Yeah, i only know 1 person who i think is using multiple accounts (well in a way he told me he was) but other than that :/ of course they would be hard to track. I think the 1 account per IP or MAC address should be used. I mean if they were really determined they could use emulators but best i can think of.

it's better to do it per mac if possible becuase most major companies use nat so you'll effectivelly ban all the people that play from work. Don't do it, man, don't make us take arms :D

There has already been an EXTENSIVE conversation on this topic, though at this point it has dropped off the end of the forum. In short, kestas stated that there would be no tieing of account to IP or MAC address. For one thing, it prevents a player from logging in from more than one location (work, home, school, etc.).

Honestly, anyone who has to make multiple accounts to win a simple Diplomacy game is truly pathetic. There is no incentive to cheat here, you don't recieve anything for winning, there is no valid scoring system, so why do it?

For respect? Does it make you feel good about yourself? Seriously, why would you play Diplomacy if you aren't going to use any. That being said, I think it's simpler to not tie IP's. People who are victim to multiple account abusers, take in to account that while they have nothing to gain, you have nothing really to lose. So don't worry. ; )

Well, there is the prize for reaching Diplomat status. But other than that there's no reason to cheat.

why is there a prize for reaching Diplomat status? i've heard it's money, but who pays for this?

It's paid from the International Diplomacy Institute Of Thought on April 1st each year.

If you want to register for eligibility, please send $5 to my postal box.

ha ha, very funny.





... seriously?

I think figlesquiggle is in charge of the reward

LOL ok if you keep finding motives for multiaccount then let a thousand accounts bloom...

...And I agree with Chrispminis on the pathetic side of cheating at dip

There are two people I'm playing with who it's very obvious that they're the same person. It's really really obvious.

Point that out to everyone else in the game, and see how fast the game tur ns against them. =P

who?

Well, by the time I realized it, they were the two dominant powers. There's so many things that point out they're the same person, however I'd rather not discuss what those things are publicly. Take a look at the game "Diplomat" (http://www.phpdiplomacy.net/board.php?gid=392) and let me know what you think...

I don't see all that much. There was an incredibly trusting alliance going on between austria and turkey for a bit, but that seems to have changed. You (Italy) let a bunch of turkish fleets move through the Mediterranean early on in a rather questionable fashion.

The biggest thing I noticed was Germany's destruction. It went from dominant power to next to nothing in a few short years.

I've seen worse fate befall Germany. =\

Anyways, I don't exactly know what I am supposed to see there either. Perhaps it's more obvious to you being that you played the game and corresponded with the players, but I see nothing suspicious. All I see is quite interesting and trusting play between all players.

I'd like to point out that JuniorC and KLKC registered on the same date, and always play together, except in one game. Highly suspicious, no?

I'm thinking that they're probably friends, who know each other personally.

Chrispminis there's one other thing that you're missing in terms of if they're the same person.

Dangermouse, we all allied against Germany after it became a dominant power. I was in a very tight spot and really had no other good options. At that point in time I felt that they were different people, however now I'm convinced they're the same.

Ex: I'm took over a country and got double by a person with 2 profiles.

I for one, know that Motto and Grotto are the same person. However, being his friend, think that he should be given a warning and ban his "Motto" account.

That is a good idea. They should let him choose which acount will be banned, though.

In addition to a ranking system, how about a version of the blind-queue (used, for example, in Magic Online drafting). Players who want to join a game tell the site "I'm ready to play", then when there are say 15 players in this state, it selects 7 of them at random and creates a game.
This wouldn't eliminate multiple-accounts-per-player, but it would reduce the effectiveness, because there's no guarantee that your multiples would end up in the same game...
Combine that with maybe a reasonable upper-bound on accounts per IP address...Say 3 accounts per IP - how many households have more than 3 players sharing the computer? Probably less than there are annoying multi-accounters out there...

Future versions will have much more strict checks, requiring an e-mail address per account and looking for suspicious IPs, cookies, and identical passwords, which should all come together to make multiple accounts less appealing.

Also the score system will probably give fewer points to people who repeatedly win with the same other people.

"I for one, know that Motto and Grotto are the same person. However, being his friend, think that he should be given a warning and ban his "Motto" account."
ROFL, he attacked me in one game with italy and turkey. I was austria. As a result of his attack, you can see nice lines crossing names motto and grotto :>
There are people who are so blatant with abuse of multiple chars that is offends. I mean, there is a guy in a game I play that uses 2nd char to "store" supply centers for him. He doesn't respond to diplomacy, doesn't do anything, just holds territories until his main account comes and takes them. He even helps himself forming instant alliances. I'd like to leave that game since I'm sick to watch that behaviour but alas, there is no leave button. Also, your friend in his motto incarnation is there, skips turns and doesn't respond to diplomacy as usual.

Schools, internet cafes, etc. all may have more than 3 players on a single IP.

It really seems like kestas is on top of things however, and I'm really eager to see his score system implemented. Like I said earlier, a good scoring system would solve a lot of our problems.

what exactly would an "Accounts per IP" limit do? this is confusing:

at our school we have maybe 10 to 15 players, but the computers have different IPs. however, we don't use the same computer all the time, (one day i use the second computer in the back row, then the first computer in the fourth, etc) and when we use a computer that has already been used, would the system just kick us out and say "Sorry, you are the fourth player to log in on this IP. All players are now being banned." ? That would be kinda stupid.

Shouldn't you be learning in school? :-P