Vecna why is ND clear?

Krellin, im doing the same thing as you. Im just stabbing at everything that moves to piss it off and gauge its reaction. Ive been doing the same all game, maybe not with the same volume as you, but its all there to read (which is also the reason why this silly ND has his teeth in my ancle and ive been dragging his burden around all this time, silly oracle).

Anyways I still believe those voting patterns actually do matter. Behaviour is easy to fake - as Ghug is demonstrating this entire game if he's actually scum. The combination of his recent behaviour and the voting patterns seems pretty damning to me.

He's pretending to be Chaqa this game which reads as being narrow minded townie but the guys in academia and is a teacher. Surely theres a false equivalency here on my part but wouldnt an educated person see beyond the mask over their eyes?
Stinks of ulterior motive.

Im pretty sure ND is not an Oracle lol.

Noone is clear BB, I just talk in likelyhoods and right now ND is not the most likely person to flip as scum IMO.

He plays this shitty style whether he's town or scum - allthough ill grant you he didnt do it as much when he got replaced that game. Hmmmm maybe Ive talked myself into a little train of thought.

Oracle is just the little nickname I assigned him because he clearly thinks he's clairvoyant and knows everything when he's looking into his crystal ball and makes it focus on someone.

If everyone did what ND does itd be a really stupid game just saying. Nothing would ever happen and itd be a pacifist variant.

lol Vecna, I think we just have opposite opinions on thing. Voting patterns are the easiest to fake, imo. We can agree to disagree.

Since we have an opposite methodology, then when we finally agree on someone, maybe we might actually have something...

My argument is whats the point of posturing to look townclear if you opt at voting times to be disengaged. That tells you he doesnt really care if you are scum or not he can just sit back and crunch popcorn while we look stupid.

Parts of it are easy to fake, sure - but when scum get the option to lynch a confirmed town PR (they had to know it was TRUE, since they would know they had no mafia RB) they cannot fake it since they have to take the option.

At least with enough numbers to make the kill happen. Scum guak indeed will just vote for random people to stay clear of being tagged in voting patterns.

both wagons were town PR dude. that day was gonna be Fubar regardless.

the 4 wagons in the last 3 hours were
Jamiet(town)
y2k (PR)
Maniac(PR)
reedeer1(???)

Thats not the point BB, Y2K claimed to be a town PR - they (scum) never had that claim from maniac untill a day later, else they obviously wouldve chosen to kill him instead.

And trust me, theres noone that wants to see ND lynched more than I do. His play is annoying, obnoxious and terrible for town. I just know he does this shit even when he is town, and has been doing it for quite some time.

Yea well as I said I legit didnt believe y2k was being honest when he claimed it was 2 hours before the deadline. He didnt have to claim at all.

He could have Voted to save himself as well which would have tied it and likely bought Maniac another night of scans (capt. hindsight)

Interesting little fact - everyone that was on MY wagon on day1 is dead, EXCEPT Ghug and ND.

New personal mission; Get Ghug and ND killed, put fear into everyone for next game so they never dare to wagon on me again.

Hoho

(in before ND uses this as well to build his case, clearly wanting to kill Ghug and ND for personal reasons is -scummy as fuck-)

VECNA SAYS: "Interesting little fact - everyone that was on MY wagon on day1 is dead, EXCEPT Ghug and ND."

That indeed *is* actually very interesting....hmmmm....

Damn! I **LIKE** it!


So what is the likelihood of getting either an ND or a ghug lynch? What is the generaly town support for ND?

Are they gunning for you, too, Vecna? What are your thoughts?

I feel like everyone is acting very untowny and ingenuine.

demonRHK (11): Maniac, SkiingCougar, y2kjbk, VashtaNeurotic, OB_Gyn_Kenobi, Chaqa, Vecna, reedeer1, brainbomb, xorxes, Balki Bartokomous
brainbomb (1): guak
Vecna (6): ND, Jamiet99uk, goldfinger0303, ghug, WardenDresden, demonRHK
guak (1): krellin

Unvoted(2): Yoyoyozo, Captainmeme

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Its not interesting for those reasons Krellin - of the people that died, only 1 was due to a NK (Goldy). The rest was lynches.

Whats interesting however is that of the people that were on there, the only confirmed scum was the SNIPER - who had no idea who his buddies are. The rest are still alive or dead townies. I strongly doubt though that there would be NO scum on my wagon whatsoever (besides warden), as they usually LOOOOVE to spread themselves. They even went so far as to unvote (yoyo nad potentially Captain), or just be on other wagons by themselves (Not confirmed but possible scum Guak and Krellin).

I feel a Ghug lynch is still way better than an ND lynch though, since he has way more other circumstancial evidence heaped against him. His play, actions and voting behaviour just scream scum.

##vote Ghug harder

Hmm damn I just realized something. Were at 8 people. If the amnesiac is on the scumteam were allready on LYLO......

Which would explain why Krellin suddenly changed his mood and tone so eagerly, if he can avoid getting lynched and the vote onto a towny he wins at EOD.

Any mislynch from this moment onward is likely to insta-lose the game for town.

##Vote Krellin

Yeah upon reading back, that sudden change in behaviour - The little gentle nudges to push the vote towards either Ghug or ND. Insulting insulting, and then suddenly buddying up, being NICE - thinking my stupid little comment that means jack shit is "OH SO INTERESTING".

Hmmmm It stinks. And if thats the case, brainbomb is in on it as well.

Typical scum behaviour when they think they pulled off a plan, when they see the light of the tunnel - when victory comes so close they can taste it. Then suddenly they become friendly, want to work towards a "common" goal.

You Krellin, are SCUM

lol vecna brings up something, I comment that it's interesting and ask his opinion on it...and he votes for me in response.

What a fucking assclown. Is there a single coherent, consistent thought going through your head?