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Re: M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread

#5701 Post by kgray » Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:45 pm

kgray wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:43 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:41 pm
kgray wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:38 pm


Where do you get that from? Why would killing a town have caused Mafia to lose? If they were negative and scum!Chaqa died, they'd have lost. So I think they can't have been negative yesterday... Right?
Right. I had it the wrong way around.

So why did they hold the kill? Building up credits for one last double roleblock?
Well if we each are town and protect ourselves then they can't kill us without a RB. If town has a doc left, does that change mylo/kilo numbers?
It has to, right? Because it being tied at the start of night doesn't mean auto-win for scum if they can't guarantee a NK. Would it come down to just trying to outguess who they target?

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Re: M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread

#5702 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:45 pm

kgray wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:43 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:41 pm
kgray wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:38 pm

Where do you get that from? Why would killing a town have caused Mafia to lose? If they were negative and scum!Chaqa died, they'd have lost. So I think they can't have been negative yesterday... Right?
Right. I had it the wrong way around.

So why did they hold the kill? Building up credits for one last double roleblock?
Well if we each are town and protect ourselves then they can't kill us without a RB. If town has a doc left, does that change mylo/kilo numbers?
They could kill us in that situation if things got a little fruity.

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Re: M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread

#5703 Post by kgray » Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:46 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:45 pm
kgray wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:43 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:41 pm


Right. I had it the wrong way around.

So why did they hold the kill? Building up credits for one last double roleblock?
Well if we each are town and protect ourselves then they can't kill us without a RB. If town has a doc left, does that change mylo/kilo numbers?
They could kill us in that situation if things got a little fruity.
That's true.

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Re: M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread

#5704 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:51 pm

Then, we should remove anyone with the capacity to distribute items of fruit.

My careful analysis of the progress in this game leads me to conclude that Dargorygel is the most dangerous greengrocer in the entire county.

##VOTE DARGORYGEL

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#5705 Post by kgray » Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:58 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:51 pm
Then, we should remove anyone with the capacity to distribute items of fruit.

My careful analysis of the progress in this game leads me to conclude that Dargorygel is the most dangerous greengrocer in the entire county.

##VOTE DARGORYGEL
What's the case for darg besides the fact that he's FV? And while you're at it, why is damo your top townread?

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#5706 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:58 pm

@Fluminator: Do you think BunnyGo is scum?

If you do, vote him once, then back to your actual current target.

If you do NOT, vote me once, then back to your actual current target.

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#5707 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:12 pm

kgray wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:58 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:51 pm
Then, we should remove anyone with the capacity to distribute items of fruit.

My careful analysis of the progress in this game leads me to conclude that Dargorygel is the most dangerous greengrocer in the entire county.

##VOTE DARGORYGEL
What's the case for darg besides the fact that he's FV? And while you're at it, why is damo your top townread?
Multiple questions there.

First of all, the fact he's fruit vendor is important. It's a likely scum choice if you and I are both town. This was discussed earlier and I still agree with it.

Second of all, as I mentioned last night, Chaqa was opposed to the Dargorygel wagon on D2 and refused to join it, when Darg was the counter-wagon to Hellenic Riot. You were on that Darg wagon yourself, so you may remember those events.

Third of all, a lot of his statements and behaviour have seemed very weird and sketchy to me. There are lots of little things making that up. For example on D2 he accused me of not pushing people for non-participants, at a time when I was voting HR who was the lowest poster in the game at that point, and after I had been yelling at the D1 non-voters (which included HR, but never mind). Then he threw shade on me for not being present at a time when it was about 4am in the UK. He also voted me as an "info" flip at a time when he claimed to have a strong scumread on Teacon, who was a viable wagon.

Damo and Rdrivera are my joint top townreads right now, as I said last night. As the game has gone on, Damo has started to feel more like town Damo, doing Damo things. It's PoE because I scumread Dargo and Bunny, I'm leaning scum on Macca, I'm leaning scum on you, and after that me, Rdrivera, and Damo are all that's left.

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Re: M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread

#5708 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:13 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:12 pm

Damo and Rdrivera are my joint top townreads right now, as I said last night. As the game has gone on, Damo has started to feel more like town Damo, doing Damo things. It's PoE because I scumread Dargo and Bunny, I'm leaning scum on Macca, I'm leaning town on you, and after that me, Rdrivera, and Damo are all that's left.
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#5709 Post by damo666 » Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:26 pm

An interesting development. I need to go through all the implications/possibilities but my first thoughts are that either darg or one of the FH must be scum. At the moment my ranking would be darg/kgray/Jamie [s->t].

I will post again once I have made a full analysis.

FWIW I tracked Macca and he went nowhere. However given the no kill that tells us nothing of course.

Getting a bit late for me so back tomorrow.

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#5710 Post by TheMadMonarch » Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:52 pm

damo666 wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:26 pm
An interesting development. I need to go through all the implications/possibilities but my first thoughts are that either darg or one of the FH must be scum. At the moment my ranking would be darg/kgray/Jamie [s->t].

I will post again once I have made a full analysis.

FWIW I tracked Macca and he went nowhere. However given the no kill that tells us nothing of course.

Getting a bit late for me so back tomorrow.
Why track me?

I'm the UB/Governor, and we all know my ability has been used.

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#5711 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:58 pm

Macca573 wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:52 pm
damo666 wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:26 pm
An interesting development. I need to go through all the implications/possibilities but my first thoughts are that either darg or one of the FH must be scum. At the moment my ranking would be darg/kgray/Jamie [s->t].

I will post again once I have made a full analysis.

FWIW I tracked Macca and he went nowhere. However given the no kill that tells us nothing of course.

Getting a bit late for me so back tomorrow.
Why track me?

I'm the UB/Governor, and we all know my ability has been used.
Because we know you're the Governor, but we don't know you're *town*. If you're scum, and had carried out the kill, or performed a roleblock, Damo would have seen your movement. That's why it was still a reasonable choice to track you. Not necessarily the choice I'd have made, but an ok choice all the same.

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#5712 Post by TheMadMonarch » Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:59 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:58 pm
Macca573 wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:52 pm
damo666 wrote:
Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:26 pm
An interesting development. I need to go through all the implications/possibilities but my first thoughts are that either darg or one of the FH must be scum. At the moment my ranking would be darg/kgray/Jamie [s->t].

I will post again once I have made a full analysis.

FWIW I tracked Macca and he went nowhere. However given the no kill that tells us nothing of course.

Getting a bit late for me so back tomorrow.
Why track me?

I'm the UB/Governor, and we all know my ability has been used.
Because we know you're the Governor, but we don't know you're *town*. If you're scum, and had carried out the kill, or performed a roleblock, Damo would have seen your movement. That's why it was still a reasonable choice to track you. Not necessarily the choice I'd have made, but an ok choice all the same.
Ahhh. Makes sense.

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#5713 Post by rdrivera2005 » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:14 am

Well, we are still on milo (not consideringthe Doc save, that with a sure RH isn't something we can count), so a policy vote on Dargo is really weird Jamiet.

Do you think either Chaqa or Dargo are likely recruit candidates? Because this is the onlyv way I see for scum to have both TS and FV.

I think the recruit is either Kgray or Durga/Bunny. The no kill makes me less confident Kgray is scum.

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#5714 Post by dargorygel » Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:42 am

Rip nobody

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#5715 Post by dargorygel » Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:43 am

I now think scum chose one healer? To keep it out of townie hands.

Also, if my role is scum held, why wasn't it used? I suspect they missed the strongman application.

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#5716 Post by dargorygel » Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:45 am

And as we look... I remind us that "wrong" does not equal, "scum."

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#5717 Post by TheMadMonarch » Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:56 am

dargorygel wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:43 am
I now think scum chose one healer? To keep it out of townie hands.

Also, if my role is scum held, why wasn't it used? I suspect they missed the strongman application.
Used when?

We all know about the application, we have for a while.

If you mean last night, they didn't kill. Why would they use the strongman with no kill?

When are you referring to? What does this post mean?


This is very weird to me. Welcome to my #1 scumread spot.

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#5718 Post by TheMadMonarch » Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:56 am

dargorygel wrote:
Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:45 am
And as we look... I remind us that "wrong" does not equal, "scum."
What does this mean?

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Re: M61 - The Mastermind's Revenge - Game Thread

#5719 Post by Fluminator » Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:26 am

##Vote Jamiet
##Vote Kgray


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