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Nikola Maric Eto (24945 D)
08 Mar 16 UTC
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How weak you have to be...
to attack Trieste in spring '01?
27 replies
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DammmmDaniel (100 D)
09 Mar 16 UTC
NEW GAME
Sup guys! new game please join here ASAP http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=175756
Fun modern diplomacy map!!!!
0 replies
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jpuhrer (369 D)
06 Mar 16 UTC
Civil Disorder - How many un-sumitted orders until Civil Disorder
I'm currently playing a 20-hour/phase game in which I've seen two players not submit orders for over 5 seasons as well as the retreats and disbands. Really slows the game if the player has left the game. When does Civil Disorder take over and moves are made automatically?

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Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
07 Mar 16 UTC
The Free Takeover Experiment has Failed
The Free Takeover Experiment has Failed
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
07 Mar 16 UTC
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webDip Dev Team:

The experiement with setting takeover costs to zero webDip points has failed. Please set it back to the current calculated EV of the position.

There are too many new and inexperienced players jumping into games that are way beyond their experience and skill. No offense to the newbies, but they really wreck games that might otherwise be salvageable. They also ruin their own reliability ratings when they start CDing because they can't compete.

END IT NOW.

Thanks.
brainbomb (325 D)
07 Mar 16 UTC
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Completely disagree. in fact you should pay people ACTUAL money to takeover CD's. I am the Janitor of webdip literally. I clean up games everywhere.
biophil (773 D)
07 Mar 16 UTC
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Isn't the obvious answer here to have an option when creating a game whether of not to allow free takeovers? Or even whether or not to allow takeovers at all?
TrPrado (461 D Mod)
07 Mar 16 UTC
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Or passwords. Passwords could also help. The mods should see about allowing players to put passwords on games.
brainbomb (325 D)
07 Mar 16 UTC
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lol
brainbomb (325 D)
07 Mar 16 UTC
(+1)
I am 100% in favor of passwording games ™.
c0dyz (100 D)
07 Mar 16 UTC
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I think what we need to do is stop the root cause of this problem, which is people CD'ing. Email notifications, an app for peoples phones, in site notifications etc. are some ways this could be minimized.
c0dyz (100 D)
07 Mar 16 UTC
By email notifications I mean like, the site will send you an email an hour before the game phases or something along those lines.
A_Tin_Can (2244 D)
07 Mar 16 UTC
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email notifications are on the todo list, but unfortunately it's quite a bit of work.
Yigg (2451 D)
07 Mar 16 UTC
While I understand that one of the main ideas behind free takeovers is to fill empty seats, Jeff has the very valid point of this unintended consequence. I also think biophil is onto something there with an effective solution to help prevent this from happening in higher tier games while maintaining the original intent.
TrPrado (461 D Mod)
07 Mar 16 UTC
"Email notifications, an app for peoples phones, in site notifications etc. are some ways this could be minimized."
I can assure you there are already in site notifications.
c0dyz (100 D)
07 Mar 16 UTC
@trprado I mean actual notifications, like with Facebook on Chrome
orathaic (1009 D (B))
07 Mar 16 UTC
Email notifications should be for after you've missed a deadline, not every fricking hour before a deadline...

c0dyz (100 D)
08 Mar 16 UTC
If the email notification comes after you miss a deadline what's the point? They should be there to stop people from missing deadlines.
JECE (1322 D)
08 Mar 16 UTC
If the consensus is that this experiment has failed, then a major argument for PPSC resurfaces.
CommanderByron (863 D (S))
08 Mar 16 UTC
Once the RR is figured out (as right now as I understand it it isn't in it's final form) why don't we tie takeovers to RR. So you can not takeover a game unless you have the RR the game was originally made with or an RR of 70% (whichever is higher). This would mean players can only takeover if they have 70% RR, and I know we do not like to hear it but compensation should be given to incentivize not only the taking over but the play through of CD nations. Even if that incentive is 1/2 the bet needed to play the game, the player should receive that much after the game ends if they do not NMR or CD. Example: England CDs in a 50 point buy-in , no RR gate game. a player possessing 70% RR takes over England for free; no matter what the outcome that player will receive 25 D. The points will be allocated from the nether and not come from the pot the other players are playing for. If the player plays through til the end and is included in a draw he will receive either his portion of the pot or his takeover compensation (whichever is higher). In the example with england, he gets included in a 3 way draw, he would receive the 116 D he earned and forfeit his 25 point takeover reward
i dont see that email reminders will solve this problem. If you have your smartphone, you should be setting a reminder - how is an email better than that?
If you don't have a smartphone, how is an email going to help?!
Am I missing something?
A_Tin_Can (2244 D)
08 Mar 16 UTC
The numbers don't show this experiment as a failure. However, the point about high lot public games is a good one. Perhaps takeovers should be free, but you should *have* the points necessary to join the game?
leon1122 (190 D)
08 Mar 16 UTC
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I agree with brainbomb. Players need to be paid to take over CDs.

Byron, new players have 100% RR. I would not want them in my games. I'd prefer a 10 games completed bar or something similar.
TrPrado (461 D Mod)
08 Mar 16 UTC
Or maybe when the ratings get integrated there can be a threshold minimum rating possible to get in the game as a feature? Of course, there's still a decent amount of work to get done for the first part, and that kind of threshold might take a little longer.
CommanderByron (863 D (S))
08 Mar 16 UTC
Formal proposal: After a CD is adjudicated, the community will be able to takeover the position at no cost so long as their RR is at least 70% or equal to the RR gate set-up by the initial player (whichever is higher). The player taking over a position will be compensated upon elimination or survival (so long as they do not NMR or CD) one half of the initial bet the others players committed, this compensation will not be levied from the pot and instead will be contributed from the site itself. If a player taking over a position is involved in a draw or victory he will be rewarded the portion of the pot as dictated by the game-type, or his takeover compensation (whichever is higher). Examples A-B will describe the situation based on a classic game with a 60% RR gate and 20 point buy-in using SoS rules.

Example A: England CDs and is taken over by Player A, who possess a 70% RR. Player A faithfully plays his position through until his eventual elimination. Because Player A faithfully fulfilled his obligation as a takeover, he is rewarded one half of the initial bet for the game (20) and receives 10 D.

Example B: England CDs and is taken over by Player A who possess an 80% RR. Player A plays faithfully and is included in the draw. after the game calculates his earnings player A would receive 12 D from the pot. Since his reward for taking over the position would only be 10 D player A is receives his 12 point share of the pot and forfeits his 10 point take over compensation.

All taken over positions will not count toward your GR and only solo victories and draws will be included in your stats.


CommanderByron (863 D (S))
08 Mar 16 UTC
@leon - I am recollection of a thread in which RR was discussed and many proposed and supported a X number of games before RR was calculated method. I assume that such a popular request would be included with the next update of RR and thus am assuming that with a more concrete RR system my above proposal would be sound.
A_Tin_Can (2244 D)
08 Mar 16 UTC
We don't have a shortage of ideas about RR- we have a shortage of hours to implement them.

New player who have never played any games don't have 100% RR. Only when they have played some turns do they start getting a RR. It actually starts at 1%, to prevent players with no information joining RR-gated games.
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
08 Mar 16 UTC
It depends on what numbers you are looking at and what you define as a failure. Clearly, with no cost, more people will be available to takeover games. I can also see where adding to the pot is not necessarily enticing to someone. Now that all solos end in WTA, there is little point in growing the total.

I like ATC's proposal. You can only takeover a game if you have the points it would have taken to do so, but the cost is free. That puts a reasonable barrier to entry so that newbies don't get in over their heads.
biophil (773 D)
08 Mar 16 UTC
I think ATC's proposal is fantastic. Keeps the riff raff out of high quality games, but doesn't hurt anything for us little folk further down the ladder.


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Hyperion (998 D)
07 Mar 16 UTC
Sengoku, Rise of Shogun Ad
A variant based on vdiplomacy:
http://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=25843
Looking for players to join!
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Frenchmontana (20 D X)
06 Mar 16 UTC
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what does the draw vote do
5 replies
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redhouse1938 (429 D)
25 Feb 16 UTC
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The United States have gone completely mad.
Hey guys, it's redhouse, it's been a while.
Just so you know: the US have gone completely mad. If you have Donald "bleeding from wherever" Trump heading the major right wing race and Mitch "Constitution? What's a constitution?" McConnell heading the senate, something is wrong.
Very, very, very wrong.
76 replies
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Sevyas (869 D)
03 Mar 16 UTC
Slow game for reliable players
Details inside
23 replies
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Smokey Gem (154 D)
07 Mar 16 UTC
Convoys Caucus to Kazakstan
Is there a way we can ask the mods/devs why in Modern Dip you can't convoy and army via Caspian sea Caucus to Kazakstan ??
5 replies
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kasimax (243 D)
02 Mar 16 UTC
3 gunboat games
25 buy-in each, 48 hour-phases (readying up appreciated), dss, public draws, high rr.
16 replies
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Yoyoyozo (182 D)
04 Mar 16 UTC
Can you 1 way draw?
Scenario: 9 days from now when the "Clark is a skrub" live game begins.
everyone but you CDs, but you, being so valiant and gentlemanly, puts up the draw vote. When the CDs are adjudicated, Do you solo? or Draw?
11 replies
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domwnec (254 D)
06 Mar 16 UTC
Gunboat signals
Are there common signals in gunboat? For example, does a support move indicate "I want u to move there" while a support hold indicates "I want u to stay there" while an attempted movement indicates "I want u to support me there"???
6 replies
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Powow (679 D)
06 Mar 16 UTC
Join Game
Need 2 players to join
2 replies
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brainbomb (325 D)
05 Mar 16 UTC
Tea vs. Coffee
So I have decided that its really hard to choose between the two. I drink probably about 6 cups of coffee a day using Keurig. But then I also use herbal peach tea and scottish breakfast tea for when I get bored with the coffee. In all I likely drink about 12-15 cups of something hot and thought provoking a day.
24 replies
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Maniac (189 D (B))
04 Mar 16 UTC
Mafia Town Strategy
Sharing best practice.
33 replies
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c0dyz (100 D)
05 Mar 16 UTC
Play styles
What is your play style?
8 replies
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c0dyz (100 D)
04 Mar 16 UTC
Predictions
Any predictions on the outcome of this game? It is pretty deadlocked, and Turkey will not draw. gameID=174854
12 replies
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JEccles (421 D)
04 Mar 16 UTC
Gunboat Strategy
What is the best way to open as Turkey in a gunboat? I can't figure it out.
25 replies
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Chaqa (4231 D (B))
02 Mar 16 UTC
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The King is Dead!
Been awhile since we did one of these. Now that we have unraked games, it will be much easier to run one.
46 replies
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bo_sox48 (5202 D Mod (G))
15 Feb 16 UTC
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Daily "endless drivel" Thread
Post your endless drivel here and only here.
86 replies
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CommanderByron (863 D (S))
01 Mar 16 UTC
Oh no!
Ah! The end is near! We dip has ceased processing games. Our lord Zultar, praise be onto to his, has fallen and thus our glorious servers have fallen. If prophecy should predict, then Zultar will rise from the ashes of his former self and restart our servers.
#kestas didn't pay the electric bill
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perezmanda29 (0 D X)
04 Mar 16 UTC
Buy Registered IELTS & TOEFL, ESOL certificates without attending the Exam.
Buy Registered IELTS & TOEFL, ESOL certificates without attending the Exam.
Email : romeoporto1 @ gmail.com
skype: romeoporto2
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perezmanda29 (0 D X)
04 Mar 16 UTC
registered TOEFL, IELTS, ESOL, CELTA/DELTA & other English Language Certificates.
We deal and specialize in the production of registered TOEFL, IELTS, ESOL, CELTA/DELTA & other English Language Certificates.
Email : romeoporto1 @ gmail.com
skype: romeoporto2
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perezmanda29 (0 D X)
04 Mar 16 UTC
Buy your Passports, Driver license,ID cards,Visa,green card, credit cards and many more
Buy your Passports, Driver license,ID cards,Visa,green card, credit cards and many more
Email : romeoporto1 @ gmail.com
skype: romeoporto2
4 replies
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Bob Genghiskhan (1258 D)
03 Mar 16 UTC
Trench warfare...yaaaay! participants.
Hey y'all, replacement Austria here, good game.
11 replies
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Yoyoyozo (182 D)
03 Mar 16 UTC
WHo was in that live game that just got canceled?
I can't stop laughing!!!!! I put in like 2 hours into that game, and then it just randomly canceled? Who was in it?
5 replies
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Flame (100 D)
03 Mar 16 UTC
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For Russian Speaking players
For Russian Speaking players! Please visit us:
http://diplomail.ru
Hope Kestas don't mind it. Thanks.
13 replies
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Hannibal76 (246 D (B))
03 Mar 16 UTC
Welcome to Join
Hey guys. You're welcome to join this game. We need 3 more people
1 reply
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JEccles (421 D)
23 Feb 16 UTC
Football (Soccer) Club Advice
See next.
78 replies
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Nikola Maric Eto (24945 D)
01 Mar 16 UTC
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Dont redo your moves when drunk
Dont redo your moves when drunk
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