MAFIA 43 - GAME THREAD

[Durga]

bb's flip tells us nothing about rivera's alignment. Scum rivera busses his teammates without any second thoughts, and bussing bb is something most of his teammates were probably happy to do.

agreed, bussing is what rdr does. however, it did feel like there was movement to save bb

Gun to your head, who was saving him?

I don't know?

[flash2015]

Moscow slot is probably scum

Why so?

The assumption is that he opted out because it is very hard to play scum multiple times in a row.

[worcej]

Back and now I have ~50 pages to read to understand how BB was caught so early and why rdr was a wagon...

This will be a fun task lol...

[damo666]

Moscow slot is probably scum

Why so?

The assumption is that he opted out because it is very hard to play scum multiple times in a row.

Bit of a give away for your sub to take on. I give Moscow more credit than that. (Doesn't stop the possibility of the slot being scum though, obviously, just not for that reason).

[worcej]

Okay, so Brain was mod-killed. BB trolling on a new level with that one lol...

[damo666]

Back and now I have ~50 pages to read to understand how BB was caught so early and why rdr was a wagon...

This will be a fun task lol...

good luck, bit of a roller coaster!

[Nephthys]

Attorney, - still not giving me good vibes don't like how he never really presents reasoning with his statements. D1 still sits badly. Probably scum

bozotheclown, voted to save rd right at the end, a bold move that I currently think may be too daring as scum - townlean

brainbomb - Dead scum

damo666, Not too much content, A lot of clarifying and mechanics weak scumlean

Durga, I dont really know what to think here, I need the time to properly read up on her. Null for now

e.m.c^42,Very different playstyle to last game, a lot more confident which I like, although I'm wondering it comes from being scum and having more information to start with. Depsite that, I've liked the analysis he's put in so far. The one thing that does get me is he said he doesn't really want to jump on the Rd wagon then rides it to the end. I find that a little concerning considering how close Rd got to being lynched. I suppose weak town though.

Ezio, Puts some defense on brain with an hour to go wanting to lynch a guy "that asked for low posters to come online". Scum

Flash2015, not really getting anything from him... Null

Foxcastle, Defended brain, didn't even really consider him as a possible scum. One post really got me where he said his lynch pref (A > Rd > Ez) despite never mentioning Ezio before that. Scum

MoscowFleet/Tom,- Not enough to go on

ND, All his posts were mechanics until his vote. Scumlean

Percy Williams, has he actually provided any content yet? From memory he's town read flash and thinks vapor isnt being defensive. I really wanna see some reads but until I do he's in my top scum pile.

RagingIke, Votes Vapor in an attempt to get him to use his votes better then just disappears for 15hrs. Seemed to rise a little to the B/D thing. Weak scumlean

rdrivera, There was too much movement EOD esp with brain's dying vote that I just don't see how he can be scum. Hope to see more engagement when RL clears up.

Squigs44, as much as I love this guy his scum game is kinda average. Here he seems more driven and engaged. I like it. Town

thamrick, Also not much to go on but after looking into his first post there was all sorts of bad. Scum

Vaporwave, Getting better, starting to make some good contributions. I'm backing w/t with Attorney, townish esp with claim

Vecna, Good analysis and poking, town

worcej, Claims waay too early in a way that makes me think town. HIs vote on Durga gives me pause though as it seemed really hedgy. Null

xorxes. Townleader, I'm not prepared to consider he's pulling some ridiculous play yet.

Scum - Tham, Fox, Ezio, Attorney
Weak Scum - Ike, ND, Damo
Null - Tom, Durga, flash, worcej
Town - Xorx, Vecna, Vapor, Squigs, Rd, EMC, bozo

[Nephthys]

What question?

Who was saving brain, if you had to make a call

[xorxes]

I mean Im claiming scum. I dunno what more youre asking for lol. my team decided en masse to just slaughter me day 1

Believeable. I would not be surprised if most/all of his teammates were voting for him.

brainbomb (8) Durga Squigs44 Attorney rdrivera2005 thamrick ND Percy Williams bozotheclown
rdrivera2005 (8) xorxes Vecna e.m.c^42 Foxcastle Ezio flash2015 Vaporwave brainbomb
Durga (1) worcej
Vaporwave (1) RagingIke297
Attorney (1) Nephthys
Ezio (1) damo666

Tom Bombadil


Most likely the four remaining scum are blue
Less likely three blue, one red
Even less likely two blue, two red

Durga, Attorney, and rdrivera are the only ones in both categories, although you and damo voted for brainbomb at some point during day 1. Are Durga, Attorney, rdrivera, and damo your lynch pool?

All conservatives (except myself) are in my lynchpool, but of those four Attorney is the towniest so far.

I don't really think all scum were voting for brainbomb, I made that comment based on what brainbomb said, I had not examined in detail who had voted for him yet. It would be very surprising if none of his teammates bussed him though.

[worcej]

I don't really think all scum were voting for brainbomb, I made that comment based on what brainbomb said, I had not examined in detail who had voted for him yet. It would be very surprising if none of his teammates bussed him though.

Maybe this will help or not, based on the last game (BB was scum) and observing how he played scum, but he had a tendency to mixed a lot of truth in his lies. I would not be shocked in the slightest if the 3/1 and 2/2 option are the reality.

Even with a mod-kill, which I am guessing he tried to force Jaime to do based on a very very quick scan, I imagine he still wins if scum pull this out.

TL;DR - I think hyper focusing on the blues is what we should avoid doing. There is almost certainly a scum in the reds as well.

[flash2015]

I don't really think all scum were voting for brainbomb, I made that comment based on what brainbomb said, I had not examined in detail who had voted for him yet. It would be very surprising if none of his teammates bussed him though.

Maybe this will help or not, based on the last game (BB was scum) and observing how he played scum, but he had a tendency to mixed a lot of truth in his lies. I would not be shocked in the slightest if the 3/1 and 2/2 option are the reality.

Even with a mod-kill, which I am guessing he tried to force Jaime to do based on a very very quick scan, I imagine he still wins if scum pull this out.

TL;DR - I think hyper focusing on the blues is what we should avoid doing. There is almost certainly a scum in the reds as well.

There are likely more scum in the blues though. For now the role of the party cop is to find the scum in the reds.

[xorxes]

Scum - Tham, Fox, Ezio, Attorney
Weak Scum - Ike, ND, Damo
Null - Tom, Durga, flash, worcej
Town - Xorx, Vecna, Vapor, Squigs, Rd, EMC, bozo

Lots of non-con claims in your scum pile. Have you taken that into account at all?

[xorxes]

TL;DR - I think hyper focusing on the blues is what we should avoid doing. There is almost certainly a scum in the reds as well.

That will become clear soonish. For the time being, the simplest hypothesis is that town is telling the truth.

[worcej]

TL;DR - I think hyper focusing on the blues is what we should avoid doing. There is almost certainly a scum in the reds as well.

That will become clear soonish. For the time being, the simplest hypothesis is that town is telling the truth.

Agreed from a PR usage perspective, but not from a personal investigative standpoint.

That being said, I am trying to work out why rdr was the other wagon. What made anyone go vote for him in any way based off 5 posts?

[xorxes]

There are likely more scum in the blues though. For now the role of the party cop is to find the scum in the reds.

The Party Cop has more info than most other town as to the likelyhood of where the scum are, so it's up to them whether to fish for scum in the reds or in the blues (where DUP is most likely hiding).

[xorxes]

TL;DR - I think hyper focusing on the blues is what we should avoid doing. There is almost certainly a scum in the reds as well.

That will become clear soonish. For the time being, the simplest hypothesis is that town is telling the truth.

Agreed from a PR usage perspective, but not from a personal investigative standpoint.

That being said, I am trying to work out why rdr was the other wagon. What made anyone go vote for him in any way based off 5 posts?

I started the wagon because his reason for voting for brainbomb sounded fishy to me.

[e.m.c^42]

TL;DR - I think hyper focusing on the blues is what we should avoid doing. There is almost certainly a scum in the reds as well.

That will become clear soonish. For the time being, the simplest hypothesis is that town is telling the truth.

Agreed from a PR usage perspective, but not from a personal investigative standpoint.

That being said, I am trying to work out why rdr was the other wagon. What made anyone go vote for him in any way based off 5 posts?

that it became viable at all + some didn't want to vote for brain yet + they didn't want to end on a dead wagon, from what I can remember

don't remember xorxes or vecna's reasoning atm

[xorxes]

Moscow slot is probably scum

Is it because Tom was so quick to give you town points for something that was hardly worth anything (asking him to reveal his party before telling him who else had revealed)?

But if that was the case, you would have said Tom, not "Moscow slot". So it must be something about Moscow. What makes you think that slot is scum? Don't keep us guessing.

[e.m.c^42]

has rdr even been online yet? can't remember seeing his icon or posts, nor an extra guest lurker from a bit before EOD to now (since they can be reasonably inferred from who's actively posting and not showing lol)

[Durga]

Moscow slot is probably scum

Is it because Tom was so quick to give you town points for something that was hardly worth anything (asking him to reveal his party before telling him who else had revealed)?

But if that was the case, you would have said Tom, not "Moscow slot". So it must be something about Moscow. What makes you think that slot is scum? Don't keep us guessing.

i'm going off of moscow's first and only post. it's a weird post. i wasn't even in the last game