^i see you conveniently forgot to add the capitals.

I'm from indy, the only thing we can complain abotu is one bad colts season after a long time of success. But the Pacers are rockin it so its all good.

I don't think any worst sports city could be worst than Buffalo.

In the 90s we went 0-4 in the Super Bowls, sometimes as bad as 52-14.

At least you made it to super bowls...
The leafs haven't made it to a Stanley Cup finals since probable before you parents were born.

I'm from Toronto and I don't think we're that bad. Argos have won a Gray Cup pretty recently, and are usually one of the better teams in the league. Jays are always competitive and have one two world series in the last 20 years. Leafs and Raptors aren't great but our city is still nowhere near as bad as Cleveland or Buffalo. We also don't have a defining gut-wrenching moment like Norwood's wide right or Lebron's decision.

You guys should all watch the Vincent Gallo movie "Buffalo 66," by the way.

We came one play short in the 90s...

Frank, what about the Gretzky issue? That is pretty fucking defining for me anyway. That series i about the first memories I have of watching hockey.

But, Frank, how old were you when the Jays won?

What if will limit it to worst sports city since 2000

forbes actually put out a list of the worst sports cities i believe Seattle was placed first this year. Which i disagree with, they don't even consider the MLS. Sounders all the way. But really the Seahawks are on the up and up and the mariners aren;t the worst thing in baseball. Its just a shame about the sonics

Wait, did someone say the Canadiens are good?

They're square at the bottom of the Eastern Conference.

oh and this may not be an entire failure of a city (bulls, blackhawks etc) but i think the award for worst team to be a fan of goes to the Cubs...

I was young when the Jays won, but I remember the 93 series pretty well. Even since 2000, we've won a Gray Cup, had the best dunker of all time, and had the best pitcher of this era.

Lando, I dont remember the Gretzky issue at all but I've never been much of a hockey fan.

Had the best dunker of all time who also happened to be a giant douche bag.

Besides, fuck the CFL.

Does suffering through one Bills 'home' game every year help our case?

Conference finals of the 93 Stanely cup.

LA Kings vs Toronto Maple Leafs
Leafs are leading 3-2 in the series. Game is tied at 3 in which Wayne Gretzky (Best player in the world at the time) cuts open Doug Gilmour's face with his stick.

According to the rules of Hockey, any contact with a players stick and an opponents face is 2 minutes, if it draws blood its 5. This drew blood, but because it was Wayne Gretzky who did it, the refs go easy on him.

2 minutes later he outplays the entire Toronto team and scores the goal, this being in over time.

We go back to LA for game 7 and of course loose. However if Gretzky was in box for those 5 minutes the LA couldn't do shit. We would have won on gone on to the stanely cup, which would have been against the Habs, a team we beat every time we met that season...

The 93 cup should have been ours, if it wasn't for the refs choosing to put the MVP ahead of the rules.

I know it's blasphemy to say, but it would have taken a hell of a lot to beat Patrick Roy even if we had made the cup.

Kerry Fraser was the referee who missed the Gretzky high stick. He admits to blowing the call, but stresses that he did not see it.

The best player in hockey, at that time, was either Doug Gilmour of the Maple Leafs or Sergei Fedorov of the Red Wings, but not Gretzky.

Back to back World Series victories and the second most Stanley Cup championships(after Montreal) take Toronto out of the "worst sports city" argument.

But Mapleleaf, you're of a different generation. You have to understand the frustration that us younger guys would have.

Hey, at least you guys don't have that crazy ass ball-hog Kobe Bryant on your team. Even with as many championships as they've won, it's still agony watching the Lakers lose 21-point leads to scrubs like the Wizards, or the Pistons the other night.

Aw, boohoo. I've won championship after championship but I don't like how it's done.

maybe hsitorically speaking toronto may have won cahmpionships. but if we are talking about the crap cities of sports today then toronto, cleveland and buffalo

Haha are you really complaining about Kobe Bryant? One of the best players of all time who has helped/led you to five championships? I'm sorry, I really hate the Lakers, and I hate Kobe as a person, but I have nothing but respect for him as a player.

80% of the time, he's one of the greatest that's ever lived. But there's plenty of time where Kobe plays the game 1 on 5, and they lose games in the most painful possible ways. I.e. losing a 21 point lead to the lottery-bound Washington Wizards.

And I think Kansas City has to be up there. I guess Sporting KC/Wizards are somewhat decent, but nothing spectacular. And having watched the Royals and the Chiefs for the past ten years, they are both awful sports organizations. Even the Chiefs division championship only occurred because they played the easiest schedule in the history of the NFL. Also, Kansas City has built an awesome arena, but can't get any NHL or NBA teams to enter town since our teams left in the seventies.

As for Kobe playing one-on-five, you're right, I'd say there are times he gets selfish, but one man can't blow a twenty-one point lead. Not to mention the fact, yet again, that he has won five championships for LA. Nothing really to complain about there.

Obviously, almost anyone would take the Laker's record of championships, and particularly playoff appearances in the last 30 years or so, over their team. Except Boston of course.

San Diego is a fun one because while the Padres and Chargers take turns at either abjectly sucking or choking at the worst possible times, and they lost their NBA team (which they had in turn taken from Buffalo and ended up having to hand over to a city that already had another NBA team)...most San Diegans don't really give a shit because, come on, you're still living in San Diego.

Sporting KC are definately a great team for american soccer recently. Livestrong is such a nice facility.

Let me put this into perspective for the many many people out there who absolutely DO NOT GET Toronto's love affair with our Maple Leafs, who never win anything.

All of the people in Toronto, over the age of 50, were kids when the Leafs last won the Cup(I was five). At that time, Montreal had 14 Cups and we had 13. We had won the Stanley Cup 4 out the last 6 years.

So, as a little boy, your good buddy mapleleaf KNEW that his Leafs were in great shape. Even though the Habs had one more Cup, we were on a ROLL right?

Then Montreal wins 10 cups and we win nothing........

That is true, Sporting KC is pretty solid, and Livestrong is beautiful, but they haven't won a championship for ten years, and let's face it, soccer is not on the top of most fan's priority lists. I love it, but it doesn't get much press in America.