"How does he plan to maintain the wall? Where did his figures come from. "

-Have you ever heard of the U.S. border patrol?

"One of the biggest reasons for the wall is to decrease criminal elements on the southern border such as drug trafficking and human trafficking."
A wall alone won't stop that. It's also pretty widespread north of the border already which takes some huge routing out that will cost even more money.

No ND I mean literal cost of maintenance. You know concrete doesn't last forever.

"-Have you ever heard of the U.S. border patrol?"
Not what he meant. He meant how will the infrastructure be maintained?

"Mexico and the United States are two different countries. It's not a fair comparison to compare anti-corruption policies in the U.S. to Mexico."
Why not? Both are federations with large populations, decent economies, and heaps of corruption.

I imagine some kind of provision in the deal that gets Mexico to build and pay for the wall will also include maintenance.

But that deal would never get approved in Mexico.

Yes it will.

And you think liberals are naive :)

http://www.transparency.org/cpi2015

As you can see Mexico is more corrupt than the United States according to this metric. So no, I don't think it is a fair comparison.

So Trump said this wall would be made of concrete, rebarb and steel. At lowest of a height of 35 feet and stretching 1000 miles. The cost of those materials is at lowest $15 billion dollar + cost of transportation + engineering design and management which is $25 billion (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/02/11/trumps-dubious-claim-that-his-border-wall-would-cost-8-billion/) . And maintenence costs would exceed initial construction costs after 7 years (from the CBO) SO uh....Since only $12 billion is sent in remitences by illegal immigrant from our best estimates . (http://www.politifact.com/arizona/statements/2016/apr/08/donald-trump/donald-trump-claims-most-wire-transfers-mexico-are/)

Math is pretty sketchy so far ND.

Also the Vincent Fox, Fiormer President of Mexico has said "I'm not going to pay for that fucking wall"

i.e Your coercion tactic isn't actually workable and they already don't want to pay for it.

"As you can see Mexico is more corrupt than the United States according to this metric. So no, I don't think it is a fair comparison"
Even with 3 times the amount of time Trump will have in office?

Well Fox is no longer the President of Mexico so I don't think he is authorized to give actual policy positions anymore.

Also trade is between companies not governments (I think TR mentioned this) so that coercion tactic can't work either.

"Even with 3 times the amount of time Trump will have in office?"

No clue what that means. If you are implying that Trump will be corrupt that is fairly laughable.

Fox may not be, but he still has a lot of political power and this is just more indicative of a general sentiment and you ignored math ND.

@Vashta: I am not the engineer of the wall. I don't know how correct your facts are. However, I am confident that if someone who has built entire skylines says it can be done then it can be done.

"Also the Vincent Fox, Fiormer President of Mexico has said "I'm not going to pay for that fucking wall""
Vicente Fox, the other PAN president (Felipe Calderon), Enrique Peña Nieto, and Peña Nieto's Foreign Secretary all said the wall is off the table. These are from the top 2 parties in Mexico. Mexican politicians won't get behind it.

""Even with 3 times the amount of time Trump will have in office?"

No clue what that means. If you are implying that Trump will be corrupt that is fairly laughable."
No, I mean that Mexican presidents serve six years, and the PAN, which had two presidents, has been pretty big about campaigning on targeting corruption and removing it from Mexico. That's twelve years. Trump would likely only be president for 4. So he would have a third the time.

@ND: That's why I linked the fucking article.

That may be their position now, but give it time. I guarantee you by the end of Trump's first term it will be built.

You know where they talked to someone who builds fucking skylines who political career doesn't revolve around this claim.

Whoever wins 2016 won't get a second term. You don't have to specify "first," ND.

"Whoever wins 2016 won't get a second term. You don't have to specify "first," ND."

Probably true, unless the repubs run Trump again if Hillary wins.

Unfortunately politifact is a biased source.

http://www.newsmax.com/Reagan/PolitiFact-Fact-Checkers-Bias/2015/03/20/id/631565/

impossible to know if Trump or Clinton would get a second term.

"Probably true, unless the repubs run Trump again if Hillary wins."
Won't happen. Political suicide basically. Hasn't since Dewey lost twice, won't ever happen again.