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Gunmaster G-9 (162 D)
07 Jan 10 UTC
Any Indians here?
Looking to see if we can form our own team? Unless there's already one, and I missed it.
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idealist (680 D)
11 Jan 10 UTC
question
Can someone tell me about the new world variant? Is it still in trial mode?
I tried to create a game with it, and it says my account is not qualified for it.
Is it like a paid-member only thing? I've been on for awhile now, but haven't noticed it...Thanks!
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idealist (680 D)
11 Jan 10 UTC
New Game: World Map Variant
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=18774
Looks very interesting. I've never tried it, but if anyone interested, please join.
Very small pot since it's a trial game...at least for me. point-per-supply.
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epikphail (140 D)
11 Jan 10 UTC
Can anyone help?
I'm in a Public chat only game on the new variant map(http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=18639) and a lot of the older global chat messages have dissapeared from the box. Is there any way to see them?
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wizard (0 DX)
11 Jan 10 UTC
We've got a live one in 30!!
Bet 30, 5 min turns, gameID=18757
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DominicHJ (100 D)
11 Jan 10 UTC
Missing link in the World variant
It seems unbelievable that Monterrey (West Coast) does not connect to Mexico. It can currently only move to Northeast Pacific, North Pacific Ocean and California. gameID=18437
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fetteper (1448 D)
11 Jan 10 UTC
it´s a live game!
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=18755
starting in 30 mins
18 D
5 min phase
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PrettyLadyShay (100 D)
10 Jan 10 UTC
so i need help with something
how do i delete this account?
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IKE (3845 D)
10 Jan 10 UTC
If you got the balls
Yes, you knew it was coming.
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=18668
Gunboat- world wide variant 50 D. Very cool game. Sorry something different for the bored. 16 people needed.
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jazzguy1987 (0 DX)
10 Jan 10 UTC
New Live Game!!!!!- WTA!!!!
Here is a new live game!!! 5 min. phases, 10 D to join, and Winner Takes All!! It will start at 6:35p.m. E.T. Come join! No anon players this time!!!
gameID=18750
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jazzguy1987 (0 DX)
10 Jan 10 UTC
New Live Game!!!!
Here is a live Game!!!! 10 D to join, Anon players, Winner-Takes-All, 5 min. phases, starts at 6:10p.m. E.T. Join, people join!!!
gameID=18748
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StevenC. (1047 D(B))
10 Jan 10 UTC
Live Game....
Find it on my profile as the link won't appear on my address bar.....
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jazzguy1987 (0 DX)
10 Jan 10 UTC
New Live Game!!!!!
Here is a new Live Game, set to start at about 5:50p.m. Eastern Time! Anonymous players, 5 min. phases, 10 D to join. Join, people,. join!
gameID=18745
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Infinitum (100 D)
10 Jan 10 UTC
Live Game Please join!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=18737

Need players!
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mel1980 (0 DX)
10 Jan 10 UTC
Fair or Not Fair?
In this game http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=18249
there are 3 players who are friends and working together.
They never told anyone til a few yrs into game. I think this is unfair. Does it constitute met gaming?
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irule (100 D)
10 Jan 10 UTC
ONE MORE PERSON! GAME STARTING @ 2:35
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=18706

C'mon join! 7 minutes left!
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Sendler (418 D)
10 Jan 10 UTC
@mods
could you cancel this game:
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=18712
people won't be their when it starts
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TheRipper (100 D)
10 Jan 10 UTC
Quick Sunday Morning game!
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=18721

5 min turns, Lets get a game down today. I'm itchin' to play :)
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MadMarx (36299 D(G))
07 Jan 10 UTC
Anonymous Ghost-Rating Challenge Game Anyone?
143 point buy in, 36 hour phases, top six rated players to sign up will join me, WTA, password protected... I'd like to create it within 24 hours regardless of the rating of the people signed up to play...
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jimgov (219 D(B))
10 Jan 10 UTC
New game
15 D, anon, 5 min starts in 5
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=18716
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`ZaZaMaRaNDaBo` (1922 D)
10 Jan 10 UTC
Live game in 3-4 hours
gameID=18700

I'll PM the password to everyone who posts in this thread.
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Sendler (418 D)
09 Jan 10 UTC
Western Triple Draw
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=16375
so, this game ended today, my first ever western triple draw
great alliance
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Draugnar (0 DX)
10 Jan 10 UTC
Waiting for an order with only one option in a 10 day game...
I'm in a 10 day game (anonymous, so I won't give specifics or a link) where only one player has a retreat order this phase and all they can do is disband as they are completely surrounded, yet they haven't issued any order and the other players are all forced to wait the full 10 days...
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dave bishop (4694 D)
02 Jan 10 UTC
Riddle (used in an oxbridge interview)
You have two pieces of rope.
You know that both ropes take exactly one hour to burn.
However they do not necessarily burn at a constant rate, i.e after half the rope has burned, you can not assume half an hour has passed.
How can you measure exactly 45 minutes?
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Paulsalomon27 (731 D)
03 Jan 10 UTC
the solution above can be used even if the rate isn't constant, it's just that the burning will take place unevenly on either end, and the two flames may meet somewhere other than the middle. But it will still be half an hour if you light both ends.
dave bishop (4694 D)
03 Jan 10 UTC
Exactly Paulsalomon, and that is what you must realize to solve the riddle.
@flashman, it was used in an interview and I don't think they knew it, but maybe it was unwise of them to do so...
Paulsalomon27 (731 D)
03 Jan 10 UTC
davebishop- are you going to answer my 67.5 minute 3 rope version?
dave bishop (4694 D)
03 Jan 10 UTC
I believe so...
You start one end of the 3rd rope burning at 30 mins (when the first rope's burnt), and light the second end when after 45mins (after the second rope has burnt out).

When the 3rd rope has burnt fully, 67.5 minutes has passed.
Paulsalomon27 (731 D)
03 Jan 10 UTC
sweet. im trying to figure out a hard question. i think im close.
dave bishop (4694 D)
03 Jan 10 UTC
That one wasn't easy... and if you had to solve it without knowing the first one it would be very difficult... nice extension.
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
03 Jan 10 UTC
Not too hard once you've got the idea: but then, nothing is going to be, I don't think (might be long, but not hard)
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
03 Jan 10 UTC
Here's one:

With an arbitrarily large number of ropes, which times under 4 hours can you do?
With n ropes, which times under 4 hours can you do?
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
03 Jan 10 UTC
that's two, actually....
ottovanbis (150 DX)
03 Jan 10 UTC
can you set a rope on fire one both ends and in the middle?
Crazyter (1335 D(G))
03 Jan 10 UTC
GUys-how about a really good live game now?
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=18127
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
03 Jan 10 UTC
@otto: No
Babak (26982 D(B))
04 Jan 10 UTC
i'm sure someone above has the answer... but i liked the question so I'll give it a try...

assuming you dont have a watch you light one rope on both ends and one on only one end... when the first is finished burning up (could be more or less than 30 min) then you light the 2nd end of the 2nd rope... which should finish burning completely in 45 minutes.

I think thats it.
Babak (26982 D(B))
04 Jan 10 UTC
oh wow - lots of ppl got it... and here i was thinking I'm being all smart =P
PURCELL (100 D)
04 Jan 10 UTC
i got it after i read the answer! :)
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
04 Jan 10 UTC
Babak: try my two questions, nobody's done them yet.
Jamiet99uk (808 D)
04 Jan 10 UTC
Umm, just to be a pedant, dave_bishop's second post in this thread said:

"No tools but a lighter I'm afraid.

(and a stopwatch)"

So if you've got a stopwatch, what you do is this:

1. Start the stopwatch.
2. Wait until the stopwatch tells you that exactly 45 minutes have elapsed.

/end.
Jamiet99uk (808 D)
04 Jan 10 UTC
Why spend all this time messing with burning ropes if you've got a stopwatch?
figlesquidge (2131 D)
04 Jan 10 UTC
Seriously unfunny there.

Ghost, are your ropes still 30mins burning?
figlesquidge (2131 D)
04 Jan 10 UTC
With as many as you want and preparation time you could do almost any time you wanted. Just burn down most of the ropes (using method stated above) until you have as smaller time interval as needed. (ie burning one from one end and another from both ends, then after 30mins you can blow out the half-rope, and you have a 30min rope. similarly you can do this for any time 60*2^-n for any natural n. To prepare these ropes you will need n+1 ropes.
general (100 D)
04 Jan 10 UTC
but that only gives you a 30 min rope, then a 15 min rope, 7.5 min, 3.75, etc, etc... how would you get 31 mins? I mean it won't be exact
figlesquidge (2131 D)
04 Jan 10 UTC
(sorry, 1 hr not 30mins).

If you don't have preparation time, then you could theoretically do virtually any time above 1 hour, having used the first hour to prepare for it. However this would clearly be completely impractical as you would have hundreds of ropes burning at a time and all world need to be stopped and started at the right time.

If you can't blow the ropes out then you're slightly limited, but not much. you can also light a rope in 3 places - each ends and the centre. Then, when either section burns away completely you light the centre of the other part. As such the rope is always burning at 4 places, and so will take 15mins to burn. Expanding this theory you could again make any time 60/(2^n) for natural n, requiring only 1 rope. It should be lit at the end for n=0 , both ends for n=1 and for n=k at both ends and k-1 D along it.

Again this could make almost any times as each requires only one rope. I'll get back to you soon for the n ropes question.
figlesquidge (2131 D)
04 Jan 10 UTC
No it won't be General, but supposing you had an infinite number of ropes, I could give you some that lasted for such minute fractions of a second. Then it just comes down to expressing 31/60 in the form A + B/2 + C/4 ...
figlesquidge (2131 D)
04 Jan 10 UTC
right, using the multiple burnings method (and still assuming I can blow out the ropes) I can now make 60,30,15 - requiring one rope for each of these.
If I then put these ropes in a line, sorted by length, I can choose to light or not light each rope individually. Treating lit ropes as 1 and unlit ropes as 0, this can be thought of as a binary representation. ie,
1 hour: 1000..... (with (n-1) 0s)
45mins:0110... etc
Thus I can make up 2^n different times with n ropes.
figlesquidge (2131 D)
04 Jan 10 UTC
(sorry to post so many times, I just walked off then realised this last bit:)
As this second method just requires you to light the ropes at the appropriate time then you dont need to be able to blow them out, so all that matters is you light a section of unburnt rope whenever flaming section burns away.
Jamiet99uk (808 D)
04 Jan 10 UTC
@ figle: "Seriously unfunny there"

Who's trying to be funny? I just don't understand why he said you had a stopwatch. If you have a stopwatch you don't need the other stuff.
figlesquidge (2131 D)
04 Jan 10 UTC
Ah sorry, fair enough. My mistake and was rather harsh response even then - I assumed it was an (attempted) joke.

Also I've realised that with 1 rope you can make an infinite different number of times, simply by lighting it multiple times, which can be used to make any unit fraction of 60. For a fraction of the form 1/[2x] light at x places along the rope, for fractions 1/[2x+1] light at x places along and one end. As above, each time a section burns up completely relight the rope at another location. These times will be less and less useful, rather than the options given above, but could still be done.
Eg, to get 0.9375minutes you have to light the rope at 32 places
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
04 Jan 10 UTC
Figle:
You cannot set fire to a rope in more than two places.
You cannot prepare.
You are in a mathematical problem where getting all the ropes on fire isn't an issue.
It is an arbitrarily large number of ropes, which is not synonymous with an infinite number, so you cannot do anything that isn't n/2^m

Dealing with just the arbitrarily large number:
You can make, in the first hour: 30, 45, 52.5 etc. mins and the full hour. That much is obvious equally obvious is that you can use the hour to create any number of ropes of length 1/2^A hours where A is arbitrarily large, and therefore can do any time beyond an hour which is of the form n/2^m hours, where n, m are positive integers.

More interesting are the following:
Arbitrarily large without blowing out.
n with blowing out
n without blowing out.
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
04 Jan 10 UTC
Also, if we did allow multiple burn points, that still only allows you to do rational numbers.
TheGhostmaker (1545 D)
04 Jan 10 UTC
Using the Ghost as my unit of time, where 30mins=1Ghost

You can do following times in Ghosts (all variables are positive integers):
0
1
2-1/2^a
2
3-1/2^a -1/2^b
3
4-1/2^a - 1/2^b -1/2^c
4
etc. (up to 8 Ghosts=4 hours)

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Maniac (184 D(B))
06 Jan 10 UTC
World Cup (English Team)
I'd like to play but need a captain plus two others. This is not to be confused with the London Yeam (scabs the lot of 'um)
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moses (124 D)
10 Jan 10 UTC
JOIN THIS GAME! 12 hr/phase anon
brand new game
starts in an hour
join it fools!
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=18683
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moses (124 D)
09 Jan 10 UTC
LIVE GAME
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=18636
please join
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C-K (2037 D)
09 Jan 10 UTC
Saturday Night Live!!!-2
Start: 1 hours, 1 mins (12:00 AM) GMT+1
5 minutes /phase (live)
Pot: 20 D - No in-game messaging, Anonymous players, Winner-takes-all
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maddigascar (0 DX)
09 Jan 10 UTC
New Game---Final Victory
Public Press, Anonymous, classic, WTA

1 day 12 hour turns, 50 point commitment. Hurry, starts in two days.
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jazzguy1987 (0 DX)
10 Jan 10 UTC
New Live Game replacing the one I posted below!!!
I know this is like the billionth live game I have posted, but it hasn't worked out before. 5 min. phases, 8 D to join, Anonomous players, starts at about 8p.m. Eastern Time. gameID=18661
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