Yanik I convinced a customer today that they want Orange Juice with their breakfast. According to your theory there was nothing I could have said and if they wanted it theyd have just magically ordered it without me even asking. Simple study of one morning at my job would tell you that suggestive selling is real, marketing is real and if I look a certain way- say it a certain way -smile - youll buy it and like it.

Whereas if I dont bother. You likely wont know. Because of my effort BOOM capitalism happens at a larger rate than without. I sold them on HOW to eat their goddamn breakfast. (Like a true player)

Advertising is essential to capitalism, no doubt about that. But there have always been ways to con idiots. Capitalism only diversified. If you aren't an idiot or a sheep, advertising can't play an important part in your life.

BTW brainbomb, you keep empathizing with the "masses". That's touching, but also a bit ridiculous. Rap makes morons pine for Lamborghinis? Who cares! Are you hoping you can teach them to be smarter? Forget it. They'll never learn. It's a wasted effort.

"Yanik I convinced a customer today that they want Orange Juice with their breakfast. According to your theory there was nothing I could have said and if they wanted it theyd have just magically ordered it without me even asking."

i didn't say marketing had NO impact, that's an absolute mischaracterization of what i said. i said that marketing is overhyped nowadays, and some buyers do actually price shop.

"Simple study of one morning at my job would tell you that suggestive selling is real, marketing is real and if I look a certain way- say it a certain way -smile - youll buy it and like it."

actually that's called an anecdote, and is not representative of an entire population. let's take the inverse, let's say the person REALLY wanted milk, and you tried to convince them to get lemonade. is it impossible for them to resist? of course not. sure you may have had an influence, but many buyers know the product they want, and know how much they're willing to spend.


have you seen advertising recently? it drives all profits nowadays, and it's so much so that people specifically target advertisers to make companies lose money, like the hit job on PewDiePie.

advertising definitely has a large influence, but after a while that influence tops off, and it'd be actually better to scale back marketing

to be more precise, the kinds of marketing being used, are often the most wasteful. malcolm gladwell (not my favorite author but alright) wrote about this in "The Tipping Point," on how to more effectively market a product.

but how does this refute my original point that capitalism is downstream of culture?

Ive read every Malcolm Gladwell book. Big fan.

No but I think you downplayed marketing and sales and the use of culture to promote products and said "people actually do buy in a vaccuum" which really isnt even true for established goods. Theres still ads for popcorn even. Like people get free advertising when celebs endorse something but thats also not counting all the celebs with their own perfumes and clothing lines.

well they don't ALWAYS buy in a vacuum, but it's an observable behavior, that people go to stores buy goods that aren't well advertised, solely due to price. that's how generic brands exist!

but my quarrels with advertising are more quarrels with culture. quarrels. bleck. but if people see a celebrity endorse something, does that make the product any better? there's a strong argument that the gained social utility makes people feel better, but that stems from a culture where people are constantly looking for social standing.

Advertising is the spark plug that drives capitalism. Its been proven you cannot expect consumers to buy unless you imply they need something. Simply turning on a TV, listening to the radio, doing anything or going anywhere theres gonna be a billboard or a sign or something enticing you to do something.

The reason why marketing remains a great major to study in college is that its a decent living wage, a pretty laid back job that relies on territory and demographics, and its fueled by young people and trends.

You are-quarreling with the engine of the market. The magnet that takes any consumer of any income and its an equalizer. They want all our money yanik. They want everyone to want what they have.

Think about apple and samsung. Itd be easy to say phones are such a part of our society now they couldnt possibly need marketing. Pffft. Have you seen how crazy fucking people get over the new iphone or new samsung? They will eat your first born child to be the first to get one.

Thats marketing/advertising and companies refusing to just go into the vaccuum.

Now lets take broccoli.

Yea nobody really needs to market broccoli. Itd be rather silly to try to start a marketing ad campaign to get ppl to buy broccoli but guess what...

Eggs do it
Beef does it
Beer does it


Granted the part of your argument about clothes is true because of thrift stores abd the rise in hipster culture which decided advertising and marketing were demons. Hipsters are-easy to sell too. Throw in buzz words that sound unique/trendy/healthy and theyll buy.

Gluten free/farm raised/organic the list goes on.

You're getting maaaad and I'm getting rich

watch out lil bitch

watch out lil ho

My partners still smoke on parole

they say that I'm crazy

I used to talk to stove

Mod's lame rapping is actually an attempt to smooth over his first post, as he's not sure it won't be taken as an insult despite the rhyme. Pathetic.

Stupid ass bitch, I don't fuck with you

I mean for real, fuck how you feel. And fuck your two cents if it ain't going towards the bills.

Of all the Big Sean songs, plz yoyo

Keep going. I'd love it if censors had to go against one of their own. But they'll condone your "joke", of course.

What the heck are you going on about zmaj

All complaints can go to [email protected]

Yeah, wash your hands now, government office style... Some rapper.

fuck the police coming straight from the underground

@Prado and Yanik

The two of you are friends in real life, are you not? The way that you talk it seems as though you know one another personally.

a young fellow got it bad cuz I'm brown

Actually i prefer a good Beethoven sonata or perhaps a Chopin waltz. Of course there is room for some grolfe or perhaps copeland. Then again a good Williams movie score works too.

I like a Gershwin tune, how about you? I like Long Beach in June, how about you?