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Private Grass Grows At Last Above All Graves
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Pot: 110 D - Autumn, 2009, Finished
Fall of the American Empire IV, Anonymous players, Draw-Size Scoring
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09 Jul 20 UTC Spring, 1999: Greetings everyone, best of luck!
09 Jul 20 UTC Spring, 1999: Greetings as well. Best of luck to everyone as well.
09 Jul 20 UTC Spring, 1999: Hi all, and good luck.
09 Jul 20 UTC Spring, 1999: Enjoy :-)
10 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1999: Given the global danger posed by Ohio as demonstrated by this handy infographic https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/733/192/ba5.jpg I'll make sure this troublesome region is pacified and put under control swiftly and with respect of our civilized values.
10 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1999: I knew there was a reason I never liked Ohio. Thank you for keeping us all safe.
10 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1999: Yes, Ontario is currently in a similar situation... I'm helping as well... (ignore the obvious propaganda as clearly I am charitable and generous, not solely interested in the SC)

Nice to have like mined leaders who are also charitable and generous.
11 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1999: GameMaster: Game was extended due to at least 1 member failing to enter orders and having an excused missed turn available. This has un-readied all orders.
11 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1999: folks, it's fine to have busy schedules, if you need some extra time just communicate with the rest of the board rather than silently skipping turns, please :) I'd rather pause than lose players.
11 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1999: Here Here
11 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1999: I agree. I'll wait over having someone in civil disorder.
11 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1999: Agreed too, and I'm always happy to agree a pause when needed.

Slight drawback to that is it can take a long time for ten players to all hit the pause button, and even longer for them to unpause!
12 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1999: My pause is in - that's my vote!
12 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 1999: Voted as well in case someone can't make their turns.
21 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 2001: Despite the advertisement for a game with communicative players, I had the bad luck to be neighbor with one silent guy, one that stabbed me turn one, and a third that beyond agreeing for neutrality, wasn't able to actively collaborate with me. Then, one relatively cordial neighbor of neighbor, and the rest could have basically be on another game altogether.

As it stands, I don't have any fun playing this game so I'll just ready-support-hold my armies, as "no game > bad game".

Enjoy!
21 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 2001: Please don't - it would be much better for the rest of us if you simply stop entering orders so that we can get a player who wants to play. Please don't ruin the game for the rest of us simply because you aren't enjoying yourself.
21 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 2001: Agreed - please find someone to account sit and take over from you if you can.

Or if not, can a player be replaced by an admin? Worth asking? Or put into civil disorder by an admin, to allow someone else to take over? Might be better than waiting for missed turns and the civil disorder.
21 Jul 20 UTC Autumn, 2001: As one of the neighbors who would benefit from this, please don't. It messes up the balance of the game and ruins it for the rest of the players. If you don't want to play, I'm sure we can pause and find a replacement.

However, as the neighbor who "stabbed" you, I'd like to officially declare that isn't what happened from my point of view. From my understanding, a stab requires trust between players. It was turn 1, there was no trust between us. So any communications at that point where trust-less until actions backed up our words. Thus, it wasn't a stab, just baseless turn 1 communications.
21 Jul 20 UTC Spring, 2002: Fair enough, stab is probably the wrong word, although you agreed on a dmz and then proceeded to violate your own word.

I assure you that my defence will make sure you will benefit as little as possible, to the point of giving everything to heartland and Florida.
21 Jul 20 UTC Spring, 2002: Lack of communication is one thing, and I agree that is frustrating, but I can't really see why can complain about other players' tactics?

As some of us have said above, we'd really rather you didn't just hold your units and stop participating in the game. It ruins the game for the nine other players.

If you must, let yourself go into civil disorder so someone who wants to play can take over.

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