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Slyguy270 (527 D)
01 Feb 16 UTC
Democracy4US
Quite simply, Democracy4US is an app built to fix politics in America.
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brainbomb (290 D)
02 Feb 16 UTC
Donald Trump threatens Iowans
In his speech last night Trump was cold and unforgiving to the Iowans. He threatened to buy a farm and move to Iowa.
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MrcsAurelius (3051 D(B))
02 Feb 16 UTC
Hope someone knows!
Recent changes question.
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CommanderByron (801 D(S))
02 Feb 16 UTC
Quality Live Game
I was considering starting a RP (Rulebook Press?) around 4pm EST (New York City Time). I was thinking 10 minute phases (assuming that the auto ready on retreat and builds will save us a ton of time) I would prefer if you have at least 10 games to your name and the bet will be 50 D. add your name in list format below. I will send out the Passwords at 3pm EST
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lauridsena (910 D)
02 Feb 16 UTC
Checking adjacent territories
Is there any way to check ahead of time, in any manner, if two territories are adjacent? There are some territories that seem adjacent, but I don't know if fleets can travel between them. I just don't know how to see if they are or not and don't want to take the chance they aren't and try to move somewhere only to find out the next move is impossible
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
13 Dec 15 UTC
Playtesting my boardgame online
Hello everyone,
version 1 of my boardgame is finished. It was brought to my attention that it's probably a good idea to test it online. Two things needed there: 1. players and
2. some sort of adjudicator to use, with which I can easily add and move around 6 unit types, factories, territory markers and 4 kinds of resources, while also keeping track of various variables (although that can be done fairly easily outside of the adjudicator).
Can you help with either of those?
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brainbomb (290 D)
01 Feb 16 UTC
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New site feature: Voice chat press
Its simple you get a 7 player game public voice chat and webcam channel. So its like the closest thing to ftf Diplomacy since sliced bread. Can you imagine the look on Valis face when I build a fleet in Mar and hes in Italian Leponto. Come on webcam and voice chat would be hilarious.
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Fluminator (1500 D)
29 Jan 16 UTC
Epic Mafia makes the news.
Hey, our live Mafia website has made the UK news:
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jan/28/death-of-a-troll
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
31 Jan 16 UTC
SoS gunoats
I went from 60 games to 3 games waiting for this fucking ODC Finals to start and I need something to play but can't commit to press games.

Here's 14 SoS gunboats. Join if able and willing please. Thanks.
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A_Tin_Can (2234 D)
29 Jan 16 UTC
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Reliability Rating (RR) discussion
Since this has come up in the other thread-
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domwnec (254 D)
31 Jan 16 UTC
How to create an app?
At work we're thinking of creating an app. No one knows how to do it internally. Has anyone gone through this before? Any valuable lessons learned? Pros and cons? Cost of development and upkeep? Thank you.
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brainbomb (290 D)
01 Feb 16 UTC
And the Groundhog.....
Wait for it...Fuck winter
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Lando Calrissian (100 D(S))
31 Jan 16 UTC
long phase gb
Id like to play a game but cant get Online consistenly. If you're willing please consider http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=173461
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
29 Jan 16 UTC
Site Update: Skill Ratings and integration
Important. Please read.
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steephie22 (182 D(S))
28 Jan 16 UTC
Design Competition
See broadexpert.com if you want to help with the design of my start-up company. You may make some money. I'm not going to a design company for a reason though :-)

Meanwhile, I want to start a discussion: I have a debating competition coming up next week and one of the statements will be: 'High school students lack ambition'. If I'm against this statement, I thought it would be a good idea to bring up the company. I'm not sure whether that's socially acceptable though?
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Jamiet99uk (898 D)
29 Jan 16 UTC
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POINTS PER SUPPLY CENTRE
January is almost at an end. Can we anticipate an early publication of the report into the Moderators' grand experiment, and their verdict on the success (or otherwise) of their trial?
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KingCyrus (511 D)
22 Jan 16 UTC
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Roe v. Wade
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
29 Jan 16 UTC
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I will Survive
Interested in knowing why we can't ditch Survive stats, but don't want to clutter the other thread...
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CommanderByron (801 D(S))
30 Jan 16 UTC
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Volunteer
It seems ATC and others are stressed about all the changes going on. I need a volunteer to show up at his house and give him a massage any takers?
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
07 Oct 15 UTC
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School of War; Fall 2015
This thread is for the Fall 2015 class of the School of War. Please be courteous to those running the game and respect any reasonable requests they may make. This semester will be taught by Professors The Hanged Man and Hellenic Riot. gameID=168281
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brofistme (100 D)
30 Jan 16 UTC
JOIN LIVE GAME
NOW NOW NOW
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brofistme (100 D)
30 Jan 16 UTC
JOIN THE LIVE GAME
please
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Jamiet99uk (898 D)
29 Jan 16 UTC
Screen shots
Is it against the rules to send screen shots to a player, in an attempt to prove that something has been said to you in private press?
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TrPrado (461 D)
03 Jan 16 UTC
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Mafia XVI Game Thread
See inside for buckets of fun.
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guak (3381 D)
20 Jan 16 UTC
I demand to get a NK
Jamiet99uk (898 D)
20 Jan 16 UTC
Don't attack Flum - give credit to Captainmeme for a clever trick.
Jamiet99uk (898 D)
20 Jan 16 UTC
I'll ask Claesar to cult you Guak it'll be cool.
guak (3381 D)
20 Jan 16 UTC
Flum falling for the oldest trick in the book
ND (879 D)
20 Jan 16 UTC
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Official and Final D6 Vote Count:
Captainmeme: Fluminator, guak,
Fluminator: Claesar, Jamiet99uk, Captainmeme
No Votes (time ran out before yoyo could cast a vote. Yoyo will not be penalized): Yoyoyozo
END Votes (4/6)
Claesar, Jamiet99uk, Captainmemem Fluminator
-----------------------
Around lunch time, Fluminator went out to get some food and chocolates for the Syndicate members in the J. Edgar Hoover Building.

As he walked back to the building he couldn’t help but thinking that life was like a box of chocolates and that you never could know what chocolate you would pull from the box. Fluminator walked inside only to find out that while he was out the remainder of the J. Edgar Hoover Building staff had decided to put him on trial.
Fluminator lit a cigarette, but before he could finish he was pushed down a flight of stairs by the staff.

Fluminator, also known as the Cigarette Smoking Man, the Mafia Enforcer Ninja, will never smoke another cigarette again.

FLUMINATOR has been LYNCHED!

Night 6 has begun. Night 6 will end at 7:00PM EST 1/21/16 unless there is universal agreement by the remaining players to END early. Everyone can PM me an END vote if they want to END early.
Jamiet99uk (898 D)
20 Jan 16 UTC
Byebye, Fluminator baby. You played well right until the end. Slick move, Captainmemem.
captainmeme (1723 DMod)
20 Jan 16 UTC
Well, I'm going to go play Civ for a bit. I'll be around to talk later.
Jamiet99uk (898 D)
20 Jan 16 UTC
The outcome of today would be much less funny if it didn't come right after Fluminator said "I don't want to accidentally lynch myself"...
Jamiet99uk (898 D)
20 Jan 16 UTC
##End
guak (3381 D)
20 Jan 16 UTC
##END
Yoyoyozo (95 D)
20 Jan 16 UTC
##END
captainmeme (1723 DMod)
20 Jan 16 UTC
##END
Jamiet99uk (898 D)
20 Jan 16 UTC
========NIGHT ENDS==========
captainmeme (1723 DMod)
20 Jan 16 UTC
Claesar hasn't ended yet. He's still alive.
ND (879 D)
20 Jan 16 UTC
Nope doesn't end until claesar says so
Jamiet99uk (898 D)
20 Jan 16 UTC
Oh sorry, daytime is majority endhammer, but night requires every single player to vote end?
captainmeme (1723 DMod)
20 Jan 16 UTC
" Night 6 will end at 7:00PM EST 1/21/16 unless there is universal agreement by the remaining players to END early."

Yeah, it's because otherwise, for example, if mafia had majority they could hammer before the Cult has a chance to send in an order.
Jamiet99uk (898 D)
20 Jan 16 UTC
That's reasonable.
Jamiet99uk (898 D)
20 Jan 16 UTC
In that case please just interpret my "NIGHT ENDS" post as flavour text.
Claesar (4660 D)
21 Jan 16 UTC
I'm online. Interesting development.
Claesar (4660 D)
21 Jan 16 UTC
This game could end in a tie..

##End
Claesar (4660 D)
21 Jan 16 UTC
*draw
Jamiet99uk (898 D)
21 Jan 16 UTC
================ NIGHT ENDS ====================

This time it's for real. Who will live? Who will die? Which teams will have a place in the draw? Keep watching this space until a GM is online.
TrPrado (461 D)
21 Jan 16 UTC
Night is over, please hold.
TrPrado (461 D)
21 Jan 16 UTC
The sun rose unusually early. Jamie and Claesar woke in an attempt to go find out if they could blend in still. Jamie wore a hoodie with the hood up, trying to look like a thug, but Claesar just laughed at him. On their way to find the Syndicate, a mysterious figure walked up behind Jamie and shot him.
JAMIET99UK has died, he was a CULT LEADER.
Without a leader, Claesar felt unorganized. What was he to do without someone to tell him? Claesar picked up a knife and slit his own throat, committing ritual suicide in the name of Jamie.
CLAESAR has died, he was a CULT MEMBER.

The day has begun, you have until 7:00 EST on January 23rd
captainmeme (1723 DMod)
21 Jan 16 UTC
Hm. Not quite the outcome I was expecting. I guess I have a lot of explaining to do.
captainmeme (1723 DMod)
21 Jan 16 UTC
Ugh, I just realised that this is really, really bad. Yoyo was supposed to die to that shot as well. I guess Claesar must have actually been a Mason.

Much of what Flum and I did this game doesn't make sense on first glance, but it does when you know it was done with the intention of stopping me being converted to Cult. What happened last phase was supposed to cause the Cultists to convert Yoyo instead of me, then we could shoot Jamiet to take them all out - if the Cultists believed Yoyo to be the Fabricator, then they would try to Cult him to stop the shot. If we'd have just tied up the vote last phase, then there's a possibility that Cult would have converted me as we shot Jamiet, leading to a loss for me.

Yoyo is the Tracker. He's possibly a Mason now, I have no idea, but if you're both Masons then I'm dead anyway so I might as well tell you about this either way. OB scanned Vecna N1 and found that out. We decided to leave him alive so that he could potentially give out the identities of the Cult, or in case he found the Masons and tried to signal them. He never did (or if he did find either, he didn't make it very clear - he was being incredibly quiet for the vast majority of the game). The only time he really interacted with the game was when he was frantically trying to discredit Balki's tracker claim, most likely because he knew Balki was lying about being Tracker and thought Balki was trying to direct the Vig shot against a townie.

Going into D4, Flum and I were extremely uncertain on who the Cult Leader was, so we made a plan. The idea was that he'd try to get me lynched, and I'd claim tracker on the stand and point to a couple of people who could be Cult Leader so we could gauge the reaction. Flum could confirm my Tracker claim by my claim to have followed OB and seen where he went on N2. We were looking for a reaction from a Cultist or Mason asking for an alliance against Mafia. We were also looking for a reaction from any Masons who might have tried to Mason me, since they would know 100% my claim was false and might try to out to inform Cult to convert me. I guessed that Claesar might be a Mason because he instantly went for me with no reasoning, which suggests he was Xorxes' partner and knew I was the mismason target, but I wasn't certain of this.

If we didn't get such a reaction, then we could go back to lynching me - that way I would be permanently on the Mafia side and have no chance of being converted.

We weren't expecting Vecna to be subbed out - we were hoping that he might remain silent for most of the phase (as usual) and we'd get a reaction before he came on. However, he got subbed out for Yoyo. This wasn't planned in advance, but when Yoyo came in it felt very much like he was lost and wasn't sure what to do, so I decided to try to pin him as the Fabricator to make absolutely certain Cult wouldn't convert me. Surprisingly, he actually played along and claimed it. I think Flum realised what I was doing, since he started excessively talking about how Yoyo shouldn't have claimed and verifying that Yoyo was the Fab.

We did get a reaction, but it wasn't the one I was hoping for. Ghug outed and asked for an alliance, but he made it clear that two players could potentially be Cult Leader - himself, or Jamiet - and I had no idea which it was. As such, I had to keep up the charade of being Tracker, because if I suddenly turned on them and we lynched the non-Cult Leader then the other would know I was Fabricator, and would convert me during the night as a revenge act, and I would lose.

This was problematic, since I knew Yoyo would probably be willing to vote for Flum. When we'd planned this out we hadn't planned for there to actually be enough Cult and Masons to lynch Fluminator, but everyone being offline, combined with the fact that I was having to vote for him to hide my role, meant that he was certain to be lynched if Yoyo switched. As such, I changed my gameplan and worked at the end of the phase with the intention of getting Fluminator lynched and getting the Cult to convert me during the night.

I know this was playing against Rule #7, but at the time it seemed like the only option - if I didn't vote Flum I would be converted to cult and lose, and the only alternative was getting Flum lynched, and that meant that it would be pretty much impossible for me to win without getting converted to Cult. If I was going to be converted to Cult, Flum had to die, because I had to get rid of the extra nightkill potential.

Thankfully, Yoyo seemed really reluctant to make it appear as though he wasn't the Fabricator. I think this is because he believed the Masons to be dead, and wanted to get converted to Cult - and he knew that he'd only be converted to Cult if he claimed Fab. He even asked in the phase to be converted to Cult, and that was a condition for him voting for Flum.

Thankfully, Yoyo left it so late that Ghug screwed up and missed the voting window. This took me by surprise, because at that point I was playing with the mindset of winning by being converted to Cult. The vote drew, and nobody ended up being lynched, meaning we still had a chance.

Fluminator was extremely angry at me in the Mafia QT and said that if I really wanted to be Cult, he'd try and force me to be Cult. He kept saying in the game thread that he was killing Yoyo, and he did this to try to divert the conversion my way - everyone thought that Claesar was probably a Mason and Guak was probably a Traitor, so if Yoyo was dying then the only winning play for Cult was to convert someone who wasn't going to be targeted by Masons (so not Guak) and wasn't a Mason themselves (Claesar) so they'd be able to convert the next night. Flum set the kill on Ghug (I tried to vote Claesar but he got the first vote in, so he got the tiebreaker), who we thought was Cult Leader, with the intention of killing the Cult and me together. I tried to convince the Cult that Yoyo couldn't be killed so he was the safe conversion in the thread, but it didn't seem to be having much of an impact.

Two things happened contrary to my expectations - Ghug turned out to be a normal Cultist, and I wasn't converted. That meant that the conversion had to be one of Claesar or Yoyo, since Guak was the obvious Mason target so would have died if they'd targeted him. Fluminator was still angry at me for the previous phase and immediately tried to get me lynched.

Fluminator also claimed that Yoyo was converted, most likely to gauge the reaction of the Cult. Given that I believed Yoyo was the most likely target, I backed him up to try to support my Tracker claim. Jamiet instantly voted me, so I knew I'd been wrong - so I said that he'd visited Claesar instead. That seemed to work and Jamiet moved to voting Fluminator.

Fluminator wasn't moving off me. I tried to send messages to him disguised as messages to Jamiet, telling him to remove his end vote and that we would lose this way, but he only removed his end vote, not his vote on me. At that stage, I knew that the options were either me getting lynched, or tying up the vote, since Yoyo would almost certainly vote against Fluminator when he realised that keeping up the charade would lead to him losing for certain. The former might lead to a mafia loss if Yoyo was now a Mason (a possibility, and then he would convert Guak and lynch Flum the next day). The latter would lead to my certain loss, since Cult would probably convert me during the night and Flum would shoot Jamiet.

The safest option I had was to try to get Fluminator lynched. I realised that doing this would make Cult think I was 100% not the Fabricator, which meant that I could take out Jamiet, Claesar, and whoever Jamiet converted the following night, leading to an instant Mafia win. I knew that it was slightly risky, but I used the y2k style shenanigans to try to end the phase early - I knew that if I didn't get my second vote in on time then Fluminator would lynch me, and then it would be up to him, but then a loss would be entirely his fault since that was his plan going into the phase. I got the vote in though, which as far as I could see ensured a Mafia victory. I forgot that if Claesar had been a Mason, the Cult could not convert tonight, so shooting Jamiet would leave the three of us and I wouldn't autowin.

So... Here's where the problem comes in. The way I see it there are a few different scenarios right now:

1) You're both Masons. In this case I'm dead anyway, and GG.
2) Yoyo is still the Tracker and Guak is a Traitor. In this case, we can no lynch today, I can shoot Yoyo tonight, and we get a Mafia win together, or we can lynch Yoyo today.
3) Yoyo is a Mason and Guak is a Traitor. In this case, we can no lynch and I can shoot Yoyo tonight. However, Guak would then be converted to a Mason and I'd have to shoot him the next night. Technically the best play here for you, Guak, would be lynching me and letting Yoyo Mason you, but that would seriously violate rule #7 (play to your CURRENT win condition), and if he's still the Tracker then the game will end in a draw. We should lynch him today in this scenario.
4) Yoyo is a Tracker and Guak is a Mason. I'm not even going to explore this possibility since I think it is definitely false. I'll explain below.

What's the likelihood of each being the case?

1) I'm not going to look into how likely this is because if you are both Masons, then you guys will just lynch me immediately, making analysis pointless.
2) This is definitely possible and somewhat likely. If Yoyo hadn't been Masoned before N5 then the Masons never got a chance to convert him. It all depends on whether you think Vecna was a decent mason target.
3) This is also definitely possible. If Claesar and Yoyo were Masons together, then if Claesar was the one sent out on the conversion and he got Masoned then no other Masoning would have occurred (since Yoyo stayed at home). I can also see Yoyo staying at home and trying to get Cult to convert him if he was the last Mason, since he knew that my Tracker claim was false, but didn't know which of Guak/Me was the Fabricator, since I could have been lying as a Traitor to get the Tracker to claim, and mismasoning would lose him the game.
4) If Guak was a lone Mason then he 100% would have tried to Mason me last night and would have died. There's no way he would have gone for Yoyo when Yoyo was claiming Fabricator.

Alright, so, I've explained myself. I hope I haven't been too long winded. If you want to ask any other questions please feel free. I realise that my play has been misleading and the way Flum and I played might end up screwing our team over here, but I was expecting a different outcome to the night phase and in that outcome it would have instantly won us the game (and stopped me being converted to Cult).

We have a choice of lynching Yoyo now or leaving it until the night phase. I am okay with either - it really depends on whether you believe scenario 2 or 3 is the case, since if it's 3 you lose if we leave it to night phase, but if it's 2 then leaving it to night phase is the easiest way to verify my claim. I'll follow you, Guak.

And if you're a Mason, just get it over with now so I don't have to type any more.
captainmeme (1723 DMod)
21 Jan 16 UTC
Oh, I should probably list who I gave items to:

N1: Vecna - Notebook
N2: Balki - Vest
N3: Pass
N4: Claesar - Binoculars
N5: Jamiet - Gun
N6: Pass

I probably should have kept back an item so I had something to prove myself with, but I kinda randomly submitted my night action since I figured it would have no effect.
Yoyoyozo (95 D)
21 Jan 16 UTC
lol no, I'm definitely the fab. I gave you the vest last night meme. Maybe that was a mistake...
Yoyoyozo (95 D)
21 Jan 16 UTC
##VOTE meme

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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
28 Jan 16 UTC
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Grand Prix and Boroughs 2016
Two tournaments you guys should definitely try to make it to!
Grand Prix at TotalCon http://www.totalcon.com/
The Boroughs 2016: www.TheBoroughsDiplomacy.net
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Riotleader007 (100 D)
29 Jan 16 UTC
Newish
Hey I am new to the website but have played the board game so I am not a complete newbie haha I want to play some on here and figured someone can set up a fun starter game and we all have a little fun! :) Game on!
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ishirkmywork (1401 D)
26 Jan 16 UTC
Russian Opening to Silesia Spring '01
This opening has become a little personal favorite of mine, (if I am Russia, France or Italy) and am wondering if anyone has thoughts, experience, or tactics to share about it. Convincing Russia to do it if you are France or Italy can be difficult -- but well worth it for all involved. You need an imaginative Russian though.
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00matthew2000 (454 D)
28 Jan 16 UTC
New Vdiplomacy game if anyone is interested.
http://www.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=25187
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charlesf (100 D)
28 Jan 16 UTC
1648 Variant: Join the Tournament!
I shall be running a tournament featuring my 1648 (v5.8) variant.
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
26 Jan 16 UTC
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Supreme Court Cases Thread
Utilize this thread by posting your Supreme Court Cases here and only here.
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