MINI MAFIA I - GAME THREAD

[thamrick]

I still don't think Ezio makes a lot of sense as scum. PE would have been hardcore bussing if that was the case.

I think bussing yesterday would have been a dumb move for scum. If they got a mislynch yesterday, they only needed 1 more to win and were in a powerful position. Getting your teammate lynched yesterday wouldn't give you that much towncred and made you survive 2 more lynches.

[rdrivera2005]

I have done some re-reading on PE too. Some things that striked me:

- D1 he voted only for town (BB, me and Durga).

- He pushed hard Durga lynch at EOD knowing she will flip scum (look this message)

These wagons are ok as long as Durga gets a decisive 4th vote somewhere. Durga delenda est
I won’t be mad if bozo goes but Durga is the one I got a concrete scum read on so let’s do that one please.
ghug is the worst wagon of the 3. Can someone on that please go to Durga thx

I think he was defending either Ghug or Bozo, otherwise why scum PE would push so hard to get a town Durga lynched.
Another quote:

+ If all of the leading wagons near EOD are town, then "static voters" (players whose votes didn't change near EOD) are more likely to be mafia.

I don´t know what to get from his D2, where he voted Ezio, Bozo, Brain and then strongly pushed Ezio. I still think it´s not likely he would have bussed Ezio that way. So, I think scum is between Ghug and Bozo. If it´s Tham, then we are screwed as I don´t see him lynched.

[rdrivera2005]

Wow, people are really engaged on this game.

[bozotheclown]

@rdrivera: If you are right, then it is ghug, because it isn't me. Do you think PE and ghug would decide to claim the RB?

[thamrick]

@rdrivera - what do you make of xorxes being NK'd? What do you think that says about you?

What do you make of ghug's vote for my, ghug's, and your votes for PE all in quick succession?

Analyze PE's EoD2 for me. We know xorxes was town, we know PE was scum, you were on Ezio with PE until the last minute. Here are the vote counts 25 and 8 minutes out.

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Vote Count 2.8
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Xorxes (2) - Bozotheclown, Ghug
President Eden (2) - Xorxes, Ezio(END)
Ezio (1) - Rdrivera
Rdrivera (1) - Thamrick

Unvoted: President Eden

Currently, NOBODY is set to be lynched.

President Eden must cast a vote before the phase ends.

You have 25 minutes remaining in Day 2.

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Vote Count 2.9
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Xorxes (2) - Bozotheclown, Ghug
President Eden (2) - Xorxes, Ezio(END)
Ezio (2) - Rdrivera, President Eden
Rdrivera (1) - Thamrick

Currently, NOBODY is set to be lynched.

You have EIGHT MINUTES remaining in Day 2.

[bozotheclown]

When brainbomb was leading 4-1-1 over Ezio and ghug, PE joined rdrivera on Ezio. That does not look like a good move if Ezio or rdrivera is scum. I could see him not wanting to end on another town wagon with ghug. Also, I do not see why the mafia would decide to RB ghug and NK Pouncy.

##VOTE ghug

[rdrivera2005]

@rdrivera - what do you make of xorxes being NK'd? What do you think that says about you?

What do you make of ghug's vote for my, ghug's, and your votes for PE all in quick succession?

Analyze PE's EoD2 for me. We know xorxes was town, we know PE was scum, you were on Ezio with PE until the last minute. Here are the vote counts 25 and 8 minutes out.

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Vote Count 2.8
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Xorxes (2) - Bozotheclown, Ghug
President Eden (2) - Xorxes, Ezio(END)
Ezio (1) - Rdrivera
Rdrivera (1) - Thamrick

Unvoted: President Eden

Currently, NOBODY is set to be lynched.

President Eden must cast a vote before the phase ends.

You have 25 minutes remaining in Day 2.

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Vote Count 2.9
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Xorxes (2) - Bozotheclown, Ghug
President Eden (2) - Xorxes, Ezio(END)
Ezio (2) - Rdrivera, President Eden
Rdrivera (1) - Thamrick

Currently, NOBODY is set to be lynched.

You have EIGHT MINUTES remaining in Day 2.

I think Xorxes was fear killed. He caught PE yesterday and at least to me was the most clear town (as was Brain).

About the voting it fits my theory that Ghug or Bozo were the last scum. PE choose to join me on a Ezio wagon instead of joining Ghug and Bozo on a Xorxes wagon that it's a lot easier to work (I was sitting on Ezio the whole day an no one joined). Do you think PE will vote together with his scummate instead of joining to townies to lynch another townie? I think he didn't vote Xorxes because there is already one scum there and they have already been together in the D1 lynch. But of course I could be fitting the facts in my theory. But they fit perfectly well I think.

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 3.1

Rdrivera (2) - Thamrick, Ezio
Ezio (1) - Ghug
Ghug (1) - Bozotheclown

Currently RDRIVERA is set to be lynched.

You have 21 hours left in Day 3.

[ghug]

I am the least likely to kill xorx here. He townread me, but not enough to be noticed. I had him and rd lined up as lynches. The xorxes kill wanted to shake things up or was terrified. That's rd (obvious lynch) or Ezio (literally changed his vote cause xorx townread me. dude is whipped.).

[Ezio]

You're damn well right I'm whipped. And it worked yesterday pretty damn well so I'm not gonna argue with the results.
As for this lynch, Xorxes's top scumread is aligned with my top scumread which locks it in stone. I'm not gonna move unless something truly crazy happens from here.

[rdrivera2005]

I have done a re-read on Bozo and Ghug. I think it's more likely Ghug. He voted PE in his first vote (joke), several times cast shadows at him but never really pushed his lynch, until the last minute vote when it was clear he will hang (same reasoning is valid to me and a bit to Bozo to be honest).
But what strike me as odd is he missing then whole D1 and the things I pointed in his PE analisys, I think Ghug is better then this.
##vote Ghug

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 3.2

Rdrivera (2) - Thamrick, Ezio
Ghug (2) - Bozotheclown, Rdrivera
Ezio (1) - Ghug

Currently NOBODY is set to be lynched.

You have 10 hours and 10 minutes left in Day 3.

[ghug]

Well, I'm gonna be out all day. ##VOTE rd I guess

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 3.3

Rdrivera (3) - Thamrick, Ezio, Ghug
Ghug (2) - Bozotheclown, Rdrivera

Currently RDRIVERA is set to be lynched.

You have seven and a half hours left in Day 3.

[rdrivera2005]

It's really annoying to be lynched this way, with this low level of engagement. We deserve to lose.

[thamrick]

Is that an admittance?

[bozotheclown]

PE and rdrivera were both on the Durga wagon D1. I doubt PE would go out of his way to vote with rdrivera on D2 if rdrivera was scum. It is more likely he was trying to avoid ending D2 on the same town wagon as ghug as he did on D1.

[rdrivera2005]

Is that an admittance?

Thamrick - The really low level of effort your are putting on this game is weird, you were a lot better on the last one. And no, I am town, a vanilla town, so you can be sure I am not even claiming. Like I said before, lynching me is not a bid deal as I am an easy myslinch at Lylo, but lynching me this way, with zero effort is a waste.

[thamrick]

Then convince me otherwise. Your arguments about ghug have been halfhearted.

-Why was brain/xorxes the most townclear slot yesterday in your opinion?

-I don't follow your argument that PE joined you on Ezio to tie the vote 3-ways just to avoid being on the same wagon as his teammate. Survival was far more important at that moment than avoiding links to your teammate. If PE had survived yesterday, we would be at lylo today. I don't see a strong enough link to bozo/ghug with PE that would be damning for any of the 3 of them, especially if we had 0 info about scum.

-I don't guarantee PE voted with his scummate, but I don't think it was a necessary avoidance like you're claiming.

-Bozo's argument about PE voting Ezio when BB was leading wagon at 4 (BB) - 1 (Ezio) - 1 (ghug) is somewhat convincing. I don't particularly like either of ghug or Ezio's recent messages (ghug explaining why he wouldn't kill xorxes and Ezio saying he's whipped and not moving his vote). Bozo is probably my top townread right now

-Your recent case on ghug is garbage, no offense. It relies on a joke vote, an incorrect statement (you mention Bozo's last minute vote, but bozo didn't vote last minute... ??), and ghug being absent D1 when he had a reason validated by Durga (he was skiing).

[thamrick]

@Ezio - why are you so set on rdrivera? If he turns out to not be scum, who would your second choice be? If it's ghug, can you back it up with something other than the RB case?