M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread

[summit_fever]

summit_fever, why haven't you voted yet? At least from my past recollection when you were town, you would make a vote early.

This is inaccurate.

[summit_fever]

I feel like summit has had an awful long time since becoming a main wagon to do something remotely townie, and has singularly failed at it. He's dodged every single statement that multiple people have made about how he's playing this game so differently to last time, and so I really don't see a reason to change off of him.

summit voted for 6 different players D1 in M59, this game he has not said anything to indicate he suspects anyone.

##VOTE summit

That's true, but do you believe M59 is typical?

[Durga]

?? But why haven't you voted? Why are you still withdrawing your vote?

Who do you scum read?

[ghug]

?? But why haven't you voted? Why are you still withdrawing your vote?

Who do you scum read?

And who do you townread?

[Chaqa]

I do find it odd/suspicious that people would vote for me over those who have either disappeared, contributed nothing, or been completely disconnected from the game. It does truly strike me as wanting an easy miskill.

Why do you think you are an easier miskill then a lurker?

Because everyone loves jumping on the "lul Chaqa scum" wagon, and they also have things I've said/proposed that they can spin as scum ideas when really they just disagree with me, whereas lurkers they will ignore and town will be happy to ignore because of some misguided hope to glean information off killing me.

[damo666]

Summit seems like he doesn't care

[Chaqa]

I do find it odd/suspicious that people would vote for me over those who have either disappeared, contributed nothing, or been completely disconnected from the game. It does truly strike me as wanting an easy miskill.

Have you contributed something?

Have you? Has anyone?

Contribution in mafia is such a subjective thing. I feel like I've been involved and trying to contribute as best as I can on Day 1 - my feelings on the Road Runner, for example, being the first thing that popped out to me, which others have interpreted as scummy.

But would scum!Chaqa really do that? I've been playing and getting killed for my ideas for so long, why would I as scum do something like that and risk getting this exact scenario happen?

It just doesn't add up and I'm pretty sure at least 2 scum are voting for me.

[Chaqa]

I do find it odd/suspicious that people would vote for me over those who have either disappeared, contributed nothing, or been completely disconnected from the game. It does truly strike me as wanting an easy miskill.

I thought you said you don't think summit is scummy? If you think he's town, why would scum try to miskill you rather than miskill summit? Surely staying on summit would be the easier kill, rather than pushing your wagon now?

I don't understand what my post had to do with summit.

[TrPrado]

@Durga

Chiefly to see how you would react. Not as indignant as I expected.

damo is giving me the Bad Vibes TM

[kgray]

I do find it odd/suspicious that people would vote for me over those who have either disappeared, contributed nothing, or been completely disconnected from the game. It does truly strike me as wanting an easy miskill.

I thought you said you don't think summit is scummy? If you think he's town, why would scum try to miskill you rather than miskill summit? Surely staying on summit would be the easier kill, rather than pushing your wagon now?

I don't understand what my post had to do with summit.

I think he seems very likely to be the kill today, and I'm not sure why scum would try to suddenly push a Chaqa wagon as an easy miskill if summit is town like you seem to think he is. And you've also implied that you think damo is not scum. So basically I just don't see how you can think that the two leading wagons are town but also that you're being set up as an easy miskill.

[ghug]

I do find it odd/suspicious that people would vote for me over those who have either disappeared, contributed nothing, or been completely disconnected from the game. It does truly strike me as wanting an easy miskill.

Have you contributed something?

Have you? Has anyone?

Contribution in mafia is such a subjective thing. I feel like I've been involved and trying to contribute as best as I can on Day 1 - my feelings on the Road Runner, for example, being the first thing that popped out to me, which others have interpreted as scummy.

But would scum!Chaqa really do that? I've been playing and getting killed for my ideas for so long, why would I as scum do something like that and risk getting this exact scenario happen?

It just doesn't add up and I'm pretty sure at least 2 scum are voting for me.

Which two? Do you think summit or damo is being protected?

[TrPrado]

Ok good enough.
##Vote TrPrado

In a game where the jokevoting phase already went much longer than normal and the day 1 feels a little more lackluster than most, his only contribution is saying the first real wagon of the game "is ridiculous".
It sounds like he's very comfortable with an apathetic town.

I also usually can townread him when he's town.

lol

[Durga]

##vote summit

I'll spare you, Chaqa.

[summit_fever]

?? But why haven't you voted? Why are you still withdrawing your vote?

Who do you scum read?

I don't like Bunny's iso. ##vote bunny

[Durga]

?? But why haven't you voted? Why are you still withdrawing your vote?

Who do you scum read?

And who do you townread?

HR and Vecna I'm pretty sure are town

I feel good about kgray and Donny and damo being town too

[TrPrado]

I finally got around to reading further into M7.

Fluminator asked you this:

"@Maniac: No, my question was "If you were scum, would you check to see who your partners were this time before playing."

Your responded with this:

@Flum - Yes I think I would go with my Chinese Wall idea again, last game I asked bo to tell my team-mates I was playing blind and he refused so I had to look them up - I prob should have asked my son to post in the mafia thread on my behalf so I could've kept my blinkers on.

This sounds like you tried to play as mafia without knowing your teammates in M5 and talked about it again in M7 (it appears M5 was played after M6 and immediately before M7). Was the purpose of your first post this game to tell your teammates that you were "playing blind" if you were scum?

bozo I would like you to reread your question several times

I do not know what you are getting at.

I think it's a stupid question with no worthwhile answer is what I'm getting at. What does it tell you about his alignment? Why is this a thought worth pursuing?

[ghug]

?? But why haven't you voted? Why are you still withdrawing your vote?

Who do you scum read?

I don't like Bunny's iso. ##vote bunny

What about it don't you like?

[Durga]

?? But why haven't you voted? Why are you still withdrawing your vote?

Who do you scum read?

I don't like Bunny's iso. ##vote bunny

Do you have anything to say to defend yourself? I find it hard to believe that town!summit doesn't go down without a fight. Have you ever been miskilled?

What don't you like about Bunny? He's kinda been under the radar for me this game so far.

[ghug]

?? But why haven't you voted? Why are you still withdrawing your vote?

Who do you scum read?

And who do you townread?

HR and Vecna I'm pretty sure are town

I feel good about kgray and Donny and damo being town too

Oh I was asking him but ok

How can you townread HR on so little?

[Chaqa]

I thought you said you don't think summit is scummy? If you think he's town, why would scum try to miskill you rather than miskill summit? Surely staying on summit would be the easier kill, rather than pushing your wagon now?

I don't understand what my post had to do with summit.

I think he seems very likely to be the kill today, and I'm not sure why scum would try to suddenly push a Chaqa wagon as an easy miskill if summit is town like you seem to think he is. And you've also implied that you think damo is not scum. So basically I just don't see how you can think that the two leading wagons are town but also that you're being set up as an easy miskill.

Oooh, that does make some sense, and I don't have a great explanation for it as I hadn't put that much thought into it - I simply feel like I'm receiving unwarranted pressure. So then one of two things must be true:
1. Summit and/or damo are scum and this is a push to save them
2. This is a town push on me

Hmmm. I still feel like they aren't scum, so maybe it's #2.