MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD

[Jamiet99uk]

Depth charging my thunder Vecna when I'm trying to build suspense. Tsk.

[Nephthys]

Depth charging my thunder Vecna when I'm trying to build suspense. Tsk.

you gonna actually post or just be annoying?

[Vecna]

Jamiet, what do you think of Ezio's appeal?

[Vecna]

Why did you claim that you used that item Neph? It really felt like you were just trying to use your item for towncred.

[Vecna]

Like, I see both of you online, and a shitton of important shit is been put up for discussion.

And youre both just lingering.

[Jamiet99uk]

Jamiet, what do you think of Ezio's appeal?

Ok let's discuss this first and then I'll reveal.

I have to hand it to Ezio for contining to try. But ultimately, I cannot see how it's plausible for the Alien to be anyone but him, or EMC. I also find it hard to believe that the Assassin could still be alive, having held their shot for all this time. If they were alive they'd surely have shot the Medicine Man as soon as today began, in order to prevent a resurrection.

[Vecna]

Thank you doctor obvious, the entire point is whether you believe it is possible that EMC has been faking this shit all along. Whether thats plausible enough to go along with this stuff.

[Jamiet99uk]

Thank you doctor obvious, the entire point is whether you believe it is possible that EMC has been faking this shit all along. Whether thats plausible enough to go along with this stuff.

It's very much less plausible than Ezio being the Alien.

[Vaporwave]

Reveal it!

Also waiting for emc to give us his night result

So far we have

N1 Neph - non-alien
N2 Ike - infected
N3 Moscow - bus driven but doesn't matter, not alive

N4 -

[dargorygel]

##GM NOTE (and answer about resurrection)
If the Medicine Man sings his song, the resurrection will happen, regardless of the state of the Medicine Man AFTER he sings.

"Song of Restoration (1x): When a body dies (with the exception of disintegration) the spirit goes into limbo for 24 hours (not the god qt). The Medicine Man can act during the day or night phase to sing a song of restoration which will return the spirit to the body at the end of the subsequent phase. "

[bozotheclown]

Unfortunately I wasted another cop scan N3 by scanning Ezio. At the time I suspected he was scum instead of the alien, and I thought that if he was cleared of being the alien he would be able to avoid the lynch for a while. Ezio is confirmed as not scum.

You didn't waste this scan. You only wasted the scan if town makes a mistake and lynches me.

There is even more incentive to wait here. There is now a HUGE cost if I'm not the alien as we will be throwing away a townclear. For what?


What does town gain from lynching me today instead of tomorrow?

False logic, because we loose a townclear regardless. Either you or EMC. There is no way around this.

If we lynch Ezio today and he somehow turns out to be town, we loose 2 town clears, Ezio and emc.

[bozotheclown]

##CALL GM: If the Alien Cop or Lazy Cop target is driven, will the resulting report say who was actually scanned?

[Jamiet99uk]

You didn't waste this scan. You only wasted the scan if town makes a mistake and lynches me.

There is even more incentive to wait here. There is now a HUGE cost if I'm not the alien as we will be throwing away a townclear. For what?


What does town gain from lynching me today instead of tomorrow?

False logic, because we loose a townclear regardless. Either you or EMC. There is no way around this.

If we lynch Ezio today and he somehow turns out to be town, we loose 2 town clears, Ezio and emc.

They were never townclears in the first place, if that happens.

[bozotheclown]

False logic, because we loose a townclear regardless. Either you or EMC. There is no way around this.

If we lynch Ezio today and he somehow turns out to be town, we loose 2 town clears, Ezio and emc.

They were never townclears in the first place, if that happens.

If Ezio is not the alien he is a town clear because I scanned him N3 and he is confirmed as not mafia. If we go with Ezio's plan to confirm the alien, the one that is not the alien will be town clear.

[bozotheclown]

I think there is enough doubt in emc's claims that it is worth verifying the alien today by having Ezio and emc self vote while we lynch a scum suspect. However, I think the lynch should be RagingIke so that we make sure the alien does not control 4 votes on D6. I think RagingIke is a reasonable scum suspect, and the worst case is we eliminate a non-cleared town in the scum suspect pool.

##VOTE RagingIke297

[bozotheclown]

Reasons why I am not certain emc is the Alien Cop:

1. His failure to explain how he was saved N2 or why he would fake claim being saved.

2. His initial positive scan report on RagingIke without claiming Alien Cop.

3. Not reporting a N1 scan result until asked.

4. Claiming a N3 scan result on MoscowFleet, who was driven.

5. emc voted for me after Ezio did on D4.

[Vaporwave]

If we lynch Ezio today and he somehow turns out to be town, we loose 2 town clears, Ezio and emc.

They were never townclears in the first place, if that happens.

If Ezio is not the alien he is a town clear because I scanned him N3 and he is confirmed as not mafia. If we go with Ezio's plan to confirm the alien, the one that is not the alien will be town clear.

good enough for me to

##UNVOTE

hoping emc scan him for alien DNA so that we won't have to lynch him,

#team Ezio, let's keep him alive

[Vecna]

Hmm I just thought of something rather important.

##Call GM

Could the mafia secretary power or the Intelligence box item have been used on Dargorygel to learn what action he took?

[Vecna]

Since there never was an infection N1, the alien couldve learned what role Dargo was if he started with the intelligence box.

Very tinfoil-hat type of stuff to have that many coincidences, but its possible.

If only MF wouldve shared with us who he had given the vest to. Which sort of makes me feel like he actually would have if it was given to EMC to save him. Since it would mean he wouldve known that EMC was indeed protected by that item, which wouldve been quite the important detail to confirm.

[bozotheclown]

They were never townclears in the first place, if that happens.

If Ezio is not the alien he is a town clear because I scanned him N3 and he is confirmed as not mafia. If we go with Ezio's plan to confirm the alien, the one that is not the alien will be town clear.

good enough for me to

##UNVOTE

hoping emc scan him for alien DNA so that we won't have to lynch him,

#team Ezio, let's keep him alive

Are you OK with a RagingIke lynch?