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CAPT Brad (40 DX)
01 Jun 17 UTC
Covfefe
Is this a new SNAFU or BOHICA?
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CommanderByron (801 D(S))
02 Jun 17 UTC
Interesting thought
If you have a cell phone type the word : "Diplomacy"
Then keep hitting your phones first suggestion until your message loops. Interesting to see how long/short or varied peoples lists will be.
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Oztra (30 DX)
31 May 17 UTC
What do people do outside of webDip?
Do people actually have lives outside of this game? What do people actually pursue with their existence? Who has the worst job? All of these burning questions, just waiting to be answered.
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brainbomb (290 D)
31 May 17 UTC
Trump pulls out
It appears the days where America cared about polar bears, rising sea levels, emissions, and trying to be a leader in changing our dying planet.... has all come to an end. RIP Earth.
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leon1122 (190 D)
03 Jun 17 UTC
Interesting thought
If you have a cell phone type the word : "President"
Then hit the first suggestion and press submit.
Interesting to who everyone's most talked-about President is.
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captainmeme (1723 DMod)
29 May 17 UTC
WebDiplomacy Survivor - Final Tribal Council
35 days ago, 21 castaways begun their journey in the webDiplomacy version of the famous reality game show. Now, only three - Balki Bartokomous, DemonOverlord, Fluminator - remain, and all have fought tooth and nail to make it this far.

The final victor will be decided by eleven of the players they voted out, and this is their opportunity to sway votes their way. Welcome to Final Tribal.
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"Balki, I would almost buy your "honor" pablum if I thought you would practice what you preach for even the slightest second. But alas, I do not."

Really? You don't think that I recognize when I'm bested? You think I would use my jury vote to set myself up better for future games?

Why would you ever say that about me? It's not true. I mean this from the bottom of my heart: I would never do this.

Just look at my opening statement. If I was thinking that way, I wouldn't be so brash. I'd be more like Demon. I'd tell people things like "hey, I didn't really want you to go home, but my hand was forced." I owned my stabs, and I expected people to say "yes, you got me. Shoot! Well done."

I expected, and expect the jury to take this vote seriously and award the best player. I don't expect them to use their vote for a meta-gaming personal agenda. I think that sucks. And it double-sucks that you say I am a bad player because I should have expected people would do that. I have a lot of respect for the people who played this game, and I don't think they will do that.
"This was your critical mistake - your inability to create your ideal jury. As I said, you burned too many bridges on your way to the final 3."

This is circuler jibberish, and you're smart enough to know it. And "burned too many bridges" is another way of saying "did all the work."

Blood on your hands is a good thing, Snowy. It means you played the game.

You wanted me out because you thought I would win at jury. Why don't you be honest and tell us why you thought I was going to win at jury? It's because I was controlling the game.
snowy801 (591 D)
01 Jun 17 UTC
I was never going to vote you out at the final 4, Balki. I knew I would easily triumph over you. Ezio and ghug was my most pressing concern.
@Snowy -- false, false, false.

I asked you for a final 3 deal, and you refused. You told me, straight-up, that you wanted to vote out me or Ezio because you thought we could beat you. This was a significant event in my memory Snowy, because it was your undoing, and it was the reason I lead the vote to snuff your torch.

Your suggestion now that "I was never going to vote you out at the final 4, Balki. I knew I would easily triumph over you." makes me sad for your soul.
Snowy, you just straight-up lied, as a juror, deciding who should win a game that you cannot win.

This makes me sick. What's the point?
snowy801 (591 D)
01 Jun 17 UTC
Transcripts, transcripts! Come get your transcripts!

I'll show you where I gave you my promise after Ezio died. I haven't lied until then, so why would I start there?
Fluminator (1500 D)
01 Jun 17 UTC
When it comes to inability to create your ideal jury, I do just want to say that Demon kind of lucked into this more ideal jury. If she had her way, she would have had a worse position.
I mean, she says in her opening speech that her ideal final 3 was demon, ghug, and Ezio. She would not win that one at all. Even earlier on she said she thinks Balki would be tougher to beat than ghug. If the final 3 was me, ghug, and demon, demon would be much less favoured to win. She really wasn't aware and I think she's shown she kind of lucked into it.
If she gets your vote fine, but I don't think it should be because of her long term planning for this endgame setup. Because she didn't plan it lol.
snowy801 (591 D)
01 Jun 17 UTC
Oh, actually I have to run. Give me an hour or so to crush this nonsense you're peddling. It's almost laughable that you claim to have thought that I'd vote you out
SNOWY, HERE IS WHAT YOU SAID:

WHAT SNOWY SAID IN THE GAME:
"There's no choice. If I side with you, Flum is our third no question. Really, the only real question I have is whether people will vote me for the win more over you, or Ezio. Because for all our talks about honesty and integrity, we're in it to win it, no? Final three is no position but you know what they say - if you're not #1 you're just a loser."

If you vote for Flum, you're a fucking fraud.

Sorry, I'm worked up. This really sucks. You had no reason to say this to me if what wasn't true. It was actually against your interest in the game, and got you voted out. You were too honest. You told me the truth. And now you deny that truth.

I am seriously bugged by this.
And Snowy, running to fetch your pleas to me after Ezio died are not constructive. I don't deny that you said you would not vote me out, after we blindsided Ezio. But I had much less trust for what you were saying then, when you were on the chopping block and I had just stabbed your ally.

I trusted what you said when you were safe, and it was against your interest to admit it.
God, I know it is not in my interest to call my jurors "a fucking fraud."

I guess I'm just here to be real and not sugarcoat.
Durga (3609 D)
01 Jun 17 UTC
Thx 4 pl@n1ng 4 m3 ur s0 k1nd.

Flum didn't get his ideal jury either so idk what he's smoking. In fact, creating a better one for me and a worse one for him is just kind of hilarious.
Fact is, when Snowy told me that (a) "for all our talks about honesty and integrity, we're in it to win it," (b) he would certainly take Flum to final jury, and (c) he was unsure about taking me or Ezio to final jury, I had a choice. I could ignore it, wait until final 4, and just hope that I win immunity so that I could prevent Snowy from fearvoting me and knocking me to jury. Or I could take my fate into my own hands and vote out Snowy before the final four.

This is the move that Flum says was my "biggest blunder." But it wasn't. It was taking my own fate into my own hands so that bad luck or things outside my control couldn't snuff my torch.

I voted Snowy because he was going to knock m out at final four, because he was afraid I would beat him at jury. He said that to me himself at a time when it was against his interest to do so.

@Jury, I hope you're reading this.

#askforthetranscript
#thetranscripttellsthetale
Durga (3609 D)
01 Jun 17 UTC
The people commenting are members of the jury that have clearly made up their mind, if anyone new or undecided wants to ask me anything I'll be around to answer.
Fluminator (1500 D)
01 Jun 17 UTC
No I didn't demon. But I was at least aware of what the best outcome for me would be.
Heck, after ghug got voted out Balki messaged me saying I was crazy for not voting him out and I told him Demon was the one I was more worried about.
I should get a transcript when I can.
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
01 Jun 17 UTC
Demon, why did you have to play the jealous girlfriend card on me? Couldn't we have just let him be polyamorous?
"Heck, after ghug got voted out Balki messaged me saying I was crazy for not voting him out and I told him Demon was the one I was more worried about.
I should get a transcript when I can."

I confirm. I believe Flum was crazy for not voting me out. It was a million dollar mistake. If I didn't make jury, Flum should have won. He was second best.
Durga (3609 D)
01 Jun 17 UTC
@bo sharing is tough for me. Bo, was there any way you would want me in your final three? I didn't really conceive it. Someone closer to ghug than myself could have been bad news when it came down to it.
Ezio (2181 D)
01 Jun 17 UTC
there once was an man called bartokomous
whose appetite for rhymes was bottomless
he stabbed all his friends
who then wound up dead
and his only defense is his pompousness
Ezio (2181 D)
01 Jun 17 UTC
It should probably say
"he stabbed his best friend
who then wound up dead"
to fit the rhyming scheme better
So you don't want to answer my last question? It's on thecladt page
I actually give you great respect for this rhyme. It is objectively good, and funny.

When other people do good things, even at my expense, I have to tip my cap. Well done.
Durga (3609 D)
01 Jun 17 UTC
No Vash, you keep asking me the same question in different ways and I'm sick of it. Balki isn't going to win so if you want your vote to count it's either me or Flum.
snowy801 (591 D)
01 Jun 17 UTC
(To: Turkey, from you) - Spring, 1901: Nah, this only gives me one final 3 scenario
Which I guess was your objective, so well done I suppose
It was also true that I wouldn't have been okay with this vote, so I guess I can't complain. How did this result come about?
Wed 24 May (To: Global, from England) - Spring, 1901: Very good game Ezio.
Wed 24 May (To: You, from Turkey) - Spring, 1901: There was a concern that you would not be okay with that vote. But I actually think this sets you up better. You two were perceived as a unit. I think this gives you more final 3 scenarios.

(To: You, from Turkey) - Spring, 1901: @Snowy, I very much have an open mind going into this next vote. For your information, my single criterion for narrowing the game to 4 is to increase my chances of surviving the next tribal counsel: 4-3. If you have thoughts on why I should fight to keep you in the game, you ought to focus them on that issue.
To: Turkey, from you) - Spring, 1901: Because I'll never vote you off?
Not sure if that needs elaboration

(To: Turkey, from you) - Spring, 1901: Well, here's my plan: follow or not is up to you
I'm going to claim to ghug and do that I have every confidence that my allies (you and Flum) will not betray me. Meanwhile, Flum will try to rally those two to vote me off this phase, and you will indicate your willingness to vote out either of us, so long as you are included in the final 3.
The hope is to stop do from using her white rock, and put three votes on ghug.
And even if on the off chance she doesn't save it for the final 4, well, your immunity will keep you safe in case of a tie

(To: Turkey, from you) - Spring, 1901: You know what - never mind, I thought the white rock gave you two votes
Yeah I'll be voting ghug this phase and expect that you will as well. If you habe disagreements please inform me

y (To: Turkey, from you) - Spring, 1901: Mate, I'm not pulling or pushing anyone. You just happen to be my last friends standing
Though I suppose you're right about everything else
Thu 25 May (To: You, from Turkey) - Spring, 1901: I'll be frank with you, it's a tough one for me. Here is what is swirling around in my head:

I feel like your pitch to the jury is actually a pretty good one. I think you'll be able to say, more than anyone else: "I played a loyal and honest game. I built strong alliances, I carefully considered what promises to make, and when I made a promise, I kept it. People on the jury, think about what promises I made to you, and what promises I didn't make. I always kept my promises. And that is why people believed they could put their faith in me, and that is why I was able to make it here to the very end of the game without winning or using a single immunity."

That's a great pitch, and it is a pitch that you, and only you, can make.

Because that has to be your winning angle, I don't think you would promise me a spot next to you at final tribal unless you intend to keep your promise. If you make that promise to me, and then break it, Jury Balki is going to be all over you. Jury Balki will not only not vote for you, but he will blow up your most powerful argument to be the sole Survivor.

So based on all that, I think that I can get a guarantee from you for the Final Three that is rock solid. Also, I think that because your pitch is one of honest, you actually set up the best possible jury for yourself by pulling in me and Flum to sit beside you. By doing that, you would be sitting against two people who broke the Birsan Final Four pledge, and you can draw a clear distinction between you and other players sitting next to you at jury.

Flum and Balki would split the "Flashy Plays Win" vote. You would get the "Honest and Loyal" vote, and you'd have a great chance to win.

So based on all of that, I am beginning to convince myself that you would indeed bring me to the final tribal with you, if given a chance.

(To: Turkey, from you) - Spring, 1901: Well, whatever the case, I'm voting ghug this phase and I believe Flum is as well
Thu 25 May (To: You, from Turkey) - Spring, 1901: I think you're overrating that survey. I think that survey hurts me in a lot of ways. For example, Ezio no doubt said he trusted me. And he'll no doubt have an axe to grind at jury. In fact, you'll be able to point to a vow that Ezio made to try to make sure Flum and I lose at jury.

Also, there were lots of reasons to answer that survey in particular ways other than your sincere belief.

So, I don't think "the great" is warranted before my name at all.

Plus, it was fairly evident at some point that you weren't intending to work with me. Hence:

(To: Turkey, from you) - Spring, 1901: Plus, I heard people feel guiltier about turning away from precommited actions
Fri 26 May (To: Turkey, from you) - Spring, 1901: I've never once worried that a friend would turn on me in this game - I must confess it's not a very pleasant experience, and would like to cease it post haste
Lay my fears to rest

I just think it's absolutely laughable that you claim you suspected for even a second that I wouldn't take you with me to the end. And this is just another facet of your inability to understand human motivation. You've already lost my vote, so who is this performance for? I don't think this is earning you points with any undecided, and I don't suspect I'm the one missing the obvious here.
snowy801 (591 D)
01 Jun 17 UTC
I still can't fathom why you chose to vote me out, but we both know it's not because you suspected that I would stab you.
And I'm trying to have a clearer more cohesive picture as I feel those responses lack an overarching theme. I'm asking for general motivations not specific ones.
@Snowy, because I care about honor, and I think you do too.

Let me post it again. This is what you said when I asked you for a final three, and you were safe, and it was against your interest:

SNOWY, HERE IS WHAT YOU SAID:

"There's no choice. If I side with you, Flum is our third no question. Really, the only real question I have is whether people will vote me for the win more over you, or Ezio. Because for all our talks about honesty and integrity, we're in it to win it, no? Final three is no position but you know what they say - if you're not #1 you're just a loser."
bo_sox48 (5202 DMod(G))
01 Jun 17 UTC
Demon, I would have been okay with you in the final three if you had been open and receptive like ghug was and been willing to coordinate a plan, but the fact of the matter was that you were plotting against me before I had even started to think about the final three. Even when we forced Moscow's death, it was quite clear that you wanted little to do with me. I wasn't sure exactly what I did at the time - or, rather, what was causing you to be so abrasive. Don't turn it around on me.
Do you see why that quote threatens me in the game? You said that "for all our talks about honesty and integrity, we're in it to win it, no?"

And you said Flum is in your final 3, but you're not sure about me or Ezio because "you know what they say - if you're not #1 you're just a loser."

You were telling me that you thought I was more dangerous than Flum in front of the jury because I played a better game. That's the first reason this is important.

The second reason is that this completely explains my stab of you. You did it to yourself. You made it clear that you would fearvote me, so I stabbed you. I set it up so that I couldn't lose.

You should tip your cap and say "well done."
"Balki isn't going to win so if you want your vote to count it's either me or Flum."

Don't count your chickens.

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CAPT Brad (40 DX)
03 Jun 17 UTC
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Colleges Celebrate Diversity With Separate Commencements
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/02/us/black-commencement-harvard.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=photo-spot-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0
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PhoenixFeathers13 (100 D)
03 Jun 17 UTC
2 Players needed
Help! We need two more players for a fun unranked game! http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=199852
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swagdaddy69 (100 D)
02 Jun 17 UTC
Interest in playing a live game this afternoon
Trying to get a live game going 5 minute turn. Willing to draw or pause whenever.
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
02 Jun 17 UTC
And here's the weather
https://weather.com/
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Clownie (295 D)
02 Jun 17 UTC
Supporting others against your own unit
I'll be circumspect about the description, for obvious reasons (game's ongoing, in case it wasn't sufficiently obvious). See below.
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LeonWalras (865 D)
02 Jun 17 UTC
Autocomplete public press
Basically the idea is to provide you with a centre so we can work together. The only press is public commitment to attack Italy. Every sentence may be in Gascony and the other games. The rest is autocompleted to find out what kind of player is required.
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CommanderByron (801 D(S))
01 Jun 17 UTC
Most offensive thread.
See inside.
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CommanderByron (801 D(S))
01 Jun 17 UTC
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Should this thread be locked?
See inside.
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Hellenic Riot (1626 D(G))
02 Jun 17 UTC
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June GR Published
https://sites.google.com/site/phpdiplomacytournaments/theghost-ratingslist
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Jamiet99uk (808 D)
01 Jun 17 UTC
America doesn't care about Earth
Fuck you, Trump. Fuck you, every cunt who voted for him. America is a force for evil. You need to be fucking obliterated.
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brainbomb (290 D)
01 Jun 17 UTC
Official Greatest Food Tournament Thread
See inside oven for details...
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CptMike (4457 D)
25 May 17 UTC
Survey - Diplomacy boardgame
I was just wondering... 100 % of us play on webDiplomacy.net. But how many of us have the boardgame, with the wooden blocks for the armies and boats... ?
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
24 May 17 UTC
webDiplomacy F2F tournament in MA, USA
We're only 4 months out from Boston Massacre folks, so now is the time to start making plans! If you're even remotely interested, please reach out to me so I can persuade you. And if you're very interested, go to www.BostonMassacreDiplomacy.com to register!
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CommanderByron (801 D(S))
01 Jun 17 UTC
"Trump pulls out" thread innuendo masked as title
The thread regarding trump leaving the Paris accords. Could be viewed very much as a slighted innuendo of Trumps past. He has been accused of some sketchy things. Discuss.
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Jacob63831 (160 D)
30 May 17 UTC
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Don't click on this
Really just don't
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
31 May 17 UTC
Is it true that covfefe = 0.99999 repeating?
You don't know shit about the covfefe
Bo is the covfefe
JMO gonna bring down the covfefe hammer
Have you heard the tale of Plagueis the Covfefe
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MajorMitchell (1874 D)
01 Jun 17 UTC
SEX, is it greater than, less than, or equal to 0.99999 recurring ?
Is SEX a problem for Trump ? Can be make America great at SEX again ?
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CommanderByron (801 D(S))
01 Jun 17 UTC
Trump pulls out
Unfortunately most of the women involved didn't be want him to push in.
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Jacob63831 (160 D)
26 May 17 UTC
Jelly or Jam
Which is better?
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brainbomb (290 D)
28 May 17 UTC
Rap and Hip Hop promote better capitalist values than Country or Rock
Rims, Gold Chains, Fancy Cars, Implants, Gold Teeth, Swimming Pools, Palm Trees, Mansions, "Ive made it culture", "Look at me". Are values pure to American capitalism and more purely espouse what America is.
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Babyburger (1564 D)
31 May 17 UTC
see older chat log
In the games I'm playing, the chat log only shows the most recent x amount of messages. Is there any way to consult older messages as well?
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Technostar (251 D)
21 May 17 UTC
Diplomacy and MBTI
I'm curious, what Myers-Briggs (MBTI) personality types do Diplomacy players have? Post your type here!

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WolfsBane626 (235 D)
30 May 17 UTC
Ancient Med
Anyone want to play an Ancient Med with 3 people who know each other?
3 replies
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Jacob63831 (160 D)
30 May 17 UTC
How to solve all of humanity's problems
http://www.healthline.com/health-news/parasites-in-your-intestines-may-actually-be-good-for-you-120315#2
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