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WyattS14 (100 D (B))
20 Jan 17 UTC
Does math Exist, or is it really JUST an idea?
I found
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CAPT Brad (40 D X)
19 Dec 16 UTC
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Why I Love The Live Gunboat Games
I have the PC game of Diplomacy and played it to victory pretty much everytime; the few losses from the beginning as i was learning.
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
19 Dec 16 UTC
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After awhile i learned the pattern of the AI and of course after the third move it just makes dumb moves. But here even the most inexperienced player makes better moves and mistakes are unpredictable. Also this has been my classroom for face to face games as i have learned the quirks of the game and its strategic pattern. Lastly, playing with you fellows is just plain fun.
Hauta (1618 D (S))
19 Dec 16 UTC
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I've learned to give CAPT_Brad hell as soon as I can.
swordsman3003 (14070 D (G))
19 Dec 16 UTC
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I think gunboat games in general are a foundation for how to understand the mechanics of the game and the strategic considerations involved with each moves - lessons that may be harder to learn in press games actually.

What I mean is this - in a gunboat game, nobody can sound alarm bells about solo potential, and it is really difficult to coordinate with other players beyond very simple moves. You also have to play in such a way that your lines can't be penetrated by sneaky plays, and you always feel vulnerable to powerful stabs and have to avoid those situations from existing (and conversely, you learn how to spot opportunities for powerful moves).

In press games, I think especially newer players focus so much on building a good relationship with the other players and the dealmaking aspect to the game that they find it easy to overlook the OBJECTIVE situation - the situation that exists on the map, that has nothing to do with how the players are thinking. As a result, they walk into traps.

Gunboat teaches you the "realpolitik" understanding of the game that is supposedly the foundation of the game in general.

I think I have taken lessons learned from Gunboat games about the objective meanings of each tactical and strategic situation into press games in a way that made me a much more savvy player.
Gunboats also taught me about the power of an unexpected move. In press games, you can get a much better sense of what the other players might do, and even perfectly coordinate all your moves sometimes. You can do shit that doesn't exist in gunboat games like multi-player convoys.

But in a gunboat game, you just have to guess what the average player might do, or if you have a read on someone what that particular player might do, and so as a result, making a move that other players would never expect or account for can be really powerful, - moves that would be easy to counter, but only if predicted correctly.

Then, in press games, although it is easier to predict moves in some ways because of the communication, it is also possible to make really crazy moves when you coordinate with an ally - moves that don't even exist in gunboat games. Sometimes, these moves are extremely powerful because other players would never anticipate them (and thus counter them). Playing gunboat games really highlighted for me what kind of moves those might be.
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
03 Jan 17 UTC
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anyone up for a gunboat game?
curupira (3491 D)
04 Jan 17 UTC
I have already seen multiple convoy in gunboat games.
It is required that the unit to be convoyed order the move one season before.
curupira (3491 D)
04 Jan 17 UTC
In a way the other player can know the intended move.
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
04 Jan 17 UTC
its great when you can get an alliance that works but horrible when the 'stab' comes.
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
04 Jan 17 UTC
i may not 'like' you, but i would love to play against or with you in a diplomacy game!
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
04 Jan 17 UTC
Hey, Peregrine Falcon i would love to play in a game with you and your friends!
Peregrine Falcon (2099 D (S))
04 Jan 17 UTC
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Wait... I have friends?
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
04 Jan 17 UTC
I don't know if going out on a limb saying we are friends, PF, is justified here. That being said, i am open to the possibility.
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
04 Jan 17 UTC
anyone up for a gunboat game?
Nah, I don't think that's really justified, CAPTBrad. We haven't even ever played a game together.
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
04 Jan 17 UTC
Well PF, you can change that here: gameID=188072
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
04 Jan 17 UTC
anyone up for a gunboat game?
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
05 Jan 17 UTC
anyone up for a gunboat game?
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
05 Jan 17 UTC
Gunboat anyone?
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
05 Jan 17 UTC
Gunboat anyone?
DammmmDaniel (90 D)
05 Jan 17 UTC
Maybe if we hid He will go away
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
05 Jan 17 UTC
I'm looking for my friends to come over to VIENNA and share some Bon Bon's on the duvet. Any takers?
slypups (1889 D)
06 Jan 17 UTC
Need to build better AI's for gunboat players - it can be done. Not a fan of losing the diplomacy part of Diplomacy myself. And when players behave like idiots and I just want to scream at them I have no recourse in gunboat - you know, when someone is clearly going solo with 1/3 of the SCs, but they're more interested in building up their 1/6 share by trying to take out your 1/6 share - because that always works...never.
WolfpackCorey (1654 D)
06 Jan 17 UTC
Slypups you are very right.

The best games are when it's a press game, you yell at them, and they still don't care.

A lot of highly ranked peeps in this thread!
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
06 Jan 17 UTC
peeps indeed!
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
07 Jan 17 UTC
i am looking to start another long term gunboat game if there are any takers
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
09 Jan 17 UTC
So I stop making up games and the gunboats dry up. I think the one one ones have dried up the pool of live players
Ezio (1736 D)
09 Jan 17 UTC
so keep making them!
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
09 Jan 17 UTC
thank you Ezio, i will
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
10 Jan 17 UTC
That last one was fun here is a new one: gameID=188677
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
10 Jan 17 UTC
of course when i make a game for ezio, he complains about it: http://webdiplomacy.net/forum.php?threadID=1436966#1436966
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
10 Jan 17 UTC
Sitting in a jurors waiting room to see if I am called to be on one
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
21 Jan 17 UTC
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I have modified my outlook in diplomacy. i now am engaged in many long term games often appearing unexpectedly in them taking over for a departed player.
Playing: 23 Civil disorders taken over: 44
eturnage (500 D (B))
22 Jan 17 UTC
Live gunboat also prepares you for ftf tournaments. You have to calculate your tactics and write your orders quickly. That's a skill that doesn't translate from online to ftf ... UNLESS you play the live gunboats.
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
22 Jan 17 UTC
Its funny i am beginning to like the long term games that are non anon better
CptMike (4384 D)
22 Jan 17 UTC
@CAPT Brad: that just means you like challenges and innovative things :-)
CAPT Brad (40 D X)
22 Jan 17 UTC
True that


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Chumbles (898 D (S))
22 Jan 17 UTC
Only one needed: gunboat, ancmed
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=189485
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Valis2501 (2900 D (G))
19 Jan 17 UTC
F2F Tournament in MA, USA
As above, below
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Peregrine Falcon (2099 D (S))
21 Jan 17 UTC
Friends Game
I'm looking for three more people to join me and three friends for a game. We'll keep the meta gaming to a minimum. Post here or message me if you're interested.
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King Of Avalon (10 D X)
20 Jan 17 UTC
Hello i am new
How do i play i need help
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oliveskin (100 D X)
20 Jan 17 UTC
Canceling CDs in live games
Thoughts to follow (my phone isn't letting me both type everything and post as well lol)
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Halls of Mandos (1139 D)
19 Jan 17 UTC
Another clarifying thread...
A unit can cut support if it itself is only tapped as well, but it does NOT cut support if it is dislodged by two completely different units, right?
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indigo93 (100 D)
19 Jan 17 UTC
Issue with Denmark Capture
Game id 189248

I am Germany and had has a unit in Denmark at multiple points this game, yet the map color has not changed and I gave not
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pastoralan (100 D)
18 Jan 17 UTC
Convoy confusion
Can a fleet convoy an army and also provide support to another unit?

Paraphrase: have I been playing this game wrong for the last 20 years?
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fourofswords (447 D)
15 Jan 17 UTC
new world 901
Why isn't New World 901 on the list of games that can be created?
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slypups (1889 D)
14 Jan 17 UTC
Worst possible 1v1 matchup
What would be the most unbalanced 1v1 matchup possible on the Classic board? I could see England v Russia being awful for England, especially with Russia enjoying 4 builds/turn.
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Ezio (1736 D)
18 Jan 17 UTC
Highest stakes live game
What is the highest stakes live game ever on the site?
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Ezio (1736 D)
15 Jan 17 UTC
Ethics
If someone admits they only want to ally with you for meta reasons, are you ethically forced to attack them?
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brainbomb (325 D)
17 Jan 17 UTC
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Selena Gomez vs. a Hot platter of Hush puppies and Fried Catfish
Is there an afterlife? Or is there reall just a giant reality tv orb that floats above Ariana Grande's feet.
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Merirosvo (302 D)
13 Jan 17 UTC
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Scoring System Proposal
I don't know if this has been suggested but:
1. If there is a winner they get the whole pot
2. If there is a draw, it's always a seven* way draw regardless of elimination.
*Or however many
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jmo1121109 (3812 D Mod)
16 Jan 17 UTC
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Congratulations Zultar
On winning the first 1 vs 1 game ever made (paused till now) on this site (gameID=187512).
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leon1122 (190 D)
15 Jan 17 UTC
Rule Question
Can you support an enemy unit to attack your own unit?
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WyattS14 (100 D (B))
15 Jan 17 UTC
Med Game
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=189125 This game is with 2 other friends of mine, and we couldn't get a full group together. We are in no way metagaming. The password is lollol
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WyattS14 (100 D (B))
15 Jan 17 UTC
Posting password games in forum?
Was wondering if I could post a game's password I'm playing with two other friends in the forum? Two others couldn't join last minute
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Matticus13 (2999 D)
12 Jan 17 UTC
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Best way to learn code
I want to learn how to code, but am having trouble deciding where to start. Their are many free resources, online classes, boot camps, etc. I would prefer to teach myself, but lack the knowledge to know what language I should be learning first and so on. Any tips from the experienced code writers here on WebDip?
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taos (281 D)
15 Jan 17 UTC
what happens when to fleets convoy the same army to the same point?
?
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snowy801 (591 D)
15 Jan 17 UTC
Stalemate Gaming
Is there a rule against holding a stalemate indefinitely even though the situation is clear? I think he's hoping the rest of us give up and leave, which if it isn't against the rules yet then it should be.

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=189100
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CAPT Brad (40 D X)
01 Jan 17 UTC
The Captain Will See You Now
I am starting my first long term gameID=187773 PM me for the password. It is one day turns and requires an eighty for reliability.
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zultar (4180 D Mod (P))
12 Jan 17 UTC
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Removing Known World and Keeping World
See inside.
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CommanderByron (863 D (S))
04 Jan 17 UTC
PPSC discussion thread:
I don't particularly care for PPSC. But saw that another thread was having this discussion as a sidebar and thought it fair to start a discussion thread. There is reasonable support for PPSC and regardless of the majority opinion the minority's should be heard.
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Jamiet99uk (795 D)
13 Jan 17 UTC
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Abolish Sum-Of-Squares scoring
Ok, so I understand some people don't like PPSC and don't want it back. I disagree. BUT let's talk about SOS instead. It's a terrible scoring system and is directly contrary to the rulebook.
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CptMike (4384 D)
14 Jan 17 UTC
New varant porposal -> µVariant
I was wondering if the following Variant was not "easy" to develop and it brings a crazy number of exciting possibilities...
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Sandman99 (100 D)
12 Jan 17 UTC
Where my Libertarians at?
Just wondering if I have any fellow Libertarians on this god-forsaken website
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VashtaNeurotic (2394 D)
13 Jan 17 UTC
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New Scoring System Proposal
I don’t know if this has been suggested but:
1. In draws have everyone alive share the pot equally (As they should because SoS is garbage)
2. In a solo, the soloist gains a portion of the pot equal to 18* divided by the number of centers controlled by the soloist or survivors (but not neutral centers or those of resigned powers) and the survivors split the remainder proportionally based on their center count.
*Or however many
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