Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

[Kakarroto]

One thing I dont like about frog is how he always asks for approval and validation on scumreads people have, but when he doesnt get an answer, he doesnt follow up and it makes the effort seem fake.

On several occasions frog has asked me questions about peoples meta, or scum history and I didnt even answer; and it never seemed to bother frog.

yeah, I haven't disregarded that frog still has a chance of being the sicko and it could be a great power wolf play, but I think, if not proven otherwise, I can't really see him (or you brain) as mafia this game.

[Kakarroto]

Hello, Town Opponents.

Looks like I'll be the flip tomorrow.

I'm not going to say much unless anyone would like me to make them a picture? I might as well have some fun while I'm still allowed to post. Happy to take requests.

Draw us a picture of your team

Something like this.

Angel Gang.jpg

That's a roboter there! Jamie conformed bozo mafia!

[sweetandcool]

I'm still working on the game, nothing to report.

I'm seeing some weird claims about Mafia right now.

Please remember that Mafia did not have to follow the list and each Mafia player could have targeted anyone.

[Kakarroto]

##Vote Jamie
He should definitely be the D2 kill here
By the way, has anyone seen food lately?

food had too much fun. Probably because of a clown.

[Kakarroto]

Come on scum you're crumbling. Throw in the towel!

I want to but Kak and Frog won't let me.

you have resigned a few games in the past. Let us have our fun now. Too much mechs aren't good, we aren't in a gundam game.

[Kakarroto]

Draw us a picture of your team

Something like this.

Angel Gang.jpg

Is the robot a Bozo hint or a deflection? Hmmm

it's definitely a joke. And so meta that it's both AND neither, hint and deflection

[Kakarroto]

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

"riot." (in a semi-silent voice)
*breaks a toothpick in two*

[Kakarroto]

I thought Bob was sicko?

jamie has a chance of not being the corrupted cop and actually being the sicko. See a previous post. So choose wisely, because I'm not sure who is who.

That said, if you're mafia, town bob should definitely RB you

[brainbomb]

bozo just refuses to engage with anything ive said this game. I looked for a time where he even quoted me or replied to me and there was 2 occasions in total. And yet he never asked me a single question, and keeps placing me in the POE for the game solve.

I would argue this is enough to say bozo is scum but he tends to talk at me when he scumreads me and usually refuses to engage with me when he thinks he is correct about me.

[Jamiet99uk]

Frankly given how mechanically broken this setup is (sorry GMs, but it's true), I think that within a couple of phases my team will look like this:

White Flag.jpg

This is not a commentary on any of your theories tonight because I have not been reading the thread anymore.

This falls somewhat close to the "no public concessions" rule, I would be careful.

It was a prediction of a likely future concession, but you are right to remind us about that rule, thank you, Jackie Chiles.

[Kakarroto]

bozo just refuses to engage with anything ive said this game. I looked for a time where he even quoted me or replied to me and there was 2 occasions in total. And yet he never asked me a single question, and keeps placing me in the POE for the game solve.

I would argue this is enough to say bozo is scum but he tends to talk at me when he scumreads me and usually refuses to engage with me when he thinks he is correct about me.

maybe he is just distancing from you ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Jamiet99uk]

In Damo and Kak we trust

E Pluribus Wiggum

[brainbomb]

bozo just refuses to engage with anything ive said this game. I looked for a time where he even quoted me or replied to me and there was 2 occasions in total. And yet he never asked me a single question, and keeps placing me in the POE for the game solve.

I would argue this is enough to say bozo is scum but he tends to talk at me when he scumreads me and usually refuses to engage with me when he thinks he is correct about me.

maybe he is just distancing from you ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

that would require me to be pretending to be agitated and annoyed

[damo666]

That was a good play by sweetandcool to get foodcoats DKed, but his flip has resolved some things:
1. foodcoats being the ECO confirms Jamie as mafia. Jamie reporting ECO as a result makes it almost certain he is the Police Commissioner and reported a real result.
2. foodcoats being the ECO confirms sweetandcool is mafia from my perspective, probably the Corrupt Cop who initially tried to hide in the delivered/undelivered group then switched to the town/mafia group when he realized foodcoats was the ECO and roleblocked.
3. Jamie being mafia confirms that Diplomacy&Warfare is the Middle Manager, and Diplomacy&Warfare's report confirms Bob targeted foodcoats and roleblocked him, making Bob the Sicko or Curfew Enforcer.
4. foodcoats being the ECO confirms lfischl is the doctor.
5. The vote count being correct confirms BK3K did target Bob and is the Lobbyist.

I know damo is the Paper Delivery Boy, heart is the Internal Affairs, and worcej is town. Kakarroto is the only one who fit as News Host, and Chaqa is now confirmed as the Door-Darter.

The roleblocks indicate that Frogsterking and Bob are the Sicko and Curfew Enforcer in either order.

That leaves brainbomb, Nephthys, worcej, and Hamilton for Mail Man, Ruber Driver, Corrupt Cop, and DaDa Driver, but I know worcej is town, so he must be the Mail Man, making brainbomb the E-Mail Hacker. Nephthys report of a player ID is consistent with Ruber Driver and DaDa Driver, but Hamilton’s claim is not, making Nephthys the Ruber Driver and Hamilton the DaDa Driver with a fake claim report.

So, unless I made a mistake, the only ambiguity left for me is which one of Frogsterking and Bob is the Sicko and which one is the Curfew Enforcer. Although Bob not claiming does look suspicious, it appears the rest of the mafia followed the list, so I think Frogsterking is probably the Sicko.

That leaves this:
babyspice: Polster
BK3K: Lobbyist
Bob: Curfew Enforcer (possibly Sicko)
bozo: Detective
brainbomb: E-Mail Hacker
Chaqa: Door-Darter
damo: Paper Delivery Boy
Diplomacy&Warfare: Middle Manager
Frogsterking: Sicko (possibly Curfew Enforcer)
Hamilton: DaDa Driver
heart: Internal Affairs
Jamie: Police Commissioner
Kakarroto: News Host
Lfischl: Doctor
Nephthys: Ruber Driver
sweetandcool: Corrupt Cop
worcej: Mail Man

This means the mafia team is brainbomb, Hamilton, Jamie, sweetandcool, and one of Frogsterking and Bob.

this line here ("Kakarroto is the only one who fit as News Host" - which I coloured blue in the quote) is very interesting. How can bozo be so sure about that?

Especially since detective bozo can be sure that worcej is town?

Yes, he should have Worcej/kak as NH/mail. Another bad look for Bozo.

[damo666]

I think we should get Bozo and sweet to target either brain or baby. That should help resolve.

well there is an outside chance, so I'm not against it. Since bozo claimed to have scanned worcej, I would like to throw Brian into the mix as a potential scan target. Maybe bob, because there might some weird mechanical special case that he is town. Haven't seen it, but yeah, could've overlooked it.

I don't see the point of scanning Brian. There is no doubt about his slot.

[Jamiet99uk]

bozo, I can tell you that you are mistaken because I am not mafia. youve been out to get me all game and youve consistently been trying to list be as scum but when challenged youve fled that idea.

it started when you expressed that my fight with jamie couldnt be scum theatre but also wasnt evidence of me being t/t either. pretty much I think you have an agenda if you are town, or youre mafia pushing a bad mech list. either way its wrong.

You and Jamie are now both confirmed mafia from my perspective, and soon you will be confirmed as the E-Mail Hacker.

I will soon be confirmed as your mom

Bozo, can I come over after school?
(After school)
We can hang around by the server room
(Server room)
Did your mom get back from her business trip?
(Business trip)
Is she there, or is she trying to give me the slip?
(Give me the slip)

You know, I'm not the little Brainbomb that I used to be
I'm all grown up now
Bozo, can't you see?

Bozo's mom has got it goin' on
She's all I want
And I've waited for so long
Bozo, can't you see?
You're just not the droid for me
I know it might be wrong but
I'm in love with Bozo's mom

Bozo's mom has got it goin' on
Bozo's mom has got it goin' on.

[sweetandcool]

Sorry if this has already been covered, but I just wanted to post a clear list of town clears. These are essentially ironclad unless Bob is town and CCs one of them.

BK3K
Heart
Damo
Chaqa

[damo666]

One thing I dont like about frog is how he always asks for approval and validation on scumreads people have, but when he doesnt get an answer, he doesnt follow up and it makes the effort seem fake.

On several occasions frog has asked me questions about peoples meta, or scum history and I didnt even answer; and it never seemed to bother frog.

yeah, I haven't disregarded that frog still has a chance of being the sicko and it could be a great power wolf play, but I think, if not proven otherwise, I can't really see him (or you brain) as mafia this game.

the only was Frog can be sicko is if Bob is CE and then why would Bob play the way he has? Frog is 99.999999% CE

[Jamiet99uk]

Draw us a picture of your team

Something like this.

Angel Gang.jpg

That's a roboter there! Jamie conformed bozo mafia!

Mean Machine Angel is not a robot, and I am disappointed with your knowledge of the world of Judge Dredd.

[sweetandcool]

BK3K is lobbyist by merit of D2 vote count.

Heart is Internal Affairs since he would fill up the last alignment slot.

Damo and Chaqa are Paper Boy and Door Darter. Technically we don't know which is which.