Mafia 41 - Sid Meiers Civilizaton Mafia - Official Game Thread

[Nephthys]

@bozo, have you EVER played a role madness game before?

I do not believe so, what exactly is the definition of "role madness"? I played a game where everyone started with an item, which was similar since most of the items were NAI.

I nearly clear bozo for this, he had the chance (if he was scum) to indicate he knew about the fake roles. While there may have been coaching it gives me some sort of indication that he is likely town

[CrimsonFox]

who is durga

[damo666]

Have to do a long catch up read.

[Jamiet99uk]

##CALL GM

The last two vote counts are wrong.
My vote is on Bozotheclown.
Dargorygel has therefore been the lead wagon for quite a while.

@LordQuas: Betting and making wagers is not allowed here.

@CrimsonFox: Thank you for answering me regarding your chats with uncle Ghug. I believe your Mason claim. Damo666 is the Serial Killer btw.

@Durga: Welcome. Please share your thoughts with us.

[flash2015]

.. looking at bozo's iso he's straight up lynching foxc because of the possibility that he's a wolf who chose a fake claim

That is not the only reason I suspect Foxcastle, and I did not even consider the possibility he was fake claiming until we found out that the scum have a list of inactive roles to fake claim. I found it suspicious that Foxcastle presented his claim the way he did, as if he was resigned to getting lynched and telling us his role for future reference. If he was town trying to save himself, I would expect him to say he was the town doctor and we should not lynch him because we would be killing our doctor. Also, as has been pointed out, if he was lynched, we would find out his role, so there was no reason to tell us for future reference. I also found it suspicious that Squigs switched his vote from Foxcastle to ghug at the last minute, because it unnecessarily put Squigs on a wagon that was about to flip town. I also did not like Foxcastle's argument why DemonRHK should not have challenged Squigs and let Squigs survive another day. Foxcastle even said DemonRHK would have been better off challenging him since DemonRHK would have likely won the challenge against him. If Foxcastle is town, that means he would be saying it would be better to have a town killed D2 over Squigs.

Pretty much sums up why I am currently voting for Foxcastle currently too, but I am to lazy to write it out.

[flash2015]

I am going to wait to see what darg has to say.

[damo666]

OK this is where I'm at.

Bozo - getting townier ##unvote

CrimsonFox - assume Mason in absence of cc

damo666 - town

darg - null

demonRHk - immune today but a bit suss. Was fight with LQ engineered.

FoxC - highly suspicious but just might be town doc

Jamiet - I no longer suspect him as SK. Probtown

LordQuas - I don't like the tone of his posts. Scum or SK?

Flash - null

Neph - strongly townlean

Durga - null

Worcej - null (quieter than usual - poss SK?)

Assuming 2 of FoxC, demonmRHK, LordQ are scum/SK then 3 out of my 4 nulls must be scum/SK

##vote LordQuas

If this wagon does not take off I will switch.

[damo666]

I am going to wait to see what darg has to say.

about what flash?

[Jamiet99uk]

^ Well that's a rather hedgy reads list.

[damo666]

^ Well that's a rather hedgy reads list.

Mine? 4 nulls out of 12 is hedgy?

[Jamiet99uk]

I'm not talking about the nulls.

[Jamiet99uk]

Anyway Damo, what do you think about Nethpyhs's plan to ask the SK to target Foxcastle tonight?

Do you think it is a good idea?

[damo666]

Anyway Damo, what do you think about Nethpyhs's plan to ask the SK to target Foxcastle tonight?

Do you think it is a good idea?

No.

If Fox survives we won't know whether

a) the SK didn't target him
b) he is scum doc
c) he is town doc

If LQ is SK he should target worcej and vive versa

[damo666]

I'm not talking about the nulls.

What then?

[flash2015]

I am going to wait to see what darg has to say.

about what flash?

The argument from worcej that darg is scum is that he appears to be following his "how to be scum" advice. You could argue that that is what you should be doing whether scum or town when faced with a question/accusation. Of course I have never followed it - probably why I have been scumread so often...even though I have never been scum.

[Jamiet99uk]

If LQ is SK he should target worcej and vive versa

Why Worcej?

[damo666]

I am going to wait to see what darg has to say.

about what flash?

The argument from worcej that darg is scum is that he appears to be following his "how to be scum" advice. You could argue that that is what you should be doing whether scum or town when faced with a question/accusation. Of course I have never followed it - probably why I have been scumread so often...even though I have never been scum.

OK thanks. Yes it will be interesting to see darg's reply

[flash2015]

If LQ is SK he should target worcej and vive versa

Why Worcej?

He is suggesting Worcej or LQ is the SK...and the other is potentially scum. He is right...worcej is quieter than usual but so is everyone else.

[damo666]

If LQ is SK he should target worcej and vive versa

Why Worcej?

He can't target himself, demon is immune, Fox presumably can self save and worcej is dodgiest of my nulls but any of the nulls really.

btw why did you conclude I am SK

[damo666]

If LQ is SK he should target worcej and vive versa

Why Worcej?

He is suggesting Worcej or LQ is the SK...and the other is potentially scum. He is right...worcej is quieter than usual but so is everyone else.

Yeah. Why is everyone so quiet? Are we all suffering from new year malaise?