Finally back home and read the thread, also here are the last reads from the persons mafia nk'ed.
ghug's last reads:
DO is clearly full of shit. [he retracts this by his last post: "DO is obvtown. All my other reads are real."]
HR is scum. He basically scumreads people for being wrong a lot and then is wrong a lot himself. This "confirmed" nonsense shows a narrow view of the game. One he's probably constructed and one that isn't accurate at all.
xorxes is scum. He's past the point where we can expect him to wait to start being useful. Dude likes to figure shit out, and he's not doing that here.
Flum's reaction to all of this seems pretty town.
Teacon is still scum. He realized he was being scumread for acting like he does as scum, so he tried to act like he does as town, but it was pretty weak and empty.
Ezio's vote was one of someone not worried about the corrupter tying. Still leaning scum there.
RHK is scum too because jesus christ. (I think that's 7 now?)
Our PRs are probably also scum because they suck as well. [well I think this is just his way of venting his frustration about our bad choices for lynch and shots, so I will not include any PR's in his scum list]
Y'all killed one of the only townie looking people, so my townreads are down to arj, Tom, and rd. Considering adding Flum to that list, but I'm gonna have to think on that a little.
Maniac is so town.
Ezio didn't give reads on anyone until he voted for you at the final moment, actually.
Balki's:
Scum reads:
Moscow
arj/rdrivera/darg
Brainbomb
bo_sox48's:
Some scumreads in no particular order, as I may not be back home before EON:
Ezio - I think there is a legitimate possibility that he is one of a few scum roles, one being the corruptor. The corruptor is a fairly weak role, in my opinion, unless town absolutely botches a lynch. Still, scum is scum.
teacon - If only because we are running out of options, and because I haven’t seen anything town-indicative of him this game (a point that is amplified given that he typically shows a lot of effort, good comprehension of the game, and finds unique points of analysis even when he has little time or energy for the game), I think he’s probably scum. If I live, which I assume I will, and if I have a gun, which I assume I will, he will be in my sights.
DeathLlama8 - I already made the case for him as corruptor. I don’t see him as poisoner or traitor, however. Still, a worthwhile target.
RHK - his play with the gun seemed forced. He didn’t out it, as if it might be forgotten (and it appears it would have been). When he did, he said there was no reason to out it as it could be used to clear the gun smuggler, as if that role needs a bunch of confirmation. He read peter (VT) and WD (orc) as his top scumreads, and then secondarily listed teacon, darg, and Floodgates/Maniac. If he is scum, I expect he bussed maybe two teammates in these reads. Looking back, I should have made him shoot out of those secondary reads.
For traitor:
I see only a few realistic possibilities here. Given that mafia has some experience, but in my opinion not tons of it (brainbomb was poisoned, which I don’t think a player like HR, for example, would ever let happen, because he was obviously not developer), I think the traitor is probably one of xorxes or HR, more likely the latter. If HR turns out to be the traitor, we should take a closer look at xorxes for meta purposes. Mafia showed N2 that they are willing to fearkill instead of going after confirmed clears and PRs, and though I don’t expect them to do that again, I think it is quite telling. HR is by far the top fearkill choice for lightly experienced scum, I think. That said, we should look back through D1 and see if there are any obvious PR breadcrumbs that could indicate someone else was targeted, though please be careful about outing someone. The puzzle will put itself together soon enough; no need to put town at more of a disadvantage in the process.
For whatever reason, I just realized that my townread on Glen was based on Kaka being scum. As such, I don't necessarily townread Flum. Gonna have to reread him. Woops.
bo_sox's case for corrupter:
This is a screenshot of peter's D3 tracker: https://puu.sh/tj9Ob/ef74f90666.png
As others have pointed out, it appears likely that the corruptor wasn't online around the end of the day. Similarly, since the corruptor ended up on Moscow, I think we can expect that the corruptor was voting for Moscow, probably up to and through the end. As such, the pool for the corruptor, if each of these premises is correct, is DL8 (voted Moscow with 57 minutes left until EOD, admitted that he wasn't around at EOD), Ezio (voted Moscow with 3.5 hours left until EOD), or Fluminator (voted Moscow over 24 hours ago, but was present at EOD - possibly just didn't bother changing the vote?).
I don't think that Fluminator would "forget" or "not bother" to change the corruptor vote, particularly when we all started changing our votes. Likewise, I don't think that he would avoid changing his, so I'm going to rule him out.
Ezio was online and active around EOD, even saying “god damnit. Everyone on MF” after WD’s reveal. I think it is possible that he actually changed the corruptor vote over to Moscow simply out of inexperience, disregard for his corrupter vote, or maybe even to cast a little bit of doubt about who he was. However, each of these seem less likely than…
DL8, who was not online for the EOD but was online recently enough to know that Moscow would be a big wagon going into the EOD and had a legitimate shot at being lynched, is the corruptor and placed that vote there about an hour before the deadline.
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I've put them together to see if we can see any sign for why they got the nk at the time, if mafia would want to silence them because they were in their reads at the time. Balkis reads we know that 2 are VT, but the middle row made me think a bit: it is possible that rd is scum and would cover arj after his dream if he is scum too (it wouldn't mean that if rd is scum that arj has to be scum too ... unlikely that warden got two scum with his dream choice). From what I've seen I don't think it is true, but rd was scum before and he did good. Just want to point out that possibility.
ghugs: HR, xorxes, teacon, Ezio, RHK. Without counterclaim for HR this list is down to 4, he was right with Maniac.
bo's: Ezio, teacon, DeathLlama, RHK - 3 names here that are also on ghugs list.
combining the two above, the scumteam could be teacon, Ezio, RHK, DeathLlama and xorxes.
if we think that balki has some correct guesses, I think that would change to: teacon Ezio RHK (both bo+ghug had them in their reads) and then a combination of dargo, rd, DeathLlama and arj (last one only possible if godfather or rd is scum)
Anything you can read out of their reads, which I may have interpreted wrongly?