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redhouse1938 (429 D)
25 Aug 15 UTC
Trump
Hmm...
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/donald-trump-megyn-kelly-twitter-tirade-121707.html?hp=rc3_4_b1
My guess is he's actually a very insecure person who's now deliberately turning himself into a caricature so as to be absolutely unelectable.
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No no, this has been going on for a long time now, with the immature Twitter wars and insensitive comments. People keep predicting that, at some point, people are going to come to their senses about Trump and all his supporters will abandon him, but if it's ever going to happen, why hasn't it already?
TrPrado (461 D)
25 Aug 15 UTC
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Because he's not the establishment. The establishment is worse than Trump in the eyes of his supporters.
ssorenn (0 DX)
25 Aug 15 UTC
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Trump in not electable, that said, he's bringing issues to the forefront that more tenured politicians wont ever talk about. that's why he has traction with people. TrPrado has it kinda right
principians (881 D)
25 Aug 15 UTC
http://dailycandidnews.com/wp-content/uploads/11214242_10100642519867141_1865604589451558805_n-623x630.jpg
Jeff Kuta (2066 D)
25 Aug 15 UTC
Because no press is bad press and Fox is eating it up. There are still potentially a dozen more debates to go. Trump is notorious and is he is loving every minute of this. It's almost real to him.
JamesYanik (548 D)
26 Aug 15 UTC
almost
Randomizer (722 D)
26 Aug 15 UTC
People want to watch a train wreck and Fox wants the ratings.
principians (881 D)
26 Aug 15 UTC
"Donald Trump is no doubt a wealthy buffoon — but he is a buffoon who understands the underlying passions of the GOP base"

http://www.salon.com/2015/07/25/donald_trump_is_an_actual_fascist_what_his_surging_popularity_says_about_the_gop_base/

This article insists on Trump and GOP not being actual fascists, but having parallels with fascism that cannot be overlooked.

I'd only add, regarding the words of Umberto Ecco, that China is a perfect working example of "absolute state control with a free market" (maybe we should question how much "free" is the "free market")
Jamiet99uk (808 D)
26 Aug 15 UTC
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I bet Krellin would vote for Donald Trump.
2ndWhiteLine (2606 D(B))
26 Aug 15 UTC
What "issues" are being brought to the forefront by Trump? Please elaborate. He's just taking reactionary positions to standard GOP talking points but positioning himself as a political-correctness-be-damned blowhard who says what the "real America" is thinking. There's nothing original coming out of the Trump camp except hot air.
Apparently "nobody would even be talking about immigration" if Trump hadn't brought it up. That's what he claims, at least.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
27 Aug 15 UTC
Trump is a fascist, yes. I seem to recall getting mocked for saying on this forum that fascism is increasingly a feature of political life in western countries. Meanwhile neo-Nazis in germany set fire to refugee shelters, Hungary is building a massive border wall, trump is chomping at the bit to do the same in America, and Americans are still unprepared to denounce Israel for it's colonialist settlement policies. To name a few
SantaClausowitz (360 D)
27 Aug 15 UTC
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You should be mocked because you have no fucking clue what fascism is and means, not to mention that you are a clown
Thucydides (864 D(B))
27 Aug 15 UTC
The dictionary definition is good enough for me:

"(sometimes initial capital letter) a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism."

Dictator, oligarchy. Very little functional difference.
orathaic (1009 D(B))
27 Aug 15 UTC
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Is China dictatorship or functioning democracy?

Is the EU being run by a bunch of bureaucrats on the European Commission?

Is the two-party system in the US sham front where corporations buy powerand elections and pay for both sides so they win regardless o the vote?

I don't think fascism and corporatism are exactly the same thing. If Bernie Sanders is correct, corporations want the US population to be afraid of migrants (and allow minimum wage to drop to prevent companies heading to China) so they can focus their fear outward and ignore the injustices being done at home.

But i don't think this quiet wualifies as Fascism.
So trump would be a dictator...
IshmaelGuantanamoIV (100 D)
27 Aug 15 UTC
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No, it doesn't quiet wualify at all.
SantaClausowitz (360 D)
27 Aug 15 UTC
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I assume that you jump on the glen beck train and say that the ussr was fascist...
ckroberts (3548 D)
27 Aug 15 UTC
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Trump's troll game is so strong, and he has elevated it Jordan-like as the stakes have increased; I am constantly amazed. He's the Arnold Palmer of trolling, the Rembrandt of trolling. Students will be studying Trump in a hundred years alongside the other masters of Dada and performance art.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
27 Aug 15 UTC
The USSR had many fascist elements, yes. That they used the rhetoric of communism to justify themselves is not so important. Now, I grant you, there were many substantive differences between the Soviet autocracies and the fascist countries, chiefly the role of tradition, but to prove my point, I say, look at Putin's Russia. Essentially fascist. How was that such an easy transition from the USSR 20 years ago? Because they had a form of fascism before.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
27 Aug 15 UTC
And the same can be said for modern DPRK
Thucydides (864 D(B))
27 Aug 15 UTC
Bottom line is: you don't have to have the surname Mussolini or Franco or Hitler to be fairly compared to a fascist.

Those guys were useful in the way that Trump is useful: they were extreme forms of what he have long had in diluted form, and so gave us a sense of the Platonic ideal or logical conclusion of what we deal with on a regular basis in more normal circumstances. Feudalism gives way to fascism, but very little substantive change takes place.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
27 Aug 15 UTC
And if I was to provide my own definition of fascism it would badically be this:

A system of centralized undemocratic power in which dissent is suppressed by the creation and dissemination of an ideology or value system via propaganda, the unique features of which usually involve aggression, selfishness, military-worship, nationalism/superiority complex, and a hatred for egalitarian communities.

Fascism is the logical conclusion of backlash to the Enlightenment. It is the ultimate counter-revolution, counter-reformation, and everything else. It is on the right for a reason.
SantaClausowitz (360 D)
27 Aug 15 UTC
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But it isn't on the right... You definition encompasses, left and right equally, WWII America according to your brain dead definition was without a doubt fascist
SantaClausowitz (360 D)
27 Aug 15 UTC
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I guess it's less a problem of definition than application.

Your true definition would be

Fascim: (Noun) something I don't agree with
Thucydides (864 D(B))
27 Aug 15 UTC
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"WWII America according to your brain dead definition was without a doubt fascist"

Well, it kind of was. If the shoe fits...

Internment camps? Propaganda campaigns? We're obviously not above that stuff just because we America
Thucydides (864 D(B))
27 Aug 15 UTC
And the fact that there was an attempted fascist coup before we declared war, along with all sorts of nazi sympathizers here, speaks to that quite clearly. A pity you chose such a simple example
Jamiet99uk (808 D)
27 Aug 15 UTC
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People on all sides of politics use propaganda, there is nothing specifically fascist in character about the use of propaganda, and propaganda was used by various groups, states, and religious organisations well before the concept of fascism emerged.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
27 Aug 15 UTC
What you don't understand is that fascism existed before the word did. Pharonic Egypt was fascist in many ways. Try some critical thinking: look into an ideology and identify its salient features and then think broadly about how those ideas manifest in other places. You don't have to wear a swastika to be a fascist just as you don't have to be Strom Thurmond to be a racist.
Thucydides (864 D(B))
27 Aug 15 UTC
Fascist as a word is important today because of the legacy and example left by hitler. Just like how trump is showing what is so dangerous and toxic about the american far right, hitler shows us what is so dangerous and toxic about the General features of fascism.

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leon1122 (190 D)
26 Aug 15 UTC
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Suggestion
This website should have statistics for each country of each map (wins, draws, losses, etc.) like vdiplomacy.

I know this is a feature request and I'm supposed to check the todo list, but the forum that the "todo list" link directs to doesn't seem to have been used since last year, and I can't seem to find the actual list anywhere.
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DeathLlama8 (514 D)
03 Sep 15 UTC
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Let's Make an Openings Compilation/Magazine
As above, below.
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Tolstoy (1962 D)
04 Sep 15 UTC
Should Christian Doctors be forced to perform abortions, or face prison time?
It's a perfectly legal medical procedure. If Christian marriage license clerks aren't allowed to refuse to license gay marriages, why not?
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backscratcher (459 D)
05 Sep 15 UTC
Help needed, someone please pick up France in TheModerne
Help needed, someone please pick up France in the game TheModerne.
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
14 Jul 15 UTC
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Gunboat SOW - Summer 2015
This thread is for the Summer 2015 Gunboat School of War (SOW). Please be courteous to those running the game and respect any reasonable requests they may make. This semester the Gunboat School of War will be overseen by Yaleunc and Valis2501. gameID=164473
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Zach0805 (100 D)
05 Sep 15 UTC
Anniversary
Join the 12th game in the Fall of Labor Day series in its 12 month anniversary
(The game number and months are the same)
You only have 3 days because this game is starting on Labor Day
gameID=166982
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IRidePigs (1386 D)
04 Sep 15 UTC
New Medium Skill Level Game
Hey all, I'm starting a game for players who want a competitive game but aren't at an extremely high skill level. Starting bet is 150 D. WTA, hidden draw votes. Phases last 24 hours.

Game Id: gameID=166928
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
05 Sep 15 UTC
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Fresh off the presses! SoW Winter 2015 Recap!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re_oHsbd0QE

A quick recap of the last SoW threadID=1234165
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D.Trump (40 DX)
01 Sep 15 UTC
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America's Abortion Issue
If you think a fertilized egg is living but not millions of refugees, you've got some rethinking to do.
142 replies
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abgemacht (1076 D(G))
01 Sep 15 UTC
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webDip Presents Gunboat Commentary with Valis!
We are currently hard at work on original content. In the meantime, though, check out the first 4 videos of Valis' awesome Gunboat commentary series! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vFFJpr_UqA&index=1&list=PLtzcMVBliKRLu23NLGvc4h87LtDEFC4lR
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Check_mate (100 D)
27 Aug 15 UTC
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Another f2f in London?
seems to be a growing appetite for f2f's, and as there are American and Dutch ones currently or recently planned / in the pipeline, I thought I'd see if there was any demand for another one in London (or elsewhere in the UK). Really enjoyed my first f2f experience at that gathering back in March.
16 replies
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rojimy1123 (597 D)
01 Sep 15 UTC
Favorite Coloquial Rude Phrase
Personal favorite, currently, is douche canoe. Thoughts? Opinions?
3 replies
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__________ (0 DX)
01 Sep 15 UTC
Iran Nuclear Deal
Should America have let Iran build Nuclear Weapons?
57 replies
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Valis2501 (2850 D(G))
04 Sep 15 UTC
BGG Con / Texas
https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1429189/bggcon-diplomacy-play
Anyone know anything or want to help put together something?
11/18-11/22
Hyatt Regency DFW Airport
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Diploman123 (0 DX)
03 Sep 15 UTC
7 or 5 person game soon
are there people that are willing to start a fast game soon so we can all join at once and have a fast game? I believe we need to organize before so post if you can start a game within the next 10 or so minutes
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curtis (8870 D)
03 Sep 15 UTC
Med Game for Rich
Why cant I join?
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TheMinisterOfWar (553 D)
24 Aug 15 UTC
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Face To Face in Groningen, Netherlands
Sunday 30 August there, the Netherlands Diplomacy Association (freshly set up) will be organising a game in Groningen. Almost two tables already, so PM me if you're interested! You can also sign up on the official NDA mailing list:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/nederdip
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Quick Tactical Question
If Russia agrees to be part of a Sea Lion, is it typically expected to move Army Moscow to St Pete's on the opening phase?
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jmo1121109 (3812 D)
01 Sep 15 UTC
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CD Takeover Refund
Anyone who takes over an open position can post here (non anon games) or pm me (anon games) for a full refund on the position until September 10th.
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Caballo Blanco (1005 D)
02 Sep 15 UTC
September Ghost Ratings!
Oh where are you...
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Chaqa (3971 D(B))
31 Aug 15 UTC
Lusthog?
It's been awhile, is anyone up for a new round? Maybe like 3 or 4 games?
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thdfrance (162 D)
31 Aug 15 UTC
Back To School Game
Well mates, I've finished two long weeks of RA training, and classes start tomorrow. In honor of my sophomore I'd like to put together a back to school game. Classic, 24-48 hour phase, WTA. Bet size and anon I'm willing to discuss. SO anyone looking for a game?
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kasimax (243 D)
25 Feb 15 UTC
modern gunboat tournament
i'm planning on starting a modern gunboat tournament with each participant playing every country exactly once. wta, 11-point buy-in (so you'll need 110 to participate), 36-hour phases, staggered start (i was thinking about five games at the beginning at the next five after 4-5 years).

who's in?
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Dharmaton (2398 D)
30 Aug 15 UTC
I'm tired
On a lising streak... was hoping to win just one so as to leave with a better pointage to stay on the top 100 for a while, f' it. NMRing last games and saying thx so long for all the stinky fish. bye!!! :)
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seth24c (5659 D)
01 Sep 15 UTC
Spartan races.
See below!
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ssorenn (0 DX)
01 Sep 15 UTC
need an Italy
only the brave mat apply

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=165756
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rmf (100 D)
28 Aug 15 UTC
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F2F Berlin
I stopped playing games here in webdip a few months ago, but I still got the Diplomacy bug, and I see F2Fs are growing in popularity here in the forum. So... Anyone in the neighbourhood of Berlin willing to join for an F2F in the German capital?
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backscratcher (459 D)
30 Aug 15 UTC
What is this Mafia?
What is this Mafia?
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basvanopheusden (2176 D)
29 Aug 15 UTC
Objective diplomacy
A game where you can win by getting 18 centers, or achieving your "secret objective", determined before the start of the game.
34 replies
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