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CAPT Brad (40 DX)
01 Jun 17 UTC
Covfefe
Is this a new SNAFU or BOHICA?
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CommanderByron (801 D(S))
02 Jun 17 UTC
Interesting thought
If you have a cell phone type the word : "Diplomacy"
Then keep hitting your phones first suggestion until your message loops. Interesting to see how long/short or varied peoples lists will be.
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Oztra (30 DX)
31 May 17 UTC
What do people do outside of webDip?
Do people actually have lives outside of this game? What do people actually pursue with their existence? Who has the worst job? All of these burning questions, just waiting to be answered.
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brainbomb (290 D)
31 May 17 UTC
Trump pulls out
It appears the days where America cared about polar bears, rising sea levels, emissions, and trying to be a leader in changing our dying planet.... has all come to an end. RIP Earth.
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There won't be sanctions, as this isn't even a formal treaty. Everything by every nation is completely voluntary
ND (879 D)
03 Jun 17 UTC
Why would the US get sanctioned for leaving a non-binding treaty that was never formally ratified by the United States Senate. Trump has every constitutional right to remove the United States from a job killing deal that hurts the American economy. Really good move on Trump's part honestly.
Ogion (3882 D)
03 Jun 17 UTC
Is it the moral thing to do? Absolutely. Is there the political will? Doubtful still the US seems hell bent on destroying the livable environment for everyone. The case for sanctions and war against the US is a whole lot stronger than it ever was against Iraq. By the Cheney doctrine, every nation on earth now has a justification to launch preemptive strikes against the US. That won't happen either


At most, the rest of the world will ignore any request from the Us and the US will be frozen out of the international order as a pariah state
orathaic (1009 D(B))
03 Jun 17 UTC
@ND why did Russiaget sanctions for annexing Crimea? Because it was deemed to be in the national interest of the sanctioning countries.

International law is about what you can get away with, not who has signed which treaty... If ever other signatory of the Paris Agreement decided to stop biying American beef in retaliation, that would be well withon their power (Cows produce methane, so they could legitimately decide this was the best way to curb US emmissions). And the countries could say whatever they liked, but they would justify it to their people by claiming (correctly) that is was to protect the environment and was thus in the national interest...
orathaic (1009 D(B))
03 Jun 17 UTC
@Ogion, pariah status would be far further than i can imagine; i wonder what WTO rules would say about it... Isually use to protect western trade interests...
Randomizer (722 D)
03 Jun 17 UTC
Trump ought to remember the US is downwind from polluting China. Only a few years ago it was so bad that the clouds hadn't broken up before reaching the west coast. It doesn't just affect within the countries.
CAPT Brad (40 DX)
03 Jun 17 UTC
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Ogion is just mad because he lost three contracts over this. so less bloodsucking off the government vein
ND (879 D)
03 Jun 17 UTC
@Orathaic: Sure. I suppose that hypothetical 'sanctioning communities' could put sanctions on the United States. However, they will also risk retaliation from the United States. This could mean us leaving mutual defense pacts like NATO (I guess they will have to start paying more than 2% at that point) or the United States stops subsidizing the United Nations (oops guess someone else will have to pay for that) or the United States issuing it's own sanctions on those countries... Be careful what you ask for.

Also the Paris Accords does nothing to protect the environment. It penalizes the United States economy and continues to let polluting nations like China and India ramp up their own carbon emissions for a set period of time. So, the world loses nothing with this deal in shambles.
Sanctions against the United States will never happen. The world will not do anything to negatively impact our economy, because the rule still is when America sneezes, the world catches a cold.

ND - I still think the Paris Accord would've been a net job gain for the US. Yes, it kills coal and some oil jobs, but replaces them with renewables jobs. I mean, if we were to seriously go to hit the mark, there would be vast, vast amounts of construction jobs created.
And countries like China and India can't just "stop" their emissions growth, ND. A huge chunk of China's emissions are industry and electricity generation. You can't just retool factories and build new power plants overnight. And in the meantime the energy needs and the industrial output will both grow. It's perfectly reasonable for the accords to allow for limited emissions growth in industrializing nations.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
03 Jun 17 UTC
@ND, economic retaliation is exactly what i would expect. Maybe a but of tit-for-tat strategy coming into play, and the global economy shrinking a little bit (at least in certain industries) - if the sanctions (and retaliation) were targeted at specific polluting industries (i just suggested beef because it is probably the most polluting meat source, but i'm not an expert on this issie, so that is a guess); we could actually see giant leaps in greenhouse gas reductions.

Alas, i suspect goldfinger is right, the fact that OPEC still sells all oil in USD making the USD the world's reserve currency, not only makes printing USD (which only Congress can do, through whatever private banking system it uses) less inflationary - because there is always demand for a safe currency to invest in (and safety is the whole point of buildin up a reserve). It also means none of those countries using the USD want to see the US economy fail to grow (can't have the US fail to pay off their debts..).

Again, hitting something (comparatively) small, but targetted, like beef, would he an excellent start. It would also negin to decouple the food industry, making individual regions more secure in their food sources.

I guess it will take more than the Paris agreements to push world leaders to punish the US; they might be smart to quietly sell of their USD before oil become an insignifigant source of energy (if we have already hit peak oil, then the decrease in volume sold globally will - probably in the next 50 year - quietly drop off the map).
orathaic (1009 D(B))
03 Jun 17 UTC
Also this: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-climate-skeptics-are-wrong/
principians (881 D)
03 Jun 17 UTC
5 Bad Reasons to Ditch the Paris Climate Agreement

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WKoj-kodBw
JamesYanik (548 D)
03 Jun 17 UTC
http://edgar.jrc.ec.europa.eu/news_docs/jrc-2016-trends-in-global-co2-emissions-2016-report-103425.pdf

USA seems to be going in the right direction, the people who really need to be taken to the sword are the Chinese. they're over doubling our current CO2 output, and show much less initiative to decrease their emissions.
JamesYanik (548 D)
03 Jun 17 UTC
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/progress-u-s-carbon-emissions-decline/
damian (675 D)
03 Jun 17 UTC
In response to the title. Trumps' father didn't.
AngrySeas (346 D)
04 Jun 17 UTC
It isn't about the reality of a warming globe due to human activity. It's not about jobs, China, carbon emissions, or anything else. Whether you think pulling out is good or bad for the American economy is immaterial to the decision.

Trump: "I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris. I promised I would exit or renegotiate any deal which fails to serve America's interests."

Republicans want to win the next election.
Randomizer (722 D)
04 Jun 17 UTC
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/01/politics/pittsburgh-mayor-donald-trump/index.html

Pittsburgh overwhelmingly voted against Trump and wants the accord to clean up the air. Trump isn't serving the citizens of Pittsburgh.


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leon1122 (190 D)
03 Jun 17 UTC
Interesting thought
If you have a cell phone type the word : "President"
Then hit the first suggestion and press submit.
Interesting to who everyone's most talked-about President is.
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captainmeme (1723 DMod)
29 May 17 UTC
WebDiplomacy Survivor - Final Tribal Council
35 days ago, 21 castaways begun their journey in the webDiplomacy version of the famous reality game show. Now, only three - Balki Bartokomous, DemonOverlord, Fluminator - remain, and all have fought tooth and nail to make it this far.

The final victor will be decided by eleven of the players they voted out, and this is their opportunity to sway votes their way. Welcome to Final Tribal.
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CAPT Brad (40 DX)
03 Jun 17 UTC
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Colleges Celebrate Diversity With Separate Commencements
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/02/us/black-commencement-harvard.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=photo-spot-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0
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PhoenixFeathers13 (100 D)
03 Jun 17 UTC
2 Players needed
Help! We need two more players for a fun unranked game! http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=199852
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swagdaddy69 (100 D)
02 Jun 17 UTC
Interest in playing a live game this afternoon
Trying to get a live game going 5 minute turn. Willing to draw or pause whenever.
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
02 Jun 17 UTC
And here's the weather
https://weather.com/
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Clownie (295 D)
02 Jun 17 UTC
Supporting others against your own unit
I'll be circumspect about the description, for obvious reasons (game's ongoing, in case it wasn't sufficiently obvious). See below.
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LeonWalras (865 D)
02 Jun 17 UTC
Autocomplete public press
Basically the idea is to provide you with a centre so we can work together. The only press is public commitment to attack Italy. Every sentence may be in Gascony and the other games. The rest is autocompleted to find out what kind of player is required.
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CommanderByron (801 D(S))
01 Jun 17 UTC
Most offensive thread.
See inside.
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CommanderByron (801 D(S))
01 Jun 17 UTC
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Should this thread be locked?
See inside.
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Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
02 Jun 17 UTC
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June GR Published
https://sites.google.com/site/phpdiplomacytournaments/theghost-ratingslist
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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
01 Jun 17 UTC
America doesn't care about Earth
Fuck you, Trump. Fuck you, every cunt who voted for him. America is a force for evil. You need to be fucking obliterated.
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brainbomb (290 D)
01 Jun 17 UTC
Official Greatest Food Tournament Thread
See inside oven for details...
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CptMike (4457 D)
25 May 17 UTC
Survey - Diplomacy boardgame
I was just wondering... 100 % of us play on webDiplomacy.net. But how many of us have the boardgame, with the wooden blocks for the armies and boats... ?
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
24 May 17 UTC
webDiplomacy F2F tournament in MA, USA
We're only 4 months out from Boston Massacre folks, so now is the time to start making plans! If you're even remotely interested, please reach out to me so I can persuade you. And if you're very interested, go to www.BostonMassacreDiplomacy.com to register!
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CommanderByron (801 D(S))
01 Jun 17 UTC
"Trump pulls out" thread innuendo masked as title
The thread regarding trump leaving the Paris accords. Could be viewed very much as a slighted innuendo of Trumps past. He has been accused of some sketchy things. Discuss.
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Jacob63831 (160 D)
30 May 17 UTC
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Don't click on this
Really just don't
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
31 May 17 UTC
Is it true that covfefe = 0.99999 repeating?
You don't know shit about the covfefe
Bo is the covfefe
JMO gonna bring down the covfefe hammer
Have you heard the tale of Plagueis the Covfefe
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MajorMitchell (1874 D)
01 Jun 17 UTC
SEX, is it greater than, less than, or equal to 0.99999 recurring ?
Is SEX a problem for Trump ? Can be make America great at SEX again ?
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CommanderByron (801 D(S))
01 Jun 17 UTC
Trump pulls out
Unfortunately most of the women involved didn't be want him to push in.
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Jacob63831 (160 D)
26 May 17 UTC
Jelly or Jam
Which is better?
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brainbomb (290 D)
28 May 17 UTC
Rap and Hip Hop promote better capitalist values than Country or Rock
Rims, Gold Chains, Fancy Cars, Implants, Gold Teeth, Swimming Pools, Palm Trees, Mansions, "Ive made it culture", "Look at me". Are values pure to American capitalism and more purely espouse what America is.
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Babyburger (1564 D)
31 May 17 UTC
see older chat log
In the games I'm playing, the chat log only shows the most recent x amount of messages. Is there any way to consult older messages as well?
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Technostar (251 D)
21 May 17 UTC
Diplomacy and MBTI
I'm curious, what Myers-Briggs (MBTI) personality types do Diplomacy players have? Post your type here!

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WolfsBane626 (235 D)
30 May 17 UTC
Ancient Med
Anyone want to play an Ancient Med with 3 people who know each other?
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Jacob63831 (160 D)
30 May 17 UTC
How to solve all of humanity's problems
http://www.healthline.com/health-news/parasites-in-your-intestines-may-actually-be-good-for-you-120315#2
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