least valuable player

Krellin, if there are two mafia members, we have two lynches left regardless. Not lynching doesn't lose us a lynch.

Brain, we can vote no lynch. We don't have to force a tie.

8 players:
2 mafia scenario with No Lynch:
6-2 No Lynch, NK, possible death of PR
5 - 2 Mislynch, NK
3-2 Lynch to win or lose

2 mafia scenario with Lynch:
6-2 Lynch, NK
4 - 2 Lynch to win or lose
3-2 Lynch to win or lose


3 mafia scenario No Lynch
5-3 No lynch, NK
4-3 Lynch to win or lose

3 mafia scenario with Lynch today
5-3 lynch, NK
Lynch is to win or lose.


The only difference in No Lynch is by waiting a day the % of mafia in town when you DO lynch is higher, meaning they have MORE influence.

It's a total shit strategy, MEANT TO FAVOR THE MAFIA

8 players:
2 mafia scenario with No Lynch:
6-2 (Mafia is 25%)No Lynch, NK, possible death of PR
5 - 2 (Mafia is 28%) Mislynch, NK
3-2 (Mafia is 40%) Lynch to win or lose

2 mafia scenario with Lynch:
6-2 (Mafia is 25%) Lynch, NK
4 - 2 (Mafia is 33%) Lynch to win or lose
3-2 Lynch to win or lose


3 mafia scenario No Lynch
5-3 No lynch, NK
4-3 Lynch to win or lose

3 mafia scenario with Lynch today
5-3 lynch, NK
Lynch is to win or lose.



You can do the math for the second pair of scenarios, but the math is obvious -- if you wait to vote, then you INCREASE THE ODDS for the mafia in that vote.

This is a scum strategy TOTALLY.

I must concur with krellin, my attacker.

Haven't attacked you in a while, Lurky McLurker

But -1 Scum notch for you Reedsy

you attacked me in the last hour... I consider that recently, and considering in game days are 48 of our hours, that 30 in game minutes...

oh, sorry I read that as a +1 not -1. either way...

Krellin, there's no 3-2 case if we lynch every day. It goes from 4-2 to loss. You're absolutely right that the downside is that the mafia have more sway, so the question is whether the information gain from having fewer options is worth it.

I really think the Amnesiac should claim if he's joined the town. It gives us a PR to follow for the lynch and tells us how many mafia there are.

ghug that was a copy paste error...the line above it clearly says lynch to win or lose.

Regardless.... THE MATH IS THERE...it's riskier to not lynch because it empowers the mafia.

And how is the Amnesiac claiming going to make a difference?? Either way, it DECREASING town power to not lynch today.

Are you actually trying to locate the PR??? lol Wow....just wow....

Krellin, if we're at MYLO, whether today or tomorrow, every townie needs to vote together or we will lose. It's that simple.

If I'm mafia right now, I'm sitting back watching everyone fail to reach consensus and laughing my ass off. The amnesiac claiming would give us someone to follow, confirm that there are only two mafia, and would in all likelihood be the bomb, meaning that they couldn't kill him if they wanted to. Even if he weren't the bomb, we'd have another PR ready to claim later and continue to lead the town.

giveing the mafia a confirmed pr kill...

Mafia XVII Day Six Official Vote Count 2.0

Vecna (1): ND
guak (3): krellin, reedeer1, ghug
krellin (1): Vecna
captainmeme (1): brainbomb
ghug (1): guak

Not voted (1): captainmeme

Currently GUAK is set to be lynched.

You have 23 hours and 20 minutes remaining.

Okay ND. Ive reread the cases. Its almost impossible for Vecna to be Mafia unless he was Lawyer or a role other than Janitor. So you are a blithering idiot. If its a fake clickbait wagon its an absolute waste of our time and you ought to be ashamed filling up space woth huge novellas on a guy whos least likely now to be scum out of 8 ppl alive.
##VOTE ND

If you have a better explanation and are just baiting mafia to vote for him let me just say no town or mafia is going to follow your ludicrous wagon to nowhere. Tell everyone what role you really think Vecna could possibly be if thats true.

I dont believe it. Its too idiotic even y2k said he roleblocked him by accident while drunk. Is Vecna truly the scummiest person alive in the game? Is that really your vote you plan to End the day on with all these other dangers out there?

You call me the least valuable player alive, you fearfully squandered votes twice now to avoid animosity.

ND, do you plan to leave your vote on Vecna at EoD again even if nobody else is voting for him?

I'll vote for bb or vecna that's my current plan although I hope others take a look at my vecna PT 2 case

Alright, what if neither is on the block?

@ghug "Krellin, if we're at MYLO, whether today or tomorrow, every townie needs to vote together or we will lose. It's that simple."

Yeah.... NOT true. There is MORE of a margin of error with more townie alive.

Damn yoy are being super scummy. You are smarter then this... Why are you lying about the odds?

https://youtu.be/F3o-DZQFKB8

by the way krellin. you got reeedeer1 so far up your ass sheeping you I feel like this game has become a trailer for human centipede 4.

For a guy you said was the worst player ever youve suddenly happily added him to your voting bloc.

I haven't fine shit with Reeder. I'd GLADLY vote for him if it for traction. He's still super high scum on my list.

The one reason I am considering ALL options and poking EVERYONE is because we need to examine people and get this right.

Bit all I see in this town is:

1. Lurkers with minimal input
2. Active players with no interest in examining everyone beside they pretend to have or figure out.... Or know EXACTLY what they are doing.....<cue sinister music...>

@Ghug: I will be pushing my cases. We are too close to myol for me not to try and get one of my top scumreads lynched.

Yea were too close to "myol". You should have used the word "myopic".

@krellin bullshit. why the hell are you everyones friend today?