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Chaqa (3971 D(B))
25 Jan 17 UTC
Lusthog time
It's lusthog time. 2 games this go, same as usual:
- Gunboat
- No draws until stalemate
- No NMR
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The Ambassador (124 D)
25 Jan 17 UTC
Dip Directions?
In episode 11 of the Diplomacy Games podcast Kaner and I discussed longevity aspects and risk management of sites like webDip and vDip to ensure they grow and reduce the chances of going down (either technically speaking or perceptions of IP infringement). We said we'd create a thread for this for others to contribute. What do you reckon?
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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
03 Jan 17 UTC
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MAFIA XXVI - GAME THREAD
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Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
22 Jan 17 UTC
Some more D4 Analysis now that we know the entire scum team bar the last player; as this was the first day that scum were actually up for lynching - I already analysed xorxes' protection of teacon here, but let's have a look at RHK & rdrivera, and everyone else:

RHK: Voted Flood right at the day start but changed to Flum with my wagon at the end. Given teacon wasn't really an option by then, I can't see many reasons he'd have done this, but hey. He was the second person to vote Flum, so maybe he was concerned if nobody joined me then teacon might become viable again.

rdrivera: Voted RHK to the end. Bussing him over teacon now makes a lot of sense given that RHK was the traitor after all.

Flum & arj were the only two to stay on teacon to the end. Flum obviously wasn't around; but both of them had voted nobody else all day. Credit to both. A little point in arj being town there, good.

The Floodgates wagon:
DL8 - Unknown
Kaka - Town
Warden - Town
DO - Town
Maniac - Town
teacon7 - scum
+xorxes corruption vote

teacon and Maniac both jumped on very late. Was this entirely town-driven before teacon's vote? It seems quite a stretch; but it means the only scum that could've formed it is DL8 - though RHK had also been on it earlier. DL's vote on Flood came when the teacon wagon was leading; with votes from ghug, Flum, Kaka... and very notably; the guy who started said teacon wagon - dargorygel. Notably, at that point that teacon was leading, xorxes voted on me, then rdrivera on RHK, and then DL8 on Flood... could this have been all the mafia trying to start different wagons to save teacon?

Ezio had voted Maniac far earlier and stayed on him til his final second vote on Flum; but with it being TvT I'm not sure why Ezio would've made that vote as scum. Drew a hell of a lot of attention to him.

Notably it's not til after those xorxes/rdrivera/DL8 votes that arj came on to vote teacon. I think arj is town. And I think all the mafia may have been trying to save teacon that day. DL8 > Ezio for final scum now.
Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
22 Jan 17 UTC
@Flum

Eyy we made the best role swap
Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
22 Jan 17 UTC
Darg starting the D4 teacon wagon is also a big townie point, forgot to put that in there*
Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
22 Jan 17 UTC
Also, @DO

If you don't want me to react negatively toward you; perhaps you shouldn't spend an entire day (d2) saying how much I suck every single time I'm mentioned; without any provocation whatsoever. I've been willing to work with people throughout this game; and have done so repeatedly. I can work with people whilst calling them out in the process, because I haven't let my emotions actually affect my reads. And when teacon flips, I'll have nailed 4 scum on the bounce. I think it's a winning strategy :D
Durga (3609 D)
22 Jan 17 UTC
HR it bothers me to hell that you play this game as if you are the ONLY PERSON playing this game. We all influence each other in all our reads, but you pretend that you're the lone genius. We discuss things together but you pretend that you came to the conclusion on your own and all the credit is yours. You make me not want to play.

Lmao, were you not insulting me continuously for scum reading DL? In the future can you just shut the fuck up when I do something. That being said, I don't think DL is stupid enough not to NK me and I think it is very plausible that both wagons were started by town.
Durga (3609 D)
22 Jan 17 UTC
I would like someone to come end this phase + we can speed up night. We'll lose Kaka but it isn't a big deal.
Durga (3609 D)
22 Jan 17 UTC
Actually we can't even lose Kaka!! Holy shit lmao. I save you, you save Kaka. Boom.
Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
22 Jan 17 UTC
I never insulted you for scumreading DL. I have never townread DL; he's been a null for me all game. The only person I've complained about you scumreading is Flood, and that was a long time ago. I came on that day and stated that I felt xorxes was the safer lynch; which he was. As for the night kills: I didn't think xorxes was dumb enough to make those nightkills on Balki and Bo (and thus xorxes was the traitor)... but he was. Given how awful town was for the first 4 days; the mafia have played even worse for us to be in such a good position now. The living clears right now should be Bo and Kaka; not a bunch of invulnerables.

I don't play it as if I'm the only person playing, but I play it as if I'm the only person making *my* reads... because I am. And I credit people when credit is due - unfortunately, no credit was due for just about anyone because we all sucked early on. And I gave you credit for the xorxes lynch, I merely pointed out that I swung people back onto it (because I did). The rdrivera lynch is entirely thanks to me and my hooker analysis was clearly pretty damn good, but most of the time I only mention my own genius to troll people; rather like Balki. It's pretty funny to give such hyperbole. And it creates a handy meta to rely on. Win/win.

I don't particularly enjoy unprovoked jibes either, but you threw them at me D2 for reasons I still am completely unaware of. I'm not going to sulk and refuse to play over them, though, because if jibes weren't being thrown then this wouldn't be webDip. If you don't want someone to react, don't start a fight, though.
Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
22 Jan 17 UTC
Yeah, I said that a while ago - scum have to kill an unclear tonight; or hope you're lying and shoot me (I hope you're not lying :P). Meaning we'll get a mislynch for free, basically.
Durga (3609 D)
22 Jan 17 UTC
I'm not lying, which is the exciting part.
Fluminator (1500 D)
22 Jan 17 UTC
"We'll lose Kaka but it isn't a big deal."
:*(
Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
22 Jan 17 UTC
I'll miss Kaka :(
arj11 (254 D)
22 Jan 17 UTC
Interesting that RHK was the traitor. Down to two now huh? Well with teacon it will hopefully be 1.

##VOTE TEACON
##END
Jamiet99uk (808 D)
22 Jan 17 UTC
DAY HAS ENDED
PLEASE HOLD
Jamiet99uk (808 D)
22 Jan 17 UTC
DAY SEVEN HAS ENDED EARLY
(Due to an endhammer)

FINAL (Hammered) VOTE COUNT:

Teacon7 (6) - Hellenic Riot, Fluminator, DemonOverlord, Kakarroto, dargorygel, arj11

Votes to END (6/6) - Hellenic Riot, Fluminator, DemonOverlord, Kakarroto, dargorygel,arj11

---------------------------
The patients were sure they had the gang of crooks cornered now. They wasted no time in rounding on their suspect and bludgeoning him into a meaty paste.

TEACON7 has died! He was THE SILENT KNIGHT, the POISONER of the MAFIA!

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NIGHT SEVEN HAS BEGUN - YOU MAY POST
Fluminator (1500 D)
22 Jan 17 UTC
Can we end night early, or would that interfere with whatever pr shenanigans you guys are doing.
Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
22 Jan 17 UTC
Hah, to the surprise of nobody :p

##Call GM

Can we do the usual End night rules where if every living player PM's you to end it, the night can end early?
teacon7 (306 D)
22 Jan 17 UTC
Lady and gentlemen:

I've clearly lost this game, and will be lynched anyway. I've sent a &&concede vote, in the event that my buddy was doing that too... but I can't actually self-vote and end the day.

My takeaway from this game is twofold: 1) I will have to budget much more time in my schedule if I ever want to play again, because you people are worth the respect to post more, and... 2) my intentional lurker scum meta isn't going to be working for me ever again. That said, I really wasn't intending to lurk as scum this game (for obvious reasons), but RL got busier than I thought. :( I'm conceding now, as next week will bog me down with work again. Please accept my apologies to GMs, teammates, spectators, and even town for whatever grief I've caused.

Some thoughts for discussion:
1) I'd like to think scum played pretty well for the first several days. RHK getting modkilled didn't do us favors, but with his role, he had a much harder time of it in the first place. That said, we realized by about D4 how much of an uphill battle this was... how many MLs/misfires did we actually need to win?
2) The size of the game radically changes the nature and psychology of how we all played. This game was too big for me to keep up with, and I don't think I'm the only one. Perhaps we'll have better games if we do size limits as dispassionately and justly as jamiet did modkills this game. We'd have a big enough sub buffer to account for it.


To my teammate:
Unless you were trying to concede, here's a thought.... I'm posting this here to prevent any future slips. You don't have to concede. See post 297 in the QT for translation. Angle for 4 and 8, endure the free for all, and see if you can get to lylo with 26.
teacon7 (306 D)
22 Jan 17 UTC
Oh shoot sorry for the deadpost. I was typing :/

oooooOOOoooo
Jamiet99uk (808 D)
22 Jan 17 UTC
GM NOTE:
The NIGHT 7 deadline will be tomorrow at 11pm GMT

(This makes Night 7 shorter than a normal night, but only by a small amount, and ensures that it processes at the normal time of day)
Fluminator (1500 D)
22 Jan 17 UTC
good game teacon. I understand when life gets you busy.
Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
22 Jan 17 UTC
You probably should've saved the explanation til the game ends, teacon.

@Jamie

Was that a reply to my Call GM or just a general note?
Jamiet99uk (808 D)
22 Jan 17 UTC
GM NOTE:
If every single player still alive PMs me and Chaqa with ##END NIGHT then we will, yes.
Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
22 Jan 17 UTC
Awesome, cheers.

@DO
I'm saving Kaka, I obviously assume you aren't using the Rod tonight.
Durga (3609 D)
22 Jan 17 UTC
Tbh I don't even have the rod lmao maybe I'll get it tonight :)
Fluminator (1500 D)
22 Jan 17 UTC
I hope deathllama and ezio aren't scum. I've been defending them too long to back down now.
I hope arj is scum because then my reads have been decent.
Ezio (2181 D)
22 Jan 17 UTC
posting for night. You guys have done pretty well without me today.
Tom Bombadil (4023 D(G))
22 Jan 17 UTC
Looks like I came back after a long day to a few pleasant surprises. 2 more down. Plus it was easy to catch up because I just skipped all the parts where HR was talking about how great he is which was about 90% of the content =P

I'll take a look tomorrow to see who may be the final scum. Too late to start looking now, and darg is looking townier than I thought, so I may be off base there.
Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
22 Jan 17 UTC
That's all that matters Tom ;)

Anyway as I'm now safe for 2 more nights minimum, we should probably tier our lynches. There's no way whatsoever ever that I'd lynch Tom at any point here. Unlikely to lynch Flum or arj, and against a darg lynch too. DL8 is first choice by a pretty solid margin from Ezio.
Kakarroto (128 D)
22 Jan 17 UTC
since there is still a question unanswered, here again:
"@arj: you only voted rd and then there was nothing from you, tell us why please."

@the last Mafia player: the situation right now looks this way: 11 players - 10 town, 1 mafia. Our developer has the trait paranoid, as soon as you kill our "goddess", you die. Our developer can get 9 powers (random order), we are at night 7, so 3 more to go until she is at her highest powerlevel.

Even if you play perfectly, let us have a look at that:

N7- nk of a town (9-1 = 10 players, developer gains 7th power)
D8- mislynch of a town (8-1 = 9 players)
N8- nk of a town (7-1 = 8 players, developer gains 8th power)
D9- mislynch of a town (6-1 = 7 players)
N9- nk of a town (5-1 = 6 players, developer gains 9th power)
D10- mislynch of a town (4-1 = 5 players)
N11- "goddess" uses her lighning rod, you visit her, she kills you, you don't even kill her since she has the bullet proof vest (4-0 = 4 town players, town win)

You see, the only way this game can be won by mafia anymore is if "goddess" gets modkilled. And then you have to face the rest of town, with HR as a doc, so these night kills I mentioned aren't easy to do! Don't you think it is time to concede? This game has been long and is practically over. No lylo/mylo situation will rescue you. Only modkills. And even then you have to play perfectly. Though even if the modkills help you to win here, do you want such a victory anyway? That leaves such a bad aftertaste, doesn't it? Not why we play this games anyway.

And I understand why brain mentioned the situation early with the 26 people but only 5 mafia players. The odds were against you right from the start. You did play well surviving this long, pitching town versus town at the start, but there is just no mechanical way to win this now for you. Good game, well played, but please don't drag out the inevitable.

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Flame (125 D)
25 Jan 17 UTC
For Russian-speaking players
I still want to remind that russian-speaking players are also welcomed to Diplomail.Ru webdiplomacy server.
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WyattS14 (100 D(B))
25 Jan 17 UTC
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So apparently you can't join more than 10 games...
WebDip thinks I have a life. Funny
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ssorenn (0 DX)
25 Jan 17 UTC
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My gunboats are over, time for some new ones
36h,dss, 25pt, gunboats
3 games--please join if you can play all three
Please ready if you can-----
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fourofswords (415 D)
25 Jan 17 UTC
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Can we get 901 back?
Is it possible to get known world 901 variant back? with or without fixing bugs? It seems enough people like it.
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Condescension (10 D)
20 Jan 17 UTC
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In less than 24 hours, a lunatic will be in control of the nuclear football.
We're fucked.
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The Ambassador (124 D)
25 Jan 17 UTC
Latest podcast of Diplomacy Games
New podcast episode of DiplomacyGames.com is now live on the website, iTunes & Stitcher. Kaner and I trade barbs over our 1v1 performance, we go down the rabbit hole about the direction of the various Dip sites and have a bit of fun discussing the Africa variant over at VDip. Enjoy!
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ssorenn (0 DX)
23 Jan 17 UTC
Thomas Sowell
The worst president ever

https://youtu.be/0UpiNiaak18
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TrPrado (461 D)
24 Jan 17 UTC
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Most Important Thread of the Year
The Oscars
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WyattS14 (100 D(B))
14 Jan 17 UTC
Phantasmagoria?
I'm a little confused as to how you would use the word phantasmagorical/phantasmagoria/etc. I understand the words meaning, but would it be used as a negative connotation or positive connotation?
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Ezio (2181 D)
24 Jan 17 UTC
Most Elegant Stab
I am trying to find some examples of pretty looking stabs. I know people take pride in them, so what do you think is the best stab you've ever done on the site?
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0k0k0 (4810 D)
24 Jan 17 UTC
Why can't I create a Known World Game?
The option does not appear in the list of variants.
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sirKristof (15 DX)
23 Jan 17 UTC
901?
I've been unable to find or create any new 901 variant games for a while now. It's still listed as active though! Anyone else have this issue?
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WyattS14 (100 D(B))
23 Jan 17 UTC
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US Election and Aftermath
I did this with my Asia Pacific thread. Let's see if a reasonable discussion on the possible outcome of this election could be. (Articles and counterpoints are more than welcome)
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captainmeme (1723 DMod)
23 Jan 17 UTC
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diplomacy.avi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVvAl7G4xLI
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brainbomb (290 D)
15 Jan 17 UTC
Why God probably isnt real
I decided to open my imagination
I prayed about something recently. I asked God to give me signs. God gave me all the wrong signs. Therefore I submit this as Exhibit A, God is eother an asshole or doesnt exist. Discuss
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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
23 Jan 17 UTC
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"Alternative Facts"
Or, you know, what we used to just called "lies".
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Ezio (2181 D)
16 Jan 17 UTC
aaron rodgers is a god
I told everyone
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CommanderByron (801 D(S))
23 Jan 17 UTC
Let's Keep It Real
Conservatives- Resistant to change, confident in the status quo.
Liberals- Supportive of change, dissatisfied with the status quo.
If we stopped attacking each other for a few minutes these traits could be complimentary.
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Condescension (10 D)
23 Jan 17 UTC
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Conservatives are socially awkward
I think I just figured it out. Conservatives are just fucking socially awkward. That's the only reason you could possibly not figure out that privilege is a thing.
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evanej (100 D)
20 Jan 17 UTC
How are you welcoming in Trump?
It is time!
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JamesYanik (548 D)
23 Jan 17 UTC
NEW WORLD RECORD
after only 4 hours, #alternativefacts is already being overused, just beating out the previous record held by #fakenews.

we fully expect to endure this for the next few days, until it to dies, or develops into something else (such as #bullshitnews)
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brainbomb (290 D)
21 Jan 17 UTC
I dont believe in the alphabet or languages
I think God did not actually create the alphabet. People did. People also made the tower of babel. Im agaist taxes being used to teach people the alphabet. God didnt create it, so its not important
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20 Jan 17 UTC
Does math Exist, or is it really JUST an idea?
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CAPT Brad (40 DX)
19 Dec 16 UTC
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Why I Love The Live Gunboat Games
I have the PC game of Diplomacy and played it to victory pretty much everytime; the few losses from the beginning as i was learning.
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Chumbles (791 D(S))
22 Jan 17 UTC
Only one needed: gunboat, ancmed
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=189485
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19 Jan 17 UTC
F2F Tournament in MA, USA
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Peregrine Falcon (9010 D(S))
21 Jan 17 UTC
Friends Game
I'm looking for three more people to join me and three friends for a game. We'll keep the meta gaming to a minimum. Post here or message me if you're interested.
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