MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD

[yavuzovic]

If Ezio didn't show and vote I expect him to be modkilled, but if not he is the lynch tomorrow, no questions asked...

Unless we identify the alien.

Also

Vecna, people don't mention you because the majority hardcore townreads you you're as good as confirmed

I personally townread him but without an evidence so just slight townread. Not hardcore townread.

[Jamiet99uk]

I approve of the choice of me. I am a safe pair of thumbs and no mistake.

##VOTE WORCEJ

Victory awaits.

[yavuzovic]

I'm happy I wasn't chosen because you all know I'd be too suspect and lynched if alien was one of us. You'll see I'm a safe port

[Jamiet99uk]

No offence Yavuzovic, but he wouldn't have chosen you even if there were only three players left.

[Percy Williams]

Ok, I will kindly ask Jamiet and Thamrick to vote Worcej with me.

I will also ask Ike to be aware at EOD to also vote Worcej if someone try something close to EOD, like Ezio. If Ezio didn't show and vote I expect him to be modkilled, but if not he is the lynch tomorrow, no questions asked...

@Ike - If you won't be online close to EOD please inform so we can choose another one.

##vote Worcej

I approve of those people, but if the vote comes up Worcej regardless, how do we find the alien. I know Worcej is Mafia and we should lynch him, but I don't want to waste having gotten everyone to self vote. My previous post has my analysis of how this plan works, and what is integral to the plan.

I see. You're not understanding the mechanics of it. Here's a simplified case:

As an example, I'm assuming you (Percy) were infected N1. Doesn't really matter in this instance, but we can say bozo was infected N2 just to further the point. Assume that emc is the alien.

rdr votes worcej
Jamie votes worcej
tham votes worcej

Percy votes Percy
bozo votes bozo
emc votes emc
.... everyone else votes for themselves

Pre-altered vote count as seen in thread:
worcej (3): rdr, Jamie, tham
Percy (1)
bozo (1)
emc(1)
....

What will be posted by GM's in the final vote count:
worcej (3): rdr, Jamie, tham
emc (2): emc, Percy
bozo (1): bozo
.... everyone else with (1)
Percy(0)

GM's will post that worcej was lynched and that he was a dirty, dirty boy

Then we'll see that your (Percy) vote was moved onto emc. The only way that is true is if emc is the alien and he infected you N1. So we will know that emc is alien.

Make sense?

As long as we get to see that bolded vote count, and not just the pre altered vote count and that Worcej is now a dead rat, then everything is fine. I just wanted to make sure the alien would still show up if we lynched Worcej successfully.

[dargorygel]

Most Official GM Vote Count
Vote Count 3.5

Worcej (4) worcej, rdrivera, thamrick, Jamiet
RagingIke297 (1) RagingIke
Nephthys (1) Nephthys
e.m.c.^42 (1) emc
LordQuas (1) LQ
Vecna (1) Vecna
Percy Williams (1) Percy Williams
Bozotheclown (1) bozo
Vaprwave (1) Vapor
Worcej (1) worcej
Yavuzovic (1) yavu
MoscowFleet (1) MoscowFleet


Endvotes: 1/8 Jamiet99uk

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At this moment (with 7 and three quarters hours left in the day) worcej is set to be spaced
Non voters: ezio
Non posters: Ezio

[thamrick]

I approve of those people, but if the vote comes up Worcej regardless, how do we find the alien. I know Worcej is Mafia and we should lynch him, but I don't want to waste having gotten everyone to self vote. My previous post has my analysis of how this plan works, and what is integral to the plan.

I see. You're not understanding the mechanics of it. Here's a simplified case:

As an example, I'm assuming you (Percy) were infected N1. Doesn't really matter in this instance, but we can say bozo was infected N2 just to further the point. Assume that emc is the alien.

rdr votes worcej
Jamie votes worcej
tham votes worcej

Percy votes Percy
bozo votes bozo
emc votes emc
.... everyone else votes for themselves

Pre-altered vote count as seen in thread:
worcej (3): rdr, Jamie, tham
Percy (1)
bozo (1)
emc(1)
....

What will be posted by GM's in the final vote count:
worcej (3): rdr, Jamie, tham
emc (2): emc, Percy
bozo (1): bozo
.... everyone else with (1)
Percy(0)

GM's will post that worcej was lynched and that he was a dirty, dirty boy

Then we'll see that your (Percy) vote was moved onto emc. The only way that is true is if emc is the alien and he infected you N1. So we will know that emc is alien.

Make sense?

As long as we get to see that bolded vote count, and not just the pre altered vote count and that Worcej is now a dead rat, then everything is fine. I just wanted to make sure the alien would still show up if we lynched Worcej successfully.

Yeah. I could tell that's what you weren't understanding. It's what the whole plan hinges on.

If you go back to D1, you'll see that when Vapor used his vote manipulation item, the final posted vote count was different than the one that everyone's votes added up to (the pre-altered count).

[thamrick]

No offence Yavuzovic, but he wouldn't have chosen you even if there were only three players left.

I lol'ed

[thamrick]

Vecna, people don't mention you because the majority hardcore townreads you you're as good as confirmed

except for Neph, we all cherish and worship you :insertbowingemote:

You are almost clear.
The only way you could be scum is Ike lying about the RB, which will be really unlikely, because he don't know who he was switched as far as I know. But you can still be Alien....
I didn't choose you to vote because you told you will be offline EOD and also because a higher chance to be infected.

Was this directed at Vecna? Or Vapor?

[Vaporwave]

I'm useless with mechanics and need to be spoon-fed. I think we can make this happen as long as we have 4-5 people that understand every aspect and can coordinate tasks

[Vecna]

Vecna, people don't mention you because the majority hardcore townreads you you're as good as confirmed

except for Neph, we all cherish and worship you :insertbowingemote:

You are almost clear.
The only way you could be scum is Ike lying about the RB, which will be really unlikely, because he don't know who he was switched as far as I know. But you can still be Alien....
I didn't choose you to vote because you told you will be offline EOD and also because a higher chance to be infected.

All good. For some reason I thought the EoD was a day earlier when I said that, but even for tonight im not sure ill be around.

11 pm EoD time ftl

[Vecna]

I'm useless with mechanics and need to be spoon-fed. I think we can make this happen as long as we have 4-5 people that understand every aspect and can coordinate tasks

No need to understand anything really.

Its just "nobody move".

All seems fine atm, besides Ezio

[e.m.c^42]

You should keep in mind that it's entirely possible that I wasn't the one that personally scanned you.

but as of N2 you showed positive, yes.

I want to know whether youre hardclaiming this or not. Please stop with trying to sow confusion

Vecna, it's pretty obvious what he's doing. He's soft claiming that he has a cellphone, and that he's in conversation with the person who actually has a scan.

oh no, I also softclaimed that I am alien who's telling everyone his infectees, that I'm scum who tried to nk alien and claimed the nk instead (hint hint assassin, there is someone you should not shoot), as well as being alien cop who's trying to not look like the alien cop

not to mention I also implied rather heavily that I'm VT who's a bit high :D

[yavuzovic]

Even if I'm not the Alien, I have a strong urge to move my vote.

[e.m.c^42]

I'm hardclaiming nothing except for that I believe the information regarding alien dna given here is absolutely true :)

[thamrick]

Even if I'm not the Alien, I have a strong urge to move my vote.

Well... don't

[thamrick]

I don't really understand what you're doing right now emc, but I'm just gonna let you keep on keeping on

[e.m.c^42]

Even if I'm not the Alien, I have a strong urge to move my vote.

Haha, why

this vote count looks glorious, and it's unlikely for it to happen again unless we have another game with similar mechs that can be used this way, so seems better to enjoy it while we can.

[Ezio]

Jesus what a boring day.

[Ezio]

I get the impression y'all don't want me to do anything fun.

##vote Ezio