I'm thinking darg is scum. And if he is, it's likely Rd is scum with him... Because Rd nailed him so hard last time but didn't react much to similar behaviour this game.

@DO - How would you read Arj if Rd flipped scum?

Rd might flip scum and still tell the truth but we definitely can't just buy it.

@HR - I like the idea of your hooker analysis, but I don't think that's an accurate list of the unclears under the most pressure. I'll read over Ezio/Flum/Teacon when I can.

Flum - "@Demon
Ezio is town because he's doing a really good job of seeming like a clueless Townie. I really struggle to see him being on a scum team."

Could you elaborate on why he seems like a clueless townie?

I don't think rd flipping scum would have any indication on arj.

If rd is scum and arj is scum, rd would say arj scanned town
If rd is scum and arj is town, rd would say arj scanned town (because we would have lynched arj and found out rd was lying)

Fluminator interactions with Xorxes -

Flum with Xorxes:
Starts scumreading Xorxes around middle of day 3 and scumreads him at EON. "Xorxes is throwing me off with his HR push. HR has to be scum or something is not right in this world, but this doesn't seem like a bus but xorxes is scummy." on pg140, but goes back to scumreading him and votes him fairly easily near EOD. Xorxes never really mentions his opinion on Flum, which is somewhat suspicious, but he didn't appear to be very engaged and I like Flum's interactions with him.

Tom/Ezio to come

@tom it would. If RD flips town, there's a roughly 100% chance arj is town. RD flipping scum lowers the chance arj is town.

@Tom - rd is town and arj scanned as town :-)
More seriously, I know I am town and I got an inno scan on him, so it´s hard not to treat him as an almost clear (he can´t still be Godfather, but really unlikely).

@DO - I am reading Dargo as scum since N2,after he changed his bahaviour, but he is not playing the same way as on Discord, he only did that at D1, buddying bb like he tryied to do with you there. After D1 he just went into lurking mode, so it´s hard to be sure with so many lurkers. And I would not mind lynching him instead of Teacon today as I am pretty sure he is scum and not the Traitor, so we have 1/3 to hit the Hooker.

@Ezio : Rd flipping scum would have no implications on arj, if rd is town obviously agh is as well. I was doing the scenario if rd flipped scum.

Why obviously? There's still a chance for a godfather. Especially since we have an investigative role

I can't imagine Rdrivera would take a risk lying about arj if arj is mafia - they had no idea if there was a Role Investigator as well at that point in time, after all. The only way I can see arj as scum is if he's the godfather; regardless of the alignment of rdrivera.

RHK seems to be trying to tie with teacon in terms of effort in the game.

Ezio with Xorx - agrees with Xorxes on pg13 and pg70 on Moscow/Balki and shot timing. On pg129, he says "Xorxes is in both because I'm reading him as both. He's made statements that I absolutely agree with, and I think he's been net pro town. My problem is I think he's even better than that, and he's been trying to string us along by contributing as little as possible to avoid getting scumread, while still being seen as townie." This is his first read on Xorxes.

He scumreads Xorxes on pg141, pg154, and pg158 (twice).

After Maniac flips, though, he doesn't switch to Xorxes, instead pushing a lynch-a-lurker idea without Xorxes and saying most of his case was on a Xorxes-Maniac connection (it wasn't really? he lays out a lot of other reasons), so definitely suspicious.

He also says at one point something like "If Xorxes flips scum that would implicate me as well", which is a point in his favor - I don't think scum-Ezio would say that. He also interacted a lot with Xorxes, which feels interesting. There's a lot of negative evidence though.

Xorxes maintains a slight scumread on Ezio for much of the game, which disappears after Maniac flips town. Not really that alignment-indicative.

Interactions with Xorx: (PS, it's annoying to format posts on this forum. I’ll break these posts up.)
(PPS, searching for everytime RD was mentioned was annoying. He needs a better nickname.)

First interaction between them (and first time the two mention each other) was near the end of night 2, right before the nightkill.
RD: "Done working. Are we posting reads? I didnn´t have much time to organize mine and almost half players are null to me."
Xorx: "Do you expect to die rd?"
Rd: "Not really, but you never know, I got nightkilled D1 in my two discord games. I think reads are a good tool if most people gave it, but until know only Kaka seems to be willing to post."
Don't know what to make of it.
Rd's N2 reads mention xorx as scummy. He repeats being suspicious in day 3 once, and relists him as scummy in N4 for the same reason. "Scummy. I usually find xorxes a great town player, but this time he is doing almost nothing, so he could be a lurking scum. No reads, no deep analisys."
Night 3 xorx mentions rd as one of his scum candidates "for not paying attention when he had crucial infromation and almost causing the loss of the Oracle."
Day 4 and 5 rd mentions numerous times he suspects xorx and saying things like he'd be a good gun shot target.
Xorx asks him (along with me) to summarize our reasons for scum reading him.

Final verdict: These interactions for the most part make me think Rd is more likely town.

@Dargorygel - you mention on pg17 that Teacon7 "is more clever than to simply repeat his huge lurking scum trick". Why don't you think that any more?

Dargoyle:
He almost never mentioned xorxes. The first post he made mentioning him was
"# vote xorxes. I still think ezio is scum. But that train is sleeping. Xor is also on my scum read list." right when he was getting lynched which is out of the blue considering he never mentioned him.
Xorx first mention of darg is asking him a clarification question on page 54 but then saying "nm, figured it out". Not really noteworthy. He mentions darg in some analysis posts, but nothing ever specific to darg.

Verdict: No interactions between either of them the whole game. Suspect level moderate.

DemonRHK:
His mentions of xorx were usually in his eon reads.
N1: "xorxes - SLIGHT TOWN: @us Supremus - Wasn't really around, and didn't have much when he was, but I expect a scum/3rd xorx to be more active at EoD."
I don't really understand any of that and it looks scummy on it's own but there's probably context I'm missing.
N2: “Null - Xorx isn't hunting, he's commentating. He's at least participating, but not by much.”
N3: “xorxes - Null - Making cases, but is never around long enough to actually push the damn case.”
N4: “xorxes - Slight Scum - Not around enough, just doing enough not to get modkilled”

Interaction 1:
RHK: "Given that ghug is seeming cleared by a oracle dream, what do your scumreads look like now?"
Xorx: "I took ghug off my list. Vecna is climbing up the list because of his voting bb and his argument with rdrivera."

xorx also tells him the night he had the gun “@RHK, you have to shoot tonight in case they nightkill you.” (lol, everything xorx says now looks so scummy in hindsight)

RHK votes xorx the day he’s lynched: “#Vote xorx, I'm fine with this scumread swinging.”
Xorx mentions RHK when brain jokeclaimed rolecop with a guilty on RHK. “@bb, if you're role investigator, what's RHK's role? (Don't tell us Ezio's role.)”

The day he got lynched he voted RHK when his wagon was sizing up before it looked like xorx would get lynched. (despite RHK being on the townier end of his spectrum) before voting llama. Which is interesting. That would imply RHK is either town or a role less important to scum.
(Maniac > teacon > Fluminator > Ezio > DL > dargo > rdrivera > Tom Bombadil > RHK > arj > xorxes) was his spectrum

Verdict: No smoking gun. No good town tells either from RHK. Xorx'es treatment of RHK implies town actually, but it's not enough to change my read on him.

RHK waiting till night to shoot gun makes so much sense as scum that just didn't make sense to me as town. He was obviously just fucking asking his squad what to do with it.

TomBomb to Xorxes - pg125, he gives Xorxes a "slight scum" read and backs it up with decent reasoning. On pg129 after Xorxes picks up on Ezio listing him twice in reads, he asks Xorxes why he did so and suspects Ezio. He later adds "I wouldn't be surprised if Maniac, Ezio and xorxes are all scum." Switches fairly naturally to Xorxes afterwards.

Xorxes fairly consistently townreads Tom Bombadil until N4, where he becomes a nullread (?). Nothing too suspicious here. Something to note is that Tom Bombadil didn't even mention Xorxes before D3.

Any town would seek advice from his or her fellow town. This is ridiculous, how did we even let him get this far.

Tom Bombadil
Tom doesn’t mention xorx until N3 reads.
“Xorxes: slight scum – asks questions but then doesn’t seem to follow up on them. Feels like asking questions to ask questions rather than asking questions to get information. If I recall he asked Ike a question then didn’t particularly care about he answer. Also said he would relook at Moscow, and only posted two shallow observations shortly after.”
Which seems quite genuine. Like those are really good reasons.

Xorx mentions tom a couple times.
“Tom B. thinks bb's comment about the game being biased against Mafia is scummy, but then he says he thinks it was an innocent observation?”
“@Tom, I agree. The only way Balki is scum is if Glen or Ezio are scum as well.”
Xorx apparently reread Tom and said “I didn't find anything particularly scummy about Tom B.” on day 3.

Night 3 read xorx had: “Tom Bombadil: I did a full read of him yesterday and I couldn't find anything that struck me as scummy.” (so much for the first comment he made on Tom. Man, it’s so obvious in hindsight).

Xorx doesn’t really mention him for the rest of the game.
When xorx asked Ezio about listing his name twice, Tom responded with: “Seemed like it would have been better to see how far he may slip xorxes... were you there so quick to stop the bleeding and point it out to him? I would have liked to see if he even knew he listed twice. Too bad you pointed it out for him...”
And actually for the rest of the game Tom actually does a pretty good and genuine sounding push on xorx. One that didn’t look like bussing.

Verdict: I may have been wrong on Tom. Tom’s side of the interactions were really good and townie looking. Xorx throwing shade right off the bat, but then townreading Tom for the rest of the game was a little weird, but that might just be scum xorx messing up and not be something related to Tom’s alignment.

I wonder if xorx would have brought to light or noticed so fast that Ezio listed him twice in his reads if Ezio was his scum partner.

Like it was within a minute. I don't think he'd be paying so close attention to a scum partner's reads.

There is no way RHK isn't scum. So that's another down.

HR: "I'll upload a picture of myself eating a shoe if there's not at least one other mafia in DL8/Ezio/Flum/rdrivera"

A scum team of teacon, RHK, dargo, and Tom is still very possible so don't think I've forgotten this. Although I'm wondering if Rdrivera may be scum after all.

@rdrivera

Just what has changed about darg's behaviour since N2?

@Fluminator
I have plenty shoes; but I don't believe they'll need eating.

Interesting point on xorxes/Ezio though. The speed of the reaction could indeed be xorxes looking to start more pressure on a town Ezio.

@HR - He changed behaviour from D1 to D2.
D1 he was all around, buddying bb and pushing people. He posted 41 messages (7th of 26), pressured and voted Mos, Maniac, Mos again, Kak and ended on Ezio.
D2 he get into lurking mode: 9 messages, voted on Ezio then on Kak with 24 hours to go and stayed on Kak. And this was his behaviour since D2.
I suspect he got some advice N1 from his scum mates to stay under the radar.

VOTE COUNT 6.1

teacon7 (4) - Hellenic Riot, Fluminator, Rdrivera2008, dargorygel
dargorygel (2) - Tom Bombadil, DemonOverlord
Ezio (1) - DeathLlama8

Currently TEACON7 is set to be lynched.

You have 24 HOURS and a few minutes remaining in Day 6.

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arj11, Ezio, DemonRHK, Kakarroto, and teacon7 still need to vote.
DemonRHK, Kakarroto, and teacon7 still need to post.