M81: A Night To Remember [GAME THREAD]

[aarodactyl]

I do as I shall do when I do-do with my phone.

Do.

You have spread a lot of doo doo in this Day so far, that's for sure.

Says the guy who got warned by GMs for throwing doo doo himself

Comments like this aren’t helping

[ghug]

The following post came out early in the morning of the 22nd for me (and ghug is in roughly the same time zone.



The colors are just chaqas reads. All of the pairings were based on claims people made of partners. All of the behavior ghug mentions from you in his posts (that you’re saying he slipped in) happens after that post. He knows that you can’t be rhk’s partner since he is. If he assumes no one else lied, it means you’re my partner. Which means that you know he lied. It’s a simple deduction imo. It’s how I knew his partner was rhk at that point in time too.

Ok so IF demonRHK is ghug's partner he would know that I wasn't partnered with Demon but that doesn't imply that I would know he wasn't partnered with you UNLESS he made the assumption nobody else was lying which is a pretty big assumption to make to then say he knew that I knew he was lying.

That's an ugly sentence but I hope it's comprehensible.

Yeah I follow what you’re saying. I don’t agree it’s a big assumption to assume no other liars based on how the claims went down. But I’ll concede that’s subjective.

Especially given that you had just claimed damo was your partner. Why would you call out my fakeclaim to fakeclaim someone else?

[ghug]

Does town damo really believe he's solved the game right now?

[Jamiet99uk]

Jamie. thank you. I graciously accept your apology.

1. Now, why do you no longer scumread myself or damo.

2. Why did you try to speedwagon me with damo if you felt damo was 100% scum?

3. Why are you voting ghug and not aaro?

4. at the time you assumed I was partners with damo why was it obvious to you?

5. do you have a problem with aaro lying all this time about being partners with ghug, or passively lying by allowed the lie to continue?

1. You responded to my case linking you with HB in great detail and appeared very earnest in doing so. I don't think your EoD was very good, but I'm willing to accept your account for now.

With regard to Damo, my D1 scumread of him was really just vibes. I became less sure of it overnight and now I'm interested in his Ghug / Aaro thing. If Ghug and Aaro are scum it's not mathematically possible Damo is scum.

2. I didn't try to speedwagon you with Damo. I suggested a speedwagon on you, and Damo was the only person to respond. Damo's response is not something I have any control over.

3. Why shouldn't I vote Ghug?

4. I explained it before. Do you need me to repost it?

5. I think I do, yes.

[damo666]

So apparently the pairings are:

1 aaro/damo
2 Jamie/Sweet
3 brain/rdr
4 Chaqa/worcej
5 Ham/Kak
6 Ezio/Vecna
7 ghu/demon

I think pairs 2 and 3 are both TT

I also think worcej is town.

So I am down to 13 possible scumpairs.

[aarodactyl]

Ok so IF demonRHK is ghug's partner he would know that I wasn't partnered with Demon but that doesn't imply that I would know he wasn't partnered with you UNLESS he made the assumption nobody else was lying which is a pretty big assumption to make to then say he knew that I knew he was lying.

That's an ugly sentence but I hope it's comprehensible.

Yeah I follow what you’re saying. I don’t agree it’s a big assumption to assume no other liars based on how the claims went down. But I’ll concede that’s subjective.

Especially given that you had just claimed damo was your partner. Why would you call out my fakeclaim to fakeclaim someone else?

That doesn’t follow. The point damo is making is that you knew damo know someone lied. However it’s not a given that you knew that he knew it was you. For instance from your pov, I could have been ezio’s partner and vecna could have been damo’s.

[aarodactyl]

Yeah I follow what you’re saying. I don’t agree it’s a big assumption to assume no other liars based on how the claims went down. But I’ll concede that’s subjective.

Especially given that you had just claimed damo was your partner. Why would you call out my fakeclaim to fakeclaim someone else?

That doesn’t follow. The point damo is making is that you knew damo know someone lied. However it’s not a given that you knew that he knew it was you. For instance from your pov, I could have been ezio’s partner and vecna could have been damo’s.

This actually reads like nonsense tbh.

[Jamiet99uk]

It is quite amusing that aaro anf ghug are trapped in their mutual bussing. Neither can afford to move.

Are you 100% certain about this?

My vote is on Ghug and I'm happy with that.

How could I possibly be?

What is it then?

93%?
84.2%?
66.6%?

[Ezio]

damo666
Day-2 27:48
"I am totally lost with partner claims.

Anybody want to recap please.
"
This quote by damo looks really bad.
Isn't his whole case on Ghug b/c of fake partner claims that Damo is following and reading as a scumslip?

[ghug]

Yeah I follow what you’re saying. I don’t agree it’s a big assumption to assume no other liars based on how the claims went down. But I’ll concede that’s subjective.

Especially given that you had just claimed damo was your partner. Why would you call out my fakeclaim to fakeclaim someone else?

That doesn’t follow. The point damo is making is that you knew damo know someone lied. However it’s not a given that you knew that he knew it was you. For instance from your pov, I could have been ezio’s partner and vecna could have been damo’s.

I know now (with 99.something% confidence) that he knew I was lying then. At the time he was protecting me, I did not know he was your partner. Overnight I came to believe that he was and it made his behavior seem odd to me.

"I knew damo knew someone lied." is inaccurate. I know damo knew someone lied.

[ghug]

damo666
Day-2 27:48
"I am totally lost with partner claims.

Anybody want to recap please.
"
This quote by damo looks really bad.
Isn't his whole case on Ghug b/c of fake partner claims that Damo is following and reading as a scumslip?

Right?

[ghug]

Yeah I follow what you’re saying. I don’t agree it’s a big assumption to assume no other liars based on how the claims went down. But I’ll concede that’s subjective.

Especially given that you had just claimed damo was your partner. Why would you call out my fakeclaim to fakeclaim someone else?

That doesn’t follow. The point damo is making is that you knew damo know someone lied. However it’s not a given that you knew that he knew it was you. For instance from your pov, I could have been ezio’s partner and vecna could have been damo’s.

I follow it fine but the substance is nonsense.

[aarodactyl]

damo666
Day-2 27:48
"I am totally lost with partner claims.

Anybody want to recap please.
"
This quote by damo looks really bad.
Isn't his whole case on Ghug b/c of fake partner claims that Damo is following and reading as a scumslip?

To be a bit reductive, ghug essentially said he knew damo was my partner as of yesterday morning. Damo thought that was a scum slip. The reality is it was possible if ghug assumed no one else did a fake claim.

All of that is potentially consistent with the idea that damo didn’t follow what was happening. But also idk anymore.

[damo666]

Are you 100% certain about this?

My vote is on Ghug and I'm happy with that.

How could I possibly be?

What is it then?

93%?
84.2%?
66.6%?

Well either ghug slipped up or was a bit sloppy in saying what he did. I'm not sure whether Aaro pointing out how ghug couldn't have definitely known (unless he was scum) adds or detracts from my case.

[aarodactyl]

Especially given that you had just claimed damo was your partner. Why would you call out my fakeclaim to fakeclaim someone else?

That doesn’t follow. The point damo is making is that you knew damo know someone lied. However it’s not a given that you knew that he knew it was you. For instance from your pov, I could have been ezio’s partner and vecna could have been damo’s.

I follow it fine but the substance is nonsense.

Yeah fair enough. I remember seeing the pairing and being sure demon was your partner so I don’t think it was a scum slip from you.

[ghug]

damo666
Day-2 27:48
"I am totally lost with partner claims.

Anybody want to recap please.
"
This quote by damo looks really bad.
Isn't his whole case on Ghug b/c of fake partner claims that Damo is following and reading as a scumslip?

To be a bit reductive, ghug essentially said he knew damo was my partner as of yesterday morning. Damo thought that was a scum slip. The reality is it was possible if ghug assumed no one else did a fake claim.

All of that is potentially consistent with the idea that damo didn’t follow what was happening. But also idk anymore.

That's not even what damo's accusing me of. He's saying it's suspicious that I knew as of your claim. I did in fact conclude you were partners once brain claimed overnight, but he doesn't even have a problem with that.

[damo666]

damo666
Day-2 27:48
"I am totally lost with partner claims.

Anybody want to recap please.
"
This quote by damo looks really bad.
Isn't his whole case on Ghug b/c of fake partner claims that Damo is following and reading as a scumslip?

It's not inconsistent. Obviously I know my own pairing and therefore ghug's was wrong but apart from that I was a bit lost. I've subsequently sorted it out.

[aarodactyl]

damo666
Day-2 27:48
"I am totally lost with partner claims.

Anybody want to recap please.
"
This quote by damo looks really bad.
Isn't his whole case on Ghug b/c of fake partner claims that Damo is following and reading as a scumslip?

To be a bit reductive, ghug essentially said he knew damo was my partner as of yesterday morning. Damo thought that was a scum slip. The reality is it was possible if ghug assumed no one else did a fake claim.

All of that is potentially consistent with the idea that damo didn’t follow what was happening. But also idk anymore.

That's not even what damo's accusing me of. He's saying it's suspicious that I knew as of your claim. I did in fact conclude you were partners once brain claimed overnight, but he doesn't even have a problem with that.

oh wait you’re right. My brain is apparently done for the week. Sorry about that. Damo is just saying nonsense then

[ghug]

There's too much stupid in this thread right now. If you think me lying about my partner is scummy, you're wrong, but fine.

Pairings are as follows unless someone else is lying. Let's get back to actually scumhunting.

ghug and RHK
jamie and S&c
BB and rdr
Worcej and Chaqa
Kak and HB
Vecna and Ezio
damo and aaro

[damo666]

OK @ghug I'm getting a bit brainfried over all of this.

I think you are now backtracking and saying you were pretty certain I knew you were lying rather than absolutely knew.

If this is what happened then my case collapses.

Maybe I was over enthusiastic in thinking I had the game solved.

I'm gonna ##vote Chaqa because of HamB's vote moves.