC oriented.

Top 10 moves for kiel and all denmark or holland, no need for 10 options.

First, "and" and "are" are different words.

Second, you could have clarified that you meant that each unit can not move in a way represented in the 10 most common movesets, because you phrased it like you were separating each unit entirely in the process and then drew a conclusion that made no sense.

Third, it's still a bad idea, because it limits some units completely and because it adds too much of a limit on all ideas.

No limitations other than common sense.

ok, let's try it out again. I'll do my best to be more unexpected :-)

fuckghug

Oh wait, you know what... I think there should be a space there, please confirm.

fuck ghug

No space

#fuckghug

Bump, need one more. If the remaining player doesn't join soon, I'll open it up to first come first serve tomorrow.

Go ahead, 2WL. I am declining to join this restart. Don't really appreciate the sportsmanship (or lack thereof) of the first try. I'll join the third time you do this. Maybe vaft and PE will be back by then.

I miss Vaftrudner :(

No problem dub, thanks for the heads up.

Game link (and rules) are above for anyone interested, password is fuckghug

dub, Russia didn't really break the rules or anything. Plenty of people got builds in the first one, and Russia here can't have moved expecting two, given Rumania's occupation. I don't even really get why we cancelled.

I joined the link that was in this thread... I hope that's okay?

Bumb, 10 hours left, no first turn NMRs!

Excellent first turn moves. Always nice to see the rarely played "Apulian Shuffle" and the lesser known "Clydesian Blitz"

I'm a big fan of the "Gasconian Skirmish" as well. Not as much the "Armenian Genocide" though.

Also, just to confirm, there are no more move restrictions, correct?