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Double Agent Game - Influence Opponent Moves

Join a game where you can direct opponent moves (rules below)

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School Administrators

They can't seem to focus on important issues... instead focusing on things like arbitrary dress code violations and dumb discussions like whether or not history is worth learning about. I guess they think it's not their job to stop drug use or work with kids on their academics. Maybe sex in middle school isn't a problem to them. What gives?

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GUNSHIP DIPLOMACY IN ONE HOUR

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=110432

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Sharks

Be scared... the number of annual deaths by sharks went up this past year! It's coming, folks... the sharks will take over the world! We must kill more! MORE, I SAY, MORE!! 70 million sharks deaths a year is not enough... we must deliver retribution!

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Military Benefits

http://www.esquire.com/features/man-who-shot-osama-bin-laden-0313?click=pp

These are the things that bug me... these are the stories that say I have no reason to be a soldier and that I shouldn't enlist because I don't get any respect for it... these are the things that scare me away, not warfare.

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Unpause request

We paused our game for a weekend break but now clicking 'unpause' doesn't seem to do anything. Can a mod please unpause?
Game: gameID=109269

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Books you recomend

Post here books that you recommend reading in the subject of military history or current developments, strategies, negotiations techniques etc. If you wish you may elaborate on the book to make it more interesting.

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WWII Variant Test game

Testing games being held at "http://lab.vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=28"

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VDiplomacy

http://vdiplomacy.com/board.php?gameID=12423

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Hypocrisy

Hypocrisy, I think, is one of the worst human traits, because it violates the rules of rhetoric and deceives both the hypocrite and their listener, obstructing reason and acceptance in the way of subversion and blind authority.

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The atheist experience

Anybody ever watch this? These guys are absolutely brilliant. This is just one of many hilarious clips:

https://mail.google.com/mail/?shva=1#sent/13c64f84f236f8a2

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Proposed new Union Jack

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-IMECGFsgP1w/URkSBeZ9_NI/AAAAAAAAA-0/JvXZh77s8i0/s499/uk.bmp

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Question - how does this work?

Available points: 26875
Points in play: 0
Total points: 55199
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Mission To Mars...Fun To Dream About...Make It Happen, You Science-Type People Here!

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/story/2012/09/12/manned-mars-mission-still-on-track/57767950/1 "If the time line holds, a manned test flight of the Space Launch System and Orion capsule will take place in 2021. If that's successful, an asteroid landing would be feasible by 2025, followed by a landing on Mars sometime in the 2030s." (If YOU could go on that trip, and leave one thing on The Red Planet, there until the last syllable of recorded time, what would it be?)

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Need People

A password world game was started with random people given the password. Only six have signed up and now the game is stuck at the same number of players with 5 days left. The game is "The Red Pill" and the password is matrix. Please join.

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Cassus Belli Variant

See below

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Replacement Pope

#Thucy2013

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Russian Gold Buying Binge

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-10/putin-turns-black-gold-into-bullion-as-russia-out-buys-world.html

Thoughts? Russia is on a gold buying binge. Thoughts? Are they acknowledging something about the global economy and the potential demise of the US dollar?

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Uncommon Alliances

A question I've posed many times in the past to specific people but never here... what are some uncommon press alliances that work as well as any juggernaut/WT/etc.? My favorite's the Mediterranean triple but nobody else seems to like it o_O

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Why is the west supporting Muhamed Morsi again?

He's an anti-Semite (no, we're not going to argue the word anti-Semite and I use it in the colloquial sense where it means anti-Jewish) reactionary woman-repressing islamist. He's not our friend. Discuss.

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Looks like the EU leaders got the message..

Great news, the EU budget is going DOWN! Look at the agricultural budget! Yummie!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21386818

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lead paint causes crime

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jan/07/violent-crime-lead-poisoning-british-export

Another factor of socioeconomic theory that is rather interesting.

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Masters Interest

This is just a thread to judge if there is enough interest in the community to start another round of the Masters. Note that this tourney does take more than 40 players to start, and will take 6-8 months to complete. I'm gonna try to keep this to top 200 GR, due to complaints about the quality of the last round.

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josunice (3702 )
02 Feb 13 UTC

No Draws? Why would it not be credit for the portion of the 7 ways earned x2? 14 for a solo, 7 for a 2-way, 4.67 for 3-way, 3.5 for a 4-way, etc.? Use a higher multiple or square it if you wish to give greater weight to a solo, but It does the game no justice to give equally no credit to being eliminated and participating in a three way draw.

Also, we are only going to play 7 rounds and each power once, right? If the consensus is 48 hour turns, what will be the schedule of launching new games? three to begin, then two more each two weeks or so? I have yet to play as long a time -- it must take a month to get to 1903...

Yonni (136 )
02 Feb 13 UTC

I'm quite excited to see how solos only plays out. Speaking as an ashamedly cautious player, the objective often isn't to play for the draw but rather to stop the solo. I have my doubts whether or not this format will inspire a more aggressive attitude but I have my doubts.

At any rate, it's novel and should be fun.

Gen. Lee (7588 )
02 Feb 13 UTC

I'm excited about no draws as well. But i don't see how anyone scores. There should be 5 or less solos for the 48 or 49 games.

goldfinger0303 (3157 )
02 Feb 13 UTC

No points for draws. That's how it is, and how this tournament shall always be. TheWizard won last year's tournament, with Dejan0707 in 2nd and TheHangedMan in 3rd. I'll be creating a prize for 4th place this year as well. As for previous winners, I don't know. Its meant to incentivize people to keep playing until a solo happens, and it certainly worked in my experience (most of my draws were accidental, since the draw vote became a diplomatic tool). Games will launch every month or so.

goldfinger0303 (3157 )
02 Feb 13 UTC

And to put it in perspective, there were 15 solos in the last Masters, which had 56 games played. That's more than a quarter of games ending in a solo.

Gen. Lee (7588 )
02 Feb 13 UTC

Wow that is ridiculous, were folks just throwing games....

TheMinisterOfWar (553 )
02 Feb 13 UTC

I love the no draw rule! More games should be like that.

Yonni (136 )
02 Feb 13 UTC

Add that as a feature request -
Medals in people's profiles for winning major tournaments.

goldfinger0303 (3157 )
03 Feb 13 UTC

Bump. Need more volunteers who will set up games

MadMarx (36299 )
03 Feb 13 UTC

I can set up games, if people in the tournament are allowed to...

slyster (3934 )
03 Feb 13 UTC

I can set up a game to, but only starting the 18th!

bo_sox48 (5202 )
03 Feb 13 UTC

Why play without draws? Playing without draws doesn't judge how good of a diplomat you are, nor how good an overall player you are. It judges how good you are at taking everything, which only happens in a small portion of games. 15 out of 56 last year... if you'd included draws, would the results have been different? Would they have been closer at least?

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It's not playing without draws bo, it's just not incentivizing boring planned three ways like most important full press games do. The value in a draw is that nobody else gets the solo, which is all the value in the draw should be.

goldfinger0303 (3157 )
03 Feb 13 UTC

Yeah MM - I mean, I suppose I could set up all the games then leave them, but the way it was done last time was each "group leader" would set up their rounds (at request of the TD), email the password and link to the TD, who would in turn email it out to the rest of the players. I'll put down MM, Yonni, and sly as leaders.

and bo - that's just how it is. You can only win in diplomacy by soloing - there are no shared victories. And it may have been closer, but the results wouldn't have changed. TheWizard, Dejan, and THM spanked the rest of the competition soundly.

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03 Feb 13 UTC

And I believe in voting we settled on 48 hour phases. And due to difficulties regarding setting up the 42 player scheme, we'll be going with the 49....for now. I'll give it one last crack tonight and tomorrow to see if I can manually fix it.

bo_sox48 (5202 )
03 Feb 13 UTC

That's reasonable, but that's also an unnecessary alteration of something that really isn't an issue. Games will just go on until 1946 because three way draws stab and stalemate and back off and ally and stab and stalemate again. The cycle continues. Add some kind of rule that says stalemates are the end of a game and then playing without a score on draws is fine, but that'll just go on forever if you only play for solos.

ghug (5068 )
03 Feb 13 UTC

I can set up games.

goldfinger0303 (3157 )
03 Feb 13 UTC

bo - when players start talking about the draw in 1905-6, its an issue. As I said, most of my games went on into the 1920s/1930s and I loved every second of them. It is exactly as you describe - stab, stalemate, back off, try again. But doing that is incredible fun.

bo_sox48 (5202 )
03 Feb 13 UTC

Suit yourself. Did players draw because they got bored of that game or because someone threw? If only 15 of 56 ended in solos, how many of these games simply go to waste?

goldfinger0303 (3157 )
03 Feb 13 UTC

bo - its just how the tournament was designed, and I won't be changing that. I'm already deviating enough by allowing it to go to 48hr phases and considering 42 player settings. The other games do not contribute to the score of the tournament, if that's what you're referring to. But by drawing, players can prevent *another* player from scoring, which is just as important.

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03 Feb 13 UTC
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WHAT?!?!

"most of my games went on into the 1920s/1930s"

With 48 hour phases, those games had to take at least six months each, and that's with no pauses... I'm going to have to seriously rethink this, I'd *much* prefer to play three games that go to 1910 than one game that goes to 1930, and playing *seven* games that go to 1930 would... not be something I'd knowingly seek out... No offense...

goldfinger0303 (3157 )
03 Feb 13 UTC

None taken MM - but please don't judge the tournament by my experience. My games were also, I believe the *only* ones to stretch into the 1920s/1930s. Maybe one other got into the 20s. I just have a knack for extending games (in another one currently that's in 1921 and will easily go 5 more years) I think people just love my charm so much that they don't want the game to end....

Octavious (2701 )
03 Feb 13 UTC

I don't recall the games I played in the last tournament being unusually long. I do recall a single player being responsible for a good third of the tournament's solos by being the most inept idiot possible and handing them to people on a plate.

MadMarx (36299 )
03 Feb 13 UTC

Well don't scare me like that goldfinger! And you say you're not playing, right? ;-)

ghug (5068 )
03 Feb 13 UTC

Really Oct, who was that?

MM, don't worry, most of them are normal length.

goldfinger0303 (3157 )
03 Feb 13 UTC

TrustMe caused most of the solos, I believe. Many happened later due to the....diminished....quality of subs.

Yonni (136 )
03 Feb 13 UTC

MM, meet Bobby Fischer. Bobby Fischer, meet MM. I think you guys will get along swimmingly. ; )

bo_sox48 (5202 )
03 Feb 13 UTC

If we're going to play insanely long games, we are going to need to be extremely flexible on pauses. I know two or three months into the future right now. I can't prearrange anything that I don't know exists yet...

goldfinger0303 (3157 )
03 Feb 13 UTC

bo - round 7 is going to be slated to start end of may/beginning of june.

2 rounds a month: february -1&2, march - 3&4, april - 5&6, may - 7

bo_sox48 (5202 )
03 Feb 13 UTC

In other words, round 7 will end sometime in December.

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Brand new stupid question of the day

I've been looking back on some of my previous games and I see that there are several people who I've played with that have a big red x next to their names. Is it safe to assume that these players were banned for something? Or am I completely wrong on this?

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Free market pharma?

see:
1 ) the problem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPf8vwnoEtU
2) the solution? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qx8FWdMTkrM
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Austria issue

I have searched the forum for similar topic, haven't found any. However if the issue was somewhere discussed just delete the thread.

Playing Austria is very difficult in most of the cases. Moreover, players usually tend to play a pattern of "lets kill Austria first." Although you may say it is a natural fate of nations that some are stronger other are weaker, personally I think that in the game Austria should have a more equal chances (...)

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NCAAM...

... one of the most exciting seasons in recent memory up to this point. The top teams can't stay at the top; the bottom teams come out of nowhere; top-five teams go down like flies; and, oh, by the way, 5 OTs...

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One player needed for Classic game

One player needed for a Classic game with 24-hour phase starting in about eight hours. Six people in the game currently, all friends, all relatively new to the game. Looking for someone with under 20 games played to join and make up the numbers. PM me or reply below and I'll send the password.
http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=109951

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LIVE game

Anybody up for a quick live game? Starts in one hour. gameID=110264

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Raymond Towler - a true inspiration

Asked on radio whether he was angry after being wrongly imprisoned for so many years he said "anger only consumes the vessel that contains it".
If you have forgotten his story see below

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