MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

[ND]

Brain is always a big LOL

[rdrivera2005]

[quote=xorxes post_id=34294 time=1536758803 user_id=229

I agree, it was more useful to question him about it when he was alive.

It's just that rereading you, you don't seem to really have taken any interest in what he was doing after you expressed your initial scumread.
[/quote]

I agree with you, but if you look at my posts you will see I didn't questioned him or anyone else because I was not really active at the weekend (in fact it was a holiday here, as I already told).

But I also agree that I probably need to flip sooner or later, just think there are better targets now and don't get why your are so fixated on me this game. In my perspective it looks a lot like trying to get an easy myslinch and that's one of the reasons of my early scum read on you.

[y2kjbk]

What explains brainbomb's ecstasy? That he got a guilty on MF that's dying right now? That's not all that exciting.

[y2kjbk]

Brainbomb has been subtly, sometimes not so subtly, suggesting for a while that scum might have started with a cannon, but never actually pursued that thinking openly. I will enumerate the posts for both.

[xorxes]

But I also agree that I probably need to flip sooner or later, just think there are better targets now and don't get why your are so fixated on me this game. In my perspective it looks a lot like trying to get an easy myslinch and that's one of the reasons of my early scum read on you.

Your early scumread on me was an (over)reaction to my being surprized that you did not comment on my cannon plan. How were you an easy mislynch for not commenting on my plan?

[y2kjbk]

In no world do I claim cannon as scum. None.

why? last time you played scum you were pretty stiff. I feel like you would be improved.

Y2k writes- yea cannon holder should shoot squiggs.
Durga writes "Now were talking"

This implies durga agrees with y2k statement.

Then durga never again considers shooting squiggs
Never even posts a single read on squiggs
At EOD as squiggs is at 6 she writes "this sucks"

Then squiggs busses her

Brainbomb - Mr Investigator Townclear and frontrunner for town mvp with that scan
Bozotheclown - RIP
Chaqa - Inactive. Null
Damo666 - Seems himself. And by that I mean useless. Although he seems to be talking more than usual this game. Slight townlean.
DemonRHK - A lot of idle chat during N0. Makes a post potentially setting up a scumread on Flash, then apologizes. Finally gets around to posting reads on people, and they seem reachy. Slight scum


Durga - Claims cannon and pledges to shoot it. Retracts, no cannon shot, then reclaims. Whether scum or town, was probably waiting for a better shot. The playstyle seems pretty genuine though, hard to see scum be this ballsy. Slight town pending what happens with the cannon.


Flash2015 - Starts with a joke vote during night. Comments on Peterbot. Another joke post about tradition. Shows up in time to shoot MoscowFleet, then leaves. If Flash didn’t shoot MF, I would probably be voting Flash. He has not done anything really at all. But it looks like he is just lurking, reading the thread, and chiming in when he wants to. Maybe Flash is scum who realized that MF was going to die anyway and wanted the towncred of shooting him. Flash, please contribute more or else I might actually vote you. Slight scum.
Ghug - My favorite player to read because I cant read him worth crap. Seems pretty standard ghug this game, if maybe a little more reserved than previous games. Slight town.
MoscowFleet - Scum
ND - Didnt respond to my question N0, deferred all effort to D1. Still hasn’t put in any effort. Did this last game though and was town. Slight scum.
Rdrivera2005 - Has made some good comments, pointed out where other people made errors, helpful to town. Townlean, but this is exactly how I felt about rdrivera the last two games.
Snowy801 - Hasn’t done anything this game except joke. Why do we have so many inactive people this game? Slight scum.
Squigs44 - Town
Tom Bombadil - Starting post has two jokes, and a comment about xorxes cannon plan. Then reverses his thoughts on xorxes cannon plan pretty easily. Votes ND with no explanation. I don’t think Tom has really done anything to help town, and the vibes I am getting from him are off. Scumlean.
Vecna - Pretty standard Vecna. Active, pushing people, makes sense, seems genuine. Town.
Worcej - Weird reaction to BB’s claim followed by a bad answer when questioned. Basically claims armor at the beginning of the day. Why he would do this under either alignment IDK. Scumlean.
Xorxes - His cannon plan is probably NAI. Has been very talkative, but mostly about mechanics. Has gotten better lately, but still seems pretty meh. Null.
Y2kjbk - Gets off to a real fast start, and has been active, which is solidly in his town meta. Town

Top two scum are Tom and Worcej, with the third being one of Chaqa, Snowy, ND.

Squigs44
Day-1 47:40
page 13 Worcejs reaction to BBs claim looks off. Like he was trying to argue against BBs claim, and then realized how bad that would look.
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Squigs44
Day-1 47:17
page 15
↑worcej: "I had to go back and double check the rules on the items to ensure that it was a one-time investigator use. Once that wa..."
How does the investigation tool being a one time use change your mind on the authenticity of Brainbomb's claim? I'm not following.

Squigs44
Day-1 47:13
page 15 ##vote worcej

I didn't like his answer about his reaction to BBs claim.

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Squigs44
Day-1 46:57
page 16

↑worcej: "worcej's Toy Stats:
Health: 60
Armor: 1 (+1)
Hotkey: E
Sight: 9
Speed: 2.25"
Is this your way of claiming armor?



■these posts come after squoggs tells cannon to shoot moscow
■flash shoots moscow
■squiggs pushes worcej


For squiggs to be scum with worcej he would have to be basically just throwing all his weight here at a scumbuddy right after another scumbuddy JUST DIED

##Vote Flash

■squiggs wanted vig cannon to shoot moscow which seems more like a move scum would do if a teammate stood to gain cred off it

Itd be funny af if both cannons were scum

[y2kjbk]

flash2015
Day-1 00:07
page 44
↑Squigs44: "Flash, there is only one head."
I was assuming you were the thief. I guess I am trying to understand why you are not fighting this harder.

flash2015
Day-1 00:06
page 44
↑brainbomb: "Durga seems so fake and TMI on every post"
Too late to change now?

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flash2015
Day-1 00:03
page 45
↑Squigs44: "I'll vote Tom or Durga."
I am not sure about Tom...but I could vote Durga but it is probably too late for this day.

flash2015
Day-1 00:02
page 45 Something feels wrong here. There should be more drama...


Flash is here talking to squiggs about a durga cfd
But neither wants a tom lynch.

Flash had been on squiggs for 6 hours leadimg up to EOD asking why no new wagons were forming

On a number of occasions flash was voting squiggs but it didnt seem.like he really wanted to lynch squiggs.

Theres also this

flash2015
Day-1 24:40
page 24 My apologies for not communicating much. I didn't want to say too much the first night lest I give away that I have a gun. And we had a bit of a family tragedy Thursday night...so this hasn't been my highest priority.

Having said that I really didn't like Xorxes plan for cannon holders to announce themselves. It made no sense...especially from such an experienced player (it feels a bit scummy). I don't understand how anyone could possibly believe there is a chance I am still scum (how would giving town two chances to kill scum on the very first day have benefited scum??)...but perhaps in Squiggs case he is just displaying his reachy normalness.

Having said this, I probably got too excited about my cannon. There was no reason why I needed to shoot that early. I could have left it 24 hours to see who tried to discredit BB (a common scum strategy is to cast doubt on the bleeding obvious). It also would have given some time to see whether Durga's cannon claim was real. I haven't gone back and checked - did Durga reclaim the cannon before or after I shot? If she doesn't have the cannon, the person who does have the remaining cannon knows she is now lying

Are you guys seeing what im seeing here? Look at these posts.

[xorxes]

y2k, please stop spamming the thread.

[y2kjbk]

I'm done, i've highlighted everything of brianbomb i want until he makes his comeback to the thread.

[damo666]

Where's worcej? A day since last posting.

[rdrivera2005]

But I also agree that I probably need to flip sooner or later, just think there are better targets now and don't get why your are so fixated on me this game. In my perspective it looks a lot like trying to get an easy myslinch and that's one of the reasons of my early scum read on you.

Your early scumread on me was an (over)reaction to my being surprized that you did not comment on my cannon plan. How were you an easy mislynch for not commenting on my plan?

I am an easy myslinch because I have been scum more then anyone else and people tend to read me as scum. Even in a game where I was town, voted scum all days, people lynched me because I should be bussing

[flash2015]

Where's worcej? A day since last posting.

Why are we all townreading worcej again?

[damo666]

Where's worcej? A day since last posting.

Why are we all townreading worcej again?

quick response to brain's reveal of Moscow to vote Moscow

started the wagon on Squigs

claims armour

probably enough

[y2kjbk]

##CALLBRAINBOMB

[y2kjbk]

When I reference how I played with brainbomb in a crazy game, it was one where he was the doctor and claimed to be the doctor, the vig, and the cop all at different points, all creating a chaotic game that lead to his inevitable nightkill when town concluded he wasn't scum but clearly insane before he flipped.

[y2kjbk]

Sorry, now I'll stop. I just needed to surpass Brainbomb for number of posts this day until he comes back :D

[xorxes]

I'm done, i've highlighted everything of brianbomb i want until he makes his comeback to the thread.

Not sure if you're aware that red thing you quoted was written by Squigs and then badly quoted by brain.

[y2kjbk]

i'm plenty aware. red text is brainbomb explicitly adding his own message to the analysis so it stands out from otherwise drivel

[y2kjbk]

well, mostly otherwise drivel

[flash2015]

Where's worcej? A day since last posting.

Why are we all townreading worcej again?

quick response to brain's reveal of Moscow to vote Moscow

started the wagon on Squigs

claims armour

probably enough

The Squigs-worcej interaction kind of feels too jokey. Armour can also be owned by scum.