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brainbomb (290 D)
14 Sep 17 UTC
Jar Jar Binks appreciation thread
Post your favorite Jar Jar moments herr
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Anneal (245 D)
18 Sep 17 UTC
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How to play Cuba in Empire4?
Cuba is not very defensive and shares very few alliance options. More in response below.
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brainbomb (290 D)
15 Sep 17 UTC
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Rhyme Time III
Welcome my old friends, to the shitshow that never ends. Diplomacy is tedius and gunboat you cant coordinate - join along and mast- (woops) Rhyme Time all your press is poetic! To join this game YOU MUST BE PATHETIC, Have a shitty RR moist from diuretics.
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Fluminator (1500 D)
14 Sep 17 UTC
Let's talk about STDs
There's been a lot of political tension on this forum lately. Let's talk about something else instead.
What's your opinion on the different STDs?
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MajorMitchell (1874 D)
19 Sep 17 UTC
RIP Cassini ..the little space craft that flew to Saturn
What a wonderful triumph of Science and Engineering.
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Condescension (10 D)
14 Sep 17 UTC
New game for lefties
I'd like to make a game for lefties only.

Oh wait, that's just the top 100 game.
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Aegon I Targaryen (100 D)
20 Sep 17 UTC
Live gunboat
Lets get a game going. Set one up to start in 5 mins gameID=206769. If it doesn't work out I'll make another to start 10 mins after
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brainbomb (290 D)
19 Sep 17 UTC
Brainbombs fall classic III
Looking to start a 2 day/phase semi-anon full press classic.
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Smokey Gem (154 D)
15 Sep 17 UTC
The best weapon against an enemy is another enemy.
is Nietsche correct ??
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zultar (4180 DMod(P))
11 Sep 17 UTC
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Top 100 GR complete anon game 2-day phase DSS
Hello all,

I've been asked to post a completely anonymous top-100 GR game. It's 2-day phase DSS to start in 9 days. If you are interested, please PM me with your overall GR. Please do not post in the forum. If there are questions, let me know.
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Durga (3609 D)
18 Sep 17 UTC
Non-Anon, 4 day phase, SoS, HDV
Hey I'm hosting a game because what could be better to do than play dip when you're buried in work and don't have time for anything? gameID=206645

PM me for password if you're in. It's gonna be chill and fun, if you've never played with me I encourage you to join.
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Stressedlines (1559 D)
16 Sep 17 UTC
what if rome does not fall
If corruption and internal fighting do not bring it to its knees, where would the world be today?
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brainbomb (290 D)
05 Sep 17 UTC
Hurricane Irma Category 5
Irma is the largest Atlantic Basin hurricane in NHS history.
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KansasBoyd (25 DX)
13 Sep 17 UTC
Call it Free Speech or Vindictiveness over what he has said, either way I feel it sad to take joy in his suffering.

It is part of my attitude on forgiveness because I find hate to be a waste of time and energy.

Pointing out hate is not the same as defending someone. I have not once even come close to saying his comments on sexuality are proper so please don't attempt that type of strawman argument.
damian (675 D)
13 Sep 17 UTC
"While his comments are certainly bizarre in regards to his sexual views, I think it would be an extreme exaggeration to call it advocating pedophilia in a true definition of the word."

How many times do I need to quote you on this. I'm not claiming that you said, that his comments were proper. I AM however claiming you denied that he was advocating for pedophilia. Your denial is pathetic and disgusting. Milo thinks as soon as a boy has left puberty (around the age of 13), they should be allowed to have sexual relations with anyone of any age.
KansasBoyd (25 DX)
13 Sep 17 UTC
"Milo thinks as soon as a boy has left puberty (around the age of 13), they should be allowed to have sexual relations with anyone of any age"

That is not a true definition of the word pedophilia.

Pedophilia is when an ADULT has sexual fantasies or sexual acts with a prepubescent child.

Girls hit puberty at 10-11 and boys 11-12.

What he said, while bizarre, is again an extreme exaggeration to calling it advocating pedophilia in a TRUE DEFINITION OF THE WORD.

So a TRUE DEFINITION of the word would be that he is advocating for adults to have sex with boys under 11 and girls under 10.

I agree his views are bizarre, but do not fit a true definition of the word.
damian (675 D)
13 Sep 17 UTC
Fine. I've never actually had cause to look up the exact definition of pedophilia. I'll admit to assuming it meant wants to have sex with children. And yes, I consider 13 year olds children.

But I still have a bone to pick with you. Calling his views "bizarre". That is about as far from condemnation is you can get. Why not call his views disgusting, or advocating for criminal behaviour. (which adults have sex with 13 year olds is). Why the hesitancy to just outright condemn the belief. (Which is the main reason I assumed you were defending him). You don't have to condemn the person, or give it to hatred.
KansasBoyd (25 DX)
13 Sep 17 UTC
Too me calling them bizarre is a condemnation.

And technically he is not saying that all adults should have sex with 13 year olds, just that 13 year olds should have a right to choose. It is an important distinction and less disturbing than saying all adults should have sex with 13 year olds.

But still a bizarre thing to say.
Ogion (3882 D)
18 Sep 17 UTC
Oh look, the leewards are about to get hit with a third major hurricane in theee weeks. I'm sure that's just random

Enter Maria.

Oh, it isn't October and we are up to Otis already. What happens when we blast through W?
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
18 Sep 17 UTC
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Maria is very much a symptom of hurricane season. She's following a very normal track, from West Africa through the Caribbean, and fortunately she isn't receiving the same kind of atmospheric and oceanic support that Irma did. She is probably going to make landfall as a decent Cat 1, maybe Cat 2 in the Mid-Atlantic somewhere in a little over a week.

I'm looking forward to Tuesday. If you're in western Iowa or eastern Nebraska, find your September storm shelter.
Ogion (3882 D)
18 Sep 17 UTC
NHC is predicting Cat 3 at landfall
Ogion (3882 D)
18 Sep 17 UTC
And Cat 4 in PR
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
18 Sep 17 UTC
Models are a long way out and aren't all that reliable right now, and the NHC doesn't have any strong information on it yet other than what the models do. They haven't seen it make landfall yet nor have they had a chance to send probes or planes in. I don't even think they have any buoys or markers online that far out into the Atlantic to record data as it passes over. I'm estimating based on the conditions I actually see in the Atlantic off the East Coast right now and making the assumption that they won't change that much for the next 8-10 days. Perhaps that's a bad assumption given that the clearing out is in the wake of Jose, but that should cool things down if it has any impact that far out. Cat 4 wouldn't surprise me one bit at Puerto Rico, I guess maybe it only weakens after Puerto Rico to a Cat 3 but I would see it dropping to a Cat 2.
Ogion (3882 D)
18 Sep 17 UTC
You might want to check the NHC site
"HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT REPORTS MARIA INTENSIFYING... ...EXPECTED TO BECOME A MAJOR HURRICANE LATER TODAY..."

It is on track to hit Antigua and Barbuda today, not 8-10 days from now.
Ogion (3882 D)
18 Sep 17 UTC
Maybe you're thinking of Lee?
Ogion (3882 D)
18 Sep 17 UTC
And Barbuda? That's the one no one loves on anymore because it was utterly destroyed by Irma and Jose. Maria is just going to help blow the rubble out to sea a little
brainbomb (290 D)
18 Sep 17 UTC
Its been raining a lot here. Somebodys house burned down from lightning two nights ago. I was gettin laid when the storm started. Pretty crazy
Randomizer (722 D)
18 Sep 17 UTC
Just follow the Trump on hurricanes:

"In Florida, you got hit with the strongest winds ever recorded," he said at a reception. "It actually hit the Keys with a -- it was a Category 5. I never even knew a Category 5 existed."

Irma was actually a Category 4 storm when it hit the Keys, not a Category 5. Florida did not experience the "strongest winds ever recorded."
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
18 Sep 17 UTC
No, Lee is going to do basically nothing. I'm referring to landfall in the US. It should be 7 days now, unless I miscounted. The Caribbean is going to take a beating again, which is, again, not unheard of given that it's in the most common Atlantic hurricane track in the midst of hurricane season. Yeah, major hurricanes suck, and yeah, they're getting stronger, but it's fairly disgraceful that building codes and standards in hurricane tracks, whether they've had any majors lately or not, are not up to par to handle one.

Still looking at tomorrow. South Dakota now, maybe into MN/IA. I'm sure everything will change again by the morning. Wish me luck.
Ogion (3882 D)
18 Sep 17 UTC
Actually, it should make landfall in the US Wednesday.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
18 Sep 17 UTC
That's interesting. This is at 7 PM EST on Friday.

http://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=gfs&p=850wh&rh=2017091812&fh=108&r=conus&dpdt=

This is at 7 PM EST on Sunday.

http://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=gfs&p=850wh&rh=2017091812&fh=156&r=conus&dpdt=

Here's 7 PM EST on Monday, a week and a few hours from now.

http://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=gfs&p=850wh&rh=2017091812&fh=180&r=conus&dpdt=

If you're considering Puerto Rico or the other American islands in the Caribbean to be the USA, then yeah, you're right. Otherwise, you're not.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
18 Sep 17 UTC
The intersection with Jose off the east coast is actually an interesting scenario as it could push Maria north well off the coast of the United States, so much so that it never makes landfall in the Lower 48 at all.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
18 Sep 17 UTC
On the other hand, satellite imagery tracking gives it a more westward push than any of the current models indicate. Fun.
goldfinger0303 (3157 DMod)
18 Sep 17 UTC
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I mean, they are part of this country. I don't see why you wouldn't call it hitting the US. St. Thomas still pretty devastated from Irma.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
18 Sep 17 UTC
Because when the casual person thinks "major hurricane making landfall in the US," they're not thinking of St. Thomas or Puerto Rico and then making the logical conclusion that the continental US is actually 5-6 days out yet from feeling anything at all, nor do they figure that under certain circumstances, the continental US might not even see the hurricane at all. It's misleading. It's all good if you want to make a political game out of all these hurricanes by refusing to differentiate between St. Thomas and the Carolinas, lobbing them all under the category of "United States," and freak people out unnecessarily by telling them that a major hurricane is going to hit them in the next day or two, but weather forecasting is about awareness and safety and isn't supposed to mislead.
Ogion (3882 D)
18 Sep 17 UTC
Puerto Rico is part of the US. Full stop. What is misleading is to pretend it isn't and only count the Carolinas or Florida. Puerto Rican's are every bit as American as anyone else.
Ogion (3882 D)
18 Sep 17 UTC
The fact that it is a different part of the US is immaterial because guess what? Virtually the entire US Ian also not getting hit by Maria. So if someone says "Maria made landfall in the auS people in Idaho aren't going to panic. Obviously, it is a matter of being aware of your local situation.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
19 Sep 17 UTC
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I'm going to clarify this, since obviously political correctness trumps reality: there are some people in some high places, wearing suits and ties, walking around in Steve Maddens on marble floors, leaning up against limestone walls and putting their butts aged relic leather seats under fancy chandeliers that will tell you that "Puerto Ricans are every bit as American as anyone else." What they won't tell you is that over a hundred Puerto Ricans have lost their lives serving in the United States military and yet Puerto Ricans are not offered the chance to vote for President. They have no representation in either the House or the Senate. Puerto Ricans are stuck on an island waaaaay off the coast of the United States and hindered by the Jones Act, which makes everything more expensive for them and makes transporting goods to Puerto Rico doubly as expensive as it is to transport goods to neighboring nations that are not part of the United States. Their energy costs are twice as high as the rest of the United States. Their population is declining rapidly because they are, of course, free to move to the United States and gain all of the rights and privileges of an American citizen, including all of those above, but despite being legally termed American citizens while in Puerto Rico, they sport very few, if any, of the regular rights of citizens. Their unemployment is vastly higher than that of the United States. The median income of people in Puerto Rico is barely above what would result from the federal minimum wage, which explains why many businesses can't afford to hire people - they can't afford the federal minimum wage. The fucked up actions of the government there means that nobody is ever going to want anything to do with investing in Puerto Rico or otherwise trying to bring Puerto Rico into the sphere that Americans in the 50 states live within.

If Puerto Ricans "are every bit as American as anyone else," then feel free to help me understand why the only time they're treated like Americans instead of second-class citizens - quite literally, they're citizens that don't get treated like citizens - is when the second major hurricane in a two week span is headed their direction.

Now, since you can't, get off your high horse. Puerto Rico isn't a state, it's a territory, and our territories are comprised of citizens regarded as second-class citizens. If by some magic it became a state any time remotely soon, half of the people in this country would think it's full of rapists and criminals because obviously Puerto Ricans, Mexicans, and anyone of any Latin descent are all trying to steal our jobs and steal our country. Not to mention that they're all actually Mexicans. Duh.

Now that I got that off my chest...

What is misleading is to say that a hurricane is making landfall in the United States when it is, in fact, making landfall in Puerto Rico, St. Thomas, or fucking Guam for all I care. To the regular Billy Bob Murican, a hurricane making landfall in the United States is making landfall on the East Coast, in the Gulf, or maaaaybe every once awhile on the West Coast, not the Caribbean. If your goal is to be politically correct, then sure, go ahead and call little islands around the world the United States and set off alarms in millions more heads than you necessarily have to, but if that's your prerogative, then Billy Bob Murican is going to panic and flip a shit over the fact that there's a major hurricane making landfall. Cater to something incorrect if that's what most people know and understand most easily and for goodness sake don't expect people to be smart or aware of any local situation, because they never fucking are.

Good example - in 2013, a week after I left Oklahoma on the most shit-your-pants worthy chase ever (the chase that actually got me seriously into chasing, no less), the widest tornado ever recorded dropped as a multi vortex swirl in a field in El Reno. It grew, within minutes, just like the Moore tornado did, from a mean baby to a mean giant, and within just a few more minutes, it was over 2.5 miles wide with at least 6 subvortices within it. Here's a photo.

http://tinyurl.com/ybdbmwj3

It's a fun game of Where's Waldo, really, trying to find the tornado in that photo, because the whole fucking photo is the tornado. Anyway.

Some smart (/s) weatherman named Mike Morgan, who by the way didn't get fired and still works at KFOR in Oklahoma City, decided to tell people that this tornado, which at one point had peak winds of around 300 MPH, was going to impact them and that people without underground shelters should hop in their cars and hit the road south. Because people are dumb, thousands of people hit the streets south of Oklahoma City during rush hour and were all trying to go in the same direction - south. Traffic became a standstill. People tried the northbound lanes, going south. Lots of wrecks, lots of stupidity, and again, traffic became a standstill. Only by the grace of a god I don't believe in did that tornado pull up before it hit any one of the highways that all of these people were on. The death toll would have been in the high 3 digits. Instead, it was 9, and all of those people got to go back home. Had they stayed home and the wrath of that El Reno storm hit them, the damage would have been of biblical proportions, but they would have been in at least a somewhat sturdy home instead of a car with far better chances. By leaving, they were in a more dangerous situation than they were at home simply because everyone else was making the same panicky choice.

In the case of Hurricane Irma, the mass exodus out of southern Florida was honestly pretty epic. A trip up to the panhandle took over 24 hours. Lines at gas stations - the ones that actually had gas, that is - were hours long. Grocery shelves were empty. Cars were broken down on the side of the road and abandoned because roadside assistance couldn't actually get to them. Of course, the forecast of Irma wasn't particularly wrong; in fact, the hurricane stayed inside the always-faithful NWS cone throughout its entire track, from east of the Leewards through Florida and inland. That said, the hype of a major hurricane barreling inland created a panic, and whether justified or not, people panicking is bad. Maria isn't going to be here for 5-6 days and may not make landfall at all, so that would be an unjustified panic. So if all that you have to do in order to prevent that is cater to people's wrong understanding of Puerto Rico, St. Thomas, the Virgin Islands, etc., as not part of the United States, why mislead? Why expect dumb, panicky people to be smart all of a sudden? Makes no sense. That's why forecasters that aren't named Mike Morgan try their best not to do that.

Of course, you're again going to simply say that Puerto Rico is the United States, and again you're going to be completely right but in Billy Bob Murica's mind oh so wrong, so I don't even know why I typed out this whole thing anyway.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
19 Sep 17 UTC
Oh look, she's at Cat 5. How... the fuck...
Ogion (3882 D)
19 Sep 17 UTC
Pues, pendejo, maybe in your back water you like to say that the brown people in Puerto Rican aren't Americans, just like the black people of D.C. aren't, but they have US citizenship from birth. They don't gain it by "moving to the US" as you put it. Maybe in your neck of the woods people look down on Puerto Ticans, but here where Latinos are a major part of the population and many of us are Latino, we understand Puerto Rican's are our conuntrymen (and frankly a lot more sonthat the moron Bilky Bobs of the world). Of course, Puerto Rico is hugely richer than any of its Caribbean neighbors. Naturally, there are some pretty ugly reasons why Puerto Rico isn't a state, but that doesn't make Puerto Rican's not Americans anymore than people who live in DC aren't America just because D.C. Doesn't get a votes in the hugely unjust electoral college. So, no, don't even try to argue Puerto Rico isn't part of the US. Billy Bob can go fuck himself, as far as I am concerned (which you knew).
Ogion (3882 D)
19 Sep 17 UTC
Oh, and do I give two shits if a bunch of morons get themselves into trouble because they can check a weather map? Seriously, that's your argument? Having just dismissed the humanity of people in Puerto Rico and St thomas. (You know, your fellow Americans, you want me to weep that some dumb ass people in Georgia and Carolina flip their shit? Hahahaha
Ogion (3882 D)
19 Sep 17 UTC
Oh, gee, it hit cat 5 in an astonishingly short period of time. Almost unprecedented, except for Patricia. That's just hurricane season right?
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
19 Sep 17 UTC
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I'm not allowed to mute people. I'm not allowed to mute people. I'm not allowed to mute people.

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Condescension (10 D)
17 Sep 17 UTC
Class warfare GR game
I am interested in playing an anonymous, DSS, public draw vote open press game, with one player in each of the following categories:
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Condescension (10 D)
17 Sep 17 UTC
Secret Hitler
Would anyone be interested in playing Secret Hitler over the forum? I'd be able to GM.

It's similar to Mafia, but better in every way. You should be able to find the rules online.
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NManock18 (0 DX)
16 Sep 17 UTC
Question
How do you leave a game that's in progress?
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
16 Sep 17 UTC
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Boston Massacre starts today
Shoutouts to all the webDip members who could make it, and especially to Abge and RLH and 2WL for their thankless efforts in organizing.
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brainbomb (290 D)
16 Sep 17 UTC
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Juggalo March on Washington
https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/351013-the-best-signs-from-the-juggalo-march-in-washington%3famp
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ubercacher16 (283 D)
14 Sep 17 UTC
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New game for...
New game for those who share the same general political ideology as me.
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NManock18 (0 DX)
17 Sep 17 UTC
Variation
Can people post links to website that they use to design their own webdip variation? Thanks!
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mendesitba (100 D)
17 Sep 17 UTC
any live game now ?
??????
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Technostar (251 D)
16 Sep 17 UTC
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New Variant in Progress: Divided States.
I am looking for balancing feedback on my new variant, Divided States. The concept is simple: The US government has collapsed, and now every state is its own country and out for themselves.
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Al Swearengen (0 DX)
16 Sep 17 UTC
In the United States, We Have Powerful Legislation to Protect US From Communism
We have the ability to crack down on communists for subversive activity.

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Condescension (10 D)
15 Sep 17 UTC
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Wealth is coercive. Property is theft. Money's function is to launder away blood.
That's all.
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DammmmDaniel (100 D)
16 Sep 17 UTC
How to not procrastinate my college work?
I should really be writing my Lab Report for microbiology....
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JamesYanik (548 D)
07 Sep 17 UTC
Cat games are back
It was about time
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brainbomb (290 D)
14 Sep 17 UTC
Communism is the purest form of Government
I am going to start an American Communist movement focused on Climate Change Awareness, Redustribution of wealth, and eliminating all taxes
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Durga (3609 D)
14 Sep 17 UTC
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Webdip or r/The_Donald
Let's play a game. I'm going to post a series of quotes and you're going to guess if the quote is from webdip or r/The_Donald
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Aegon I Targaryen (100 D)
15 Sep 17 UTC
gunboat 726
game up in a few mins. 5 minutes per phase gunboat anonymous sum of squares games. Need a few people
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Giuseppe Garibaldi (100 D)
13 Sep 17 UTC
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Why did America elect a fat orange pervert as their president?
so strange. I'm interested to hear your thoughts
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