Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

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Re: Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

#2061 Post by foodcoats » Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:15 am

Kakarroto wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:14 am
foodcoats wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:10 am
Kakarroto wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:10 am


why mail man?
Because then he would've received "Failure" because that's what I got.
that's my point, so he can't be mail man since he said he got "Electoral Commissions Officer". Or why would he say that if he was mail man?
Exactly, he cannot be the Mail Man. The only roles that could return a role name are PI and Corrupt Cop, and then that result cascades to the "readers," Mail Man and Hacker. But since Jamie targeted me and I know for certain I got "Failure," he didn't read my return, he read my role. And since the PI is dead, he is not the PI.

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Re: Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

#2062 Post by foodcoats » Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:16 am

Welp yes the fun has died, goodnight all!

But everyone keep claiming and help town get as much as we can as fast as we can.

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Re: Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

#2063 Post by damo666 » Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:20 am

This is fun!

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Re: Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

#2064 Post by Kakarroto » Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:22 am

foodcoats wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:15 am
Kakarroto wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:14 am
foodcoats wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:10 am


Because then he would've received "Failure" because that's what I got.
that's my point, so he can't be mail man since he said he got "Electoral Commissions Officer". Or why would he say that if he was mail man?
Exactly, he cannot be the Mail Man. The only roles that could return a role name are PI and Corrupt Cop, and then that result cascades to the "readers," Mail Man and Hacker. But since Jamie targeted me and I know for certain I got "Failure," he didn't read my return, he read my role. And since the PI is dead, he is not the PI.
"You are the Mail Man. You take a sneaky peak at people's mail as you deliver it. You return what your target returned."

why would it cascade to mail man? A town role? Who wouldn't lie about scanning you or their message if you get 'Failure'? Sorry that just doesn't make sense. At least to me. Is anyone getting what food is saying and can explain it to me?

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Re: Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

#2065 Post by Kakarroto » Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:25 am

damo666 wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:20 am
This is fun!
I think we have a different definition of fun. Or at least taste.

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Re: Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

#2066 Post by Chaqa » Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:28 am

foodcoats wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:01 am
Chaqa wrote:
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I got “undelivered” on Bob
This is the other important-for-being-narrow claim. Chaqa can be one of three roles: Maf Hacker, Paper Delivery Boy, or Mail Man (or the Door Darter, except he CANNOT be the Door Darter if sweet is telling the truth and received a delivery).
I don't know if I understand why my target was undelivered.

Does this mean I was roleblocked?

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Re: Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

#2067 Post by BobMcBob » Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:29 am

Correct me if I'm wrong, but middle manager also returns a role, yes?

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Re: Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

#2068 Post by BobMcBob » Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:33 am

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Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:29 am
Correct me if I'm wrong, but middle manager also returns a role, yes?
Although I suppose that's not relevant here since Bunny was clearly not ECO.

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Re: Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

#2069 Post by Hamilton Brian » Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:33 am

I feel like my head is stuck in a vice.

Just looking at the questions Biunny asked during initial setup.

1. If the Doctor's target is not attacked, does that return a "success" or "failure" message to the Doctor? 1. Failure. They didn't do anything

Ah, I kind of see how that works.

But this is wonky.

And I'm sus on the fact that lfishl didn't target me. I thought we had all agreed so why deviate?

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Re: Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

#2070 Post by sweetandcool » Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:35 am

foodcoats wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:15 am
Kakarroto wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:14 am
foodcoats wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:10 am


Because then he would've received "Failure" because that's what I got.
that's my point, so he can't be mail man since he said he got "Electoral Commissions Officer". Or why would he say that if he was mail man?
Exactly, he cannot be the Mail Man. The only roles that could return a role name are PI and Corrupt Cop, and then that result cascades to the "readers," Mail Man and Hacker. But since Jamie targeted me and I know for certain I got "Failure," he didn't read my return, he read my role. And since the PI is dead, he is not the PI.
This is pretty silly. One of you is lying, or both.

Scum have motivation to lie, but I think some town players (rightly or wrongly) have motivation to lie as well.

I'm not sure which one of you is lying yet.

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Re: Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

#2071 Post by Hamilton Brian » Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:38 am

foodcoats wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:04 am
sweetandcool wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:03 am
foodcoats wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:01 am


This is the other important-for-being-narrow claim. Chaqa can be one of three roles: Maf Hacker, Paper Delivery Boy, or Mail Man (or the Door Darter, except he CANNOT be the Door Darter if sweet is telling the truth and received a delivery).
I did not claim I received a delivery. I do not know my role.
You said:
sweetandcool wrote:
Mon Jan 22, 2024 11:47 pm
I got delivered.
What did that mean?
He was driven?

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Re: Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

#2072 Post by foodcoats » Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:38 am

BobMcBob wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:33 am
BobMcBob wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:29 am
Correct me if I'm wrong, but middle manager also returns a role, yes?
Although I suppose that's not relevant here since Bunny was clearly not ECO.
Ooh, good catch Bob! I didn’t play Excel hard enough. Not relevant re Jamie but def relevant to D&W’s possible roles.

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Re: Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

#2073 Post by foodcoats » Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:39 am

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:38 am
foodcoats wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:04 am
sweetandcool wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:03 am


I did not claim I received a delivery. I do not know my role.
You said:
sweetandcool wrote:
Mon Jan 22, 2024 11:47 pm
I got delivered.
What did that mean?
He was driven?
Not how driver works.

Sweet what did you mean, you sweet cool person?

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Re: Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

#2074 Post by Hamilton Brian » Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:39 am

Detective is still out there and returns an alignment? But we don't want that player outing themselves, right? No, I am not PR hunting.

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Re: Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

#2075 Post by foodcoats » Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:40 am

Chaqa wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:28 am
foodcoats wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:01 am
Chaqa wrote:
Mon Jan 22, 2024 11:55 pm
I got “undelivered” on Bob
This is the other important-for-being-narrow claim. Chaqa can be one of three roles: Maf Hacker, Paper Delivery Boy, or Mail Man (or the Door Darter, except he CANNOT be the Door Darter if sweet is telling the truth and received a delivery).
I don't know if I understand why my target was undelivered.

Does this mean I was roleblocked?
Yes, or you are maf hacker or mail man and read someone’s personal correspondence.

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Re: Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

#2076 Post by Hamilton Brian » Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:40 am

foodcoats wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:39 am
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:38 am
foodcoats wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:04 am


You said:



What did that mean?
He was driven?
Not how driver works.

Sweet what did you mean, you sweet cool person?
Right, DDDriver returns the target of their target. Same for Ruber.

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Re: Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

#2077 Post by foodcoats » Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:41 am

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:39 am
Detective is still out there and returns an alignment? But we don't want that player outing themselves, right? No, I am not PR hunting.
Yes, and internal affairs returns Town always, and mail man / hacker can read those returns

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Re: Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

#2078 Post by foodcoats » Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:42 am

foodcoats wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:39 am
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:38 am
foodcoats wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:04 am


You said:



What did that mean?
He was driven?
Not how driver works.

Sweet what did you mean, you sweet cool person?
I assume sweet was visited by door darter, who is a fruit vendor.

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Re: Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

#2079 Post by Nephthys » Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:45 am

foodcoats wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 12:58 am
foodcoats wrote:
Tue Jan 23, 2024 12:31 am
Diplomacy&Warfare wrote:
Mon Jan 22, 2024 11:55 pm
I returned "Electoral Commissions Officer"
Who did you target? (sorry if this is already posted later, catching up)
This is one of the most important claims so far because it produces the narrowest range of possible roles for D&W: Mafia Corrupt Cop, Mafia Hacker, or Mail Man. He is not the PI because Bunny was.

D&W is 66% scum mechanically, and all 12 other claims so far could also be the Mail Man (I am pretty sure at this stage that basically anyone with any claim could be the Mail Man, until we do second level triage). Overall it is quite likely D&W is scum if he is telling the truth (and if he is lying, I'm not sure why).
????

Middle Manager
You are the Middle Manager. You see what projects people are working on. You return the role of your target's target.

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Re: Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

#2080 Post by foodcoats » Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:46 am

Also I was targeted by curfew enforcer or sicko because ECO goes before NK.

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