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Chaqa (3971 D(B))
25 Jan 17 UTC
Lusthog time
It's lusthog time. 2 games this go, same as usual:
- Gunboat
- No draws until stalemate
- No NMR
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The Ambassador (124 D)
25 Jan 17 UTC
Dip Directions?
In episode 11 of the Diplomacy Games podcast Kaner and I discussed longevity aspects and risk management of sites like webDip and vDip to ensure they grow and reduce the chances of going down (either technically speaking or perceptions of IP infringement). We said we'd create a thread for this for others to contribute. What do you reckon?
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Jamiet99uk (758 D)
03 Jan 17 UTC
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MAFIA XXVI - GAME THREAD
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Durga (3609 D)
17 Jan 17 UTC
Y'all need to promise to be online from now to EoD, although I'll have this out sooner than later (I'm literally skipping debate for this bs).
WardenDresden (239 D(B))
17 Jan 17 UTC
Is a dargo, RHK, Xorxes, teacon, Tom Bomb scumteam even possible?
WardenDresden (239 D(B))
17 Jan 17 UTC
except arj, rdrivera, and DL also could fit the profile. I don't think we can entirely ignore the possibility that rd+arj are both scum.
Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
17 Jan 17 UTC
I'm at work in an unfamiliar and fairly dismal place. I can't promise anything about being online. Plus, apparently, waiting til right at the end of a phase to make a case makes you scum...
Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
17 Jan 17 UTC
I don't think arj is scum. Rdrivera has played really well as scum in the past and needs looking at again; but first things first we just need to get rid of the obvious. Xorxes must die.
DeathLlama8 (514 D)
17 Jan 17 UTC
I'm back. Won't be on at EOD but should be able to catch up after that. ##vote DemonRHK.
Jamiet99uk (758 D)
17 Jan 17 UTC
VOTE COUNT 5.5

DemonRHK (5) - Rdrivera2005, Ezio, Fluminator, Xorxes, DeathLlama8
Xorxes (4) - Tom Bombadil, Hellenic Riot, DemonRHK, WardenDresden
Ezio (1) - dargorygel
Unvoted (1) - DemonOverlord

Currently DEMONRHK is set to be lynched.

You have ONE HOUR and FIVE MINUTES remaining.

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The following players must enter a valid vote: arj11, Kakarroto, teacon7
The following player must make two posts: teacon7
Durga (3609 D)
17 Jan 17 UTC
Things DeathLlama8 has done this game

1) Throws an early vote onto dargo for being scummy, good reasoning - calls it forced (methinks bussing)

2) Said he was back for EoD1 - did NOT vote for either wagon, did NOT push either wagon or anyone, kept his vote on Glum (glen/flum) but was clearly around for the end of day. And then, at night magically LOSES his scum read on Glum, and (this is the fun part) literally *scum reads* Kaka for voting Glum because he sheeped RHK - all the while noting reasons why RHK is scummy, but casting blame on Kaka instead

3) DL uses people on the Vashta wagon to try and find scum, casting shade on Kaka and Teacon. He then makes a long ass post on Kaka’s scumminess, one of his major points being because Kaka voted for Glum. Let me remind you that DEATHLLAMA8 ENDED HIS DAY ON GLUM.

4) He calls Ike “rike”

5) Had no comment on bb’s developer claim, seemed to buy it when questioning Kaka actually, the other part of his case was condemning Kaka for being unsure to trust bb. Note that at this point kaka was like, his only scum read and he does a xorxes where he doesn’t question it (this is before RHK says anything) and unvotes kaka. I’m willing to overlook this because its easy to prove gunsmith. But doesn’t cast any shade on RHK for being a dipshit

6) He votes Vecna on D2 for pretty much no reason other than prevent a tie (says “rip Vecna” when he flips town, no remorse, does not care)

7) Shits on zorc for not doing anything, when he hasn’t done shit.

8) Does a “case analysis” that has a fuck ton of filler and very little content. Thinks the Vecna wagon was town driven calls ghug and balki “clears or soft-clears” (no clears here, babydoll). He doesn’t like MF for doing nothing about pushing people off Vecna, when he did shit all. Votes MF for EoD behaviour, leaves and isn’t around for EoD (corrupter was on MF despite Warden’s claim and chaos)

9) MF is dead and he has no scum reads at this point

10) Votes Floodgates despite being null on him 5ever, says “RIP Floodgates”. Says RHK looked bad

11) Is pretty well informed about the corrupter.

12) Points out PLENTY of reasons why Tom B is scummy… And literally has never voted Tom B even once.

13) Thinks Ezio wants Maniac lynched for being PR - but I think we’ve seen scum doesn’t want to kill PR.


All in all, DL is very reserved, cautious, he's coasting - He's here while not being here. Putting in enough to pretend he's doing something when he's done shit all. Hasn't had any sort of solid reads whatsoever, doesn't seem to have more than one read at a time... Very concerning. And a surprising lack of pressure on him too

##vote DeathLlama8
Durga (3609 D)
17 Jan 17 UTC
Everyone on RHK move to DL.

No one should be on Ezio. NO ONE.
Ezio (2181 D)
17 Jan 17 UTC
##vote DL. Sure.
Kakarroto (128 D)
17 Jan 17 UTC
##vote DeathLlama8
WardenDresden (239 D(B))
17 Jan 17 UTC
##VOTE DeathLlama
DemonRHK (100 D(B))
17 Jan 17 UTC
##Vote DL8
WardenDresden (239 D(B))
17 Jan 17 UTC
If we didn't know otherwise, your case is conveniently posted right after DL says he's going offline.
Fluminator (1500 D)
17 Jan 17 UTC
I'm back, and should be around until end of day.
I agree with you that no one should be on Ezio. But deathllama wasn't even on my radar. I need to read the case but really DO?
Durga (3609 D)
17 Jan 17 UTC
Lol, I just noticed that. We are so fragmented rn though.
Fluminator (1500 D)
17 Jan 17 UTC
##Vote DL8 I guess, but I want it changed back I'm pretty sure.
Durga (3609 D)
17 Jan 17 UTC
Isn't the fact that he isn't even on your radar weird enough
Durga (3609 D)
17 Jan 17 UTC
I don't actually want RHK today.

I'm willing to go the safe route and vote xorxes but I think DL8 is better.

Warden, kaka - thoughts?
DeathLlama8 (514 D)
17 Jan 17 UTC
“You should know, we have some HYPOCRITE POLICE who run around wildly flashing their badges and shooting their guns around here. They're not looking for scum. But they are hard at work trying to root out hypocrites. Tread carefully.” -Balki
--Response to DemonOverlord’s case, I have to go now but here were the major points. DemonOverlord clearly needs to reread my D2.--

“1) Throws an early vote onto dargo for being scummy, good reasoning - calls it forced (methinks bussing)”

Why is this bussing exactly? Dargo might not even be scum. What about any of that makes it scum-motivated? (I don’t think “good reasoning” is what you’re looking for)

“2) Said he was back for EoD1 - did NOT vote for either wagon, did NOT push either wagon or anyone, kept his vote on Glum (glen/flum) but was clearly around for the end of day. And then, at night magically LOSES his scum read on Glum, and (this is the fun part) literally *scum reads* Kaka for voting Glum because he sheeped RHK - all the while noting reasons why RHK is scummy, but casting blame on Kaka instead”

I think I’ve already mentioned that I was half-paying attention at EOD and thought Glen was still a viable wagon. I didn’t use mafia.peterlund.se because I was under the impression that it only updates every ten minutes and wasn’t sure if it was valid.

Here’s the post in question:
“Kakarroto’s EOD looks pretty bad.

“[][]vote Glen_Alexander

why?
-) in the past games, there was a tendency that DemonRHK, when he is town, has good early reads. I think this is likely the case here and Demon looks slightly to moderate town to me.
-) Vash is on this wagon, so him changing wouldn't result in a tie. Someone else would need to vote for him since 6 are for him and only 4 (5 with me) for Glen
-) I myself have no real clear scumread right now but should decide soon to prevent any EoD shenanigans. (partly this is brains fault making me angry and letting me tunnel him - maybe I'm just a bad player but I prefer not to think that)
-) given the last game, glen didn't do much as town so if we mislynch here, in case he is not a PR, we can afford to do so.” -pg27

For somebody who’d been posting a lot, literally sheeping DemonRHK because he has no clear scumread of his own (with twenty minutes left in the phase) is strange, as is focusing on avoiding a tie despite saying he wants to change his vote soon (he does, onto Vash to cement the lynch, but with literally a minute left in the day and without any clear indication he scumreads Vash). His Start-of-night posts both feel very forced as well. Definitely scumread him now.”

Nothing about this says DemonRHK is scum. If I post a case with reasonable, insightful analysis and three townies follow my vote for no reason, that doesn’t make me scum.
“3) DL uses people on the Vashta wagon to try and find scum, casting shade on Kaka and Teacon. He then makes a long ass post on Kaka’s scumminess, one of his major points being because Kaka voted for Glum. Let me remind you that DEATHLLAMA8 ENDED HIS DAY ON GLUM.”

Um no that’s perfectly valid. My major point was /how/ Kaka voted for Flum, not just that he did so. (my post on this was basically the previous post copy-pasted).

“6) He votes Vecna on D2 for pretty much no reason other than prevent a tie (says “rip Vecna” when he flips town, no remorse, does not care)”

With five minutes left and the vote separated by one, that’s a perfectly okay reason.

“7) Shits on zorc for not doing anything, when he hasn’t done shit.”

...where did I say that

“8) Does a “case analysis” that has a fuck ton of filler and very little content. Thinks the Vecna wagon was town driven calls ghug and balki “clears or soft-clears” (no clears here, babydoll). He doesn’t like MF for doing nothing about pushing people off Vecna, when he did shit all. Votes MF for EoD behaviour, leaves and isn’t around for EoD (corrupter was on MF despite Warden’s claim and chaos)”

Lol what? Do you understand the difference between me scumreading somebody for not doing anything during the lynch and then immediately flipping out about how obvtown Vecna was and me not being online for EOD?
Fluminator (1500 D)
17 Jan 17 UTC
It's better than being on my negative radar.
DeathLlama8 (514 D)
17 Jan 17 UTC
I want everyone on me to read the posts referenced for themselves. Some of them are nowhere near what DemonOverlord is portraying them as.
DeathLlama8 (514 D)
17 Jan 17 UTC
"@Also Dargoryel:

1.) I imagine that the votes placed on you in the discord game were actual votes, not a joke vote on page one for something that happened in the signups thread.

2.) What about ND's reaction seemed scummy to you? Why did you think his responses to the initial question were scum-indicative?

Not loving this early play, seems forced [][]vote dargoryel" -pg5

"Kakarroto’s EOD looks pretty bad.

“[][]vote Glen_Alexander

why?
-) in the past games, there was a tendency that DemonRHK, when he is town, has good early reads. I think this is likely the case here and Demon looks slightly to moderate town to me.
-) Vash is on this wagon, so him changing wouldn't result in a tie. Someone else would need to vote for him since 6 are for him and only 4 (5 with me) for Glen
-) I myself have no real clear scumread right now but should decide soon to prevent any EoD shenanigans. (partly this is brains fault making me angry and letting me tunnel him - maybe I'm just a bad player but I prefer not to think that)
-) given the last game, glen didn't do much as town so if we mislynch here, in case he is not a PR, we can afford to do so.” -pg27

For somebody who’d been posting a lot, literally sheeping DemonRHK because he has no clear scumread of his own (with twenty minutes left in the phase) is strange, as is focusing on avoiding a tie despite saying he wants to change his vote soon (he does, onto Vash to cement the lynch, but with literally a minute left in the day and without any clear indication he scumreads Vash). His Start-of-night posts both feel very forced as well. Definitely scumread him now." -pg38

--kaka case-- -pg47

Analysis + "I don’t like MoscowFleet at EOD. For somebody apparently convinced that Vecna was town (as his post at EOD after Vecna lynch was inevitable and at start of N2 showed) and Maniac was scum, he didn’t do much to try to get people from Vecna to Maniac. If Maniac flips scum, this read will intensify." -pg103
Jamiet99uk (758 D)
17 Jan 17 UTC
VOTE COUNT 5.6

DeathLlama8 (6) - DemonOverlord, Ezio, Kakarroto, WardenDresden, DemonRHK, Fluminator
DemonRHK (3) - Rdrivera2005, Xorxes, DeathLlama8
Xorxes (2) - Tom Bombadil, Hellenic Riot
Ezio (1) - dargorygel

Currently DEMONRHK is set to be lynched.

You have 40 MINUTES remaining until the end of the day.

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The following players must enter a valid vote: arj11, teacon7
The following player must make two posts: teacon7
Jamiet99uk (758 D)
17 Jan 17 UTC
Crap: CURRENTLY **DEATHLLAMA8** IS SET TO BE LYNCHED
Durga (3609 D)
17 Jan 17 UTC
Where the fuck is arj. Are we just going to lose this anyway?
Durga (3609 D)
17 Jan 17 UTC
DeathLlama, if you want to survive and need to leave - put your vote on xorxes and go
Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
17 Jan 17 UTC
Xorxes is a safer lynch. DL8 is Floodgates 2.0 right now.
rdrivera2005 (3533 D(G))
17 Jan 17 UTC
##vote DL8, hope you are right DO.
Fluminator (1500 D)
17 Jan 17 UTC
That's literally the first thing HR has said that I agree with all game and that frightens me.

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Flame (125 D)
25 Jan 17 UTC
For Russian-speaking players
I still want to remind that russian-speaking players are also welcomed to Diplomail.Ru webdiplomacy server.
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WyattS14 (100 D(B))
25 Jan 17 UTC
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So apparently you can't join more than 10 games...
WebDip thinks I have a life. Funny
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ssorenn (0 DX)
25 Jan 17 UTC
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My gunboats are over, time for some new ones
36h,dss, 25pt, gunboats
3 games--please join if you can play all three
Please ready if you can-----
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fourofswords (415 D)
25 Jan 17 UTC
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Can we get 901 back?
Is it possible to get known world 901 variant back? with or without fixing bugs? It seems enough people like it.
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Condescension (10 D)
20 Jan 17 UTC
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In less than 24 hours, a lunatic will be in control of the nuclear football.
We're fucked.
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The Ambassador (124 D)
25 Jan 17 UTC
Latest podcast of Diplomacy Games
New podcast episode of DiplomacyGames.com is now live on the website, iTunes & Stitcher. Kaner and I trade barbs over our 1v1 performance, we go down the rabbit hole about the direction of the various Dip sites and have a bit of fun discussing the Africa variant over at VDip. Enjoy!
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ssorenn (0 DX)
23 Jan 17 UTC
Thomas Sowell
The worst president ever

https://youtu.be/0UpiNiaak18
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TrPrado (461 D)
24 Jan 17 UTC
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Most Important Thread of the Year
The Oscars
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WyattS14 (100 D(B))
14 Jan 17 UTC
Phantasmagoria?
I'm a little confused as to how you would use the word phantasmagorical/phantasmagoria/etc. I understand the words meaning, but would it be used as a negative connotation or positive connotation?
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Ezio (2181 D)
24 Jan 17 UTC
Most Elegant Stab
I am trying to find some examples of pretty looking stabs. I know people take pride in them, so what do you think is the best stab you've ever done on the site?
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0k0k0 (4810 D)
24 Jan 17 UTC
Why can't I create a Known World Game?
The option does not appear in the list of variants.
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sirKristof (15 DX)
23 Jan 17 UTC
901?
I've been unable to find or create any new 901 variant games for a while now. It's still listed as active though! Anyone else have this issue?
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WyattS14 (100 D(B))
23 Jan 17 UTC
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US Election and Aftermath
I did this with my Asia Pacific thread. Let's see if a reasonable discussion on the possible outcome of this election could be. (Articles and counterpoints are more than welcome)
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captainmeme (1723 DMod)
23 Jan 17 UTC
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diplomacy.avi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVvAl7G4xLI
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brainbomb (290 D)
15 Jan 17 UTC
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I decided to open my imagination
I prayed about something recently. I asked God to give me signs. God gave me all the wrong signs. Therefore I submit this as Exhibit A, God is eother an asshole or doesnt exist. Discuss
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Jamiet99uk (758 D)
23 Jan 17 UTC
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"Alternative Facts"
Or, you know, what we used to just called "lies".
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Ezio (2181 D)
16 Jan 17 UTC
aaron rodgers is a god
I told everyone
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CommanderByron (801 D(S))
23 Jan 17 UTC
Let's Keep It Real
Conservatives- Resistant to change, confident in the status quo.
Liberals- Supportive of change, dissatisfied with the status quo.
If we stopped attacking each other for a few minutes these traits could be complimentary.
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Condescension (10 D)
23 Jan 17 UTC
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Conservatives are socially awkward
I think I just figured it out. Conservatives are just fucking socially awkward. That's the only reason you could possibly not figure out that privilege is a thing.
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evanej (100 D)
20 Jan 17 UTC
How are you welcoming in Trump?
It is time!
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JamesYanik (548 D)
23 Jan 17 UTC
NEW WORLD RECORD
after only 4 hours, #alternativefacts is already being overused, just beating out the previous record held by #fakenews.

we fully expect to endure this for the next few days, until it to dies, or develops into something else (such as #bullshitnews)
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brainbomb (290 D)
21 Jan 17 UTC
I dont believe in the alphabet or languages
I think God did not actually create the alphabet. People did. People also made the tower of babel. Im agaist taxes being used to teach people the alphabet. God didnt create it, so its not important
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WyattS14 (100 D(B))
20 Jan 17 UTC
Does math Exist, or is it really JUST an idea?
I found
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CAPT Brad (40 DX)
19 Dec 16 UTC
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22 Jan 17 UTC
Only one needed: gunboat, ancmed
http://www.webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=189485
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19 Jan 17 UTC
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Peregrine Falcon (9010 D(S))
21 Jan 17 UTC
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I'm looking for three more people to join me and three friends for a game. We'll keep the meta gaming to a minimum. Post here or message me if you're interested.
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