M59 - Duck Season? - Game Thread

[kgray]

Anyway, I hate to risk the voodoo that is Night Kill Analysis after the shitshow last game... But why the hell is Damo the mafia kill N1? It's categorically not a fearkill (top memes if it actually was), which means they must have thought he was a PR.


And when Damo + PR come to mind... That brings us back to his push on foodcoats. And if they thought that Damo was the PR who was misreading Foodcoats as setting up for a cc against him, that also implies the scumteam had prior knowledge that foodcoats was not the PR in the first place.

I find this extremely compelling. However, another possibility is that they wanted to target someone who wasn't getting many scumreads and who was unlikely to be saved. I think damo fits both of those categories.

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 2.1

worcej (2) - TrPrado, goldfinger0303
foodcoats (2) - Hellenic Riot, rdrivera2005
Durga (2) - summit_fever, Fluminator
bozotheclown (1) - Vecna
goldfinger0303 (1) - BunnyGo
BunnyGo (1) - kgray

NOBODY is now set to have anything happen to them.

Plenty of time remains.

[summit_fever]

Not sure anybody has voted seth other than me so let's try

##vote durga

I’d join you on Seth over Durga.

I was just on seth.

I think I'm happy to flip Bunny too.

[bozotheclown]

Excellent, so now that you're out of that tunnel vision, who do you think is scum?

N1 I posted this:

flash is still the biggest question to me. If this was really how he felt, he could have just stayed away:



If flash is scum, my guess for the remaining 3 primary scum is flash, seth, and worcej (with kgray as an alternate to seth). If flash is town, my guess is Tom, hthefourth, and seth (or someone off wagon as the third, maybe HR).

So my top suspects are hthefourth and seth.

Has that list not changed at all given Tom's flip, though?

Tom flipping town is what makes me think my "flash is town" scenario is more likely, since I had Tom as scum in that scenario.

[kgray]

Durga, kgray, Tom and MF were townreading each other a lot on day one (although kgray did not townread MF and durga reserved suspicion about kgray). When Tom townread the other three, he even made sure to insert the caveat that Durga, kgray and MF as town were just his gut reactions and that he needed to think further on them.

This is not accurate. I did not townread either Durga or Moscow, and I don't think Durga townread me.

[Hellenic Riot]

N1 I posted this:



So my top suspects are hthefourth and seth.

Has that list not changed at all given Tom's flip, though?

Tom flipping town is what makes me think my "flash is town" scenario is more likely, since I had Tom as scum in that scenario.

Well, yes, but I meant do you not have any new thoughts based on the fact Tom is scum?

[bozotheclown]

Anyway, I hate to risk the voodoo that is Night Kill Analysis after the shitshow last game... But why the hell is Damo the mafia kill N1? It's categorically not a fearkill (top memes if it actually was), which means they must have thought he was a PR.


And when Damo + PR come to mind... That brings us back to his push on foodcoats. And if they thought that Damo was the PR who was misreading Foodcoats as setting up for a cc against him, that also implies the scumteam had prior knowledge that foodcoats was not the PR in the first place.

I find this extremely compelling. However, another possibility is that they wanted to target someone who wasn't getting many scumreads and who was unlikely to be saved. I think damo fits both of those categories.

It could make sense if foodcoats is scum also, to get rid of damo before he pointed out what he thought he say with foodcoats. I am still not sure what he was referring to.

[BunnyGo]

Not sure anybody has voted seth other than me so let's try

##vote durga

I’d join you on Seth over Durga.

I was just on seth.

I think I'm happy to flip Bunny too.

I’m aware. I’m saying, I prefer gold. But see my previous case, Seth is scummy as anyone. Durga is not

[foodcoats]

What are the chances that bozo is the traitor who signaled his team (Moscow, Bunny, Tom and Durga) with his rapid-fire D1 voting?

Kgray, what do you mean by the rapid fire voting being a signal? How does that signal Traitor?

[Hellenic Riot]

I think my choices are either Food or Durga today, but I would be open to getting Bunny.

[BunnyGo]

What are the chances that bozo is the traitor who signaled his team (Moscow, Bunny, Tom and Durga) with his rapid-fire D1 voting?

Kgray, what do you mean by the rapid fire voting being a signal? How does that signal Traitor?

<facepalm> read the rules and think.

[summit_fever]

I’d join you on Seth over Durga.

I was just on seth.

I think I'm happy to flip Bunny too.

I’m aware. I’m saying, I prefer gold. But see my previous case, Seth is scummy as anyone. Durga is not

Durga is not scummy? I've got a magic show tonight so lemme nail these posters up over your house here.

[kgray]

What are the chances that bozo is the traitor who signaled his team (Moscow, Bunny, Tom and Durga) with his rapid-fire D1 voting?

Kgray, what do you mean by the rapid fire voting being a signal? How does that signal Traitor?

Ummm.... I need help reacting to this.

[summit_fever]

What are the chances that bozo is the traitor who signaled his team (Moscow, Bunny, Tom and Durga) with his rapid-fire D1 voting?

Kgray, what do you mean by the rapid fire voting being a signal? How does that signal Traitor?

Ummm.... I need help reacting to this.

You're on your own.

[bozotheclown]

Has that list not changed at all given Tom's flip, though?

Tom flipping town is what makes me think my "flash is town" scenario is more likely, since I had Tom as scum in that scenario.

Well, yes, but I meant do you not have any new thoughts based on the fact Tom is scum?

I was already considering Tom being scum, the fact that Tom was killed by the jailer provides more information. The 2 remaining scum knew Tom was jailed and would probably be killed, so the scum would have a reason to scum read Tom during N1, but so might the jailer.

[summit_fever]

Kgray, what do you mean by the rapid fire voting being a signal? How does that signal Traitor?

Ummm.... I need help reacting to this.

You're on your own.

I remember foodcoats navigating the closed M55 okay so not sure why this would cause trouble.

[kgray]

Ummm.... I need help reacting to this.

You're on your own.

I remember foodcoats navigating the closed M55 okay so not sure why this would cause trouble.

Right? But like what is the scum motivation for playing so dumb?

[foodcoats]

You're on your own.

I remember foodcoats navigating the closed M55 okay so not sure why this would cause trouble.

Right? But like what is the scum motivation for playing so dumb?

I don’t think it’s a dumb question and I just checked the mechanics to see if I missed something and I don’t think I did.

But thanks and go fuck yourselves.

[Hellenic Riot]

I remember foodcoats navigating the closed M55 okay so not sure why this would cause trouble.

Right? But like what is the scum motivation for playing so dumb?

I don’t think it’s a dumb question and I just checked the mechanics to see if I missed something and I don’t think I did.

But thanks and go fuck yourselves.

Traitor knows his teammates but his teammates don't know him. So the traitor voting each teammate in turn could be a signal to them that he knows they're all scum and therefore he's the traitor.

[Fluminator]

Well this is a little interesting to wake up to.

I don’t get any read on Bunny from this as he tends to latch onto everything and anything and pursue it.

I would have thought bozo and damo had better opinions of me than to think I would do something as idiotic as they are speculating.

Kgray and sort of Vecna defending me a bit. Kgray pocketed me hard last game - don’t know she’d try to do it consecutively - so slight townread for her.

I am not speculating, I asked if you were trying to get recruited because it was being discussed. I do not think you would make that post as the real traitor, but possibly to try to draw the mafia recruit or at least keep them from killing you N1. My guess was that it was not related to the traitor name, which does not preclude you from being on the mafia team.

Lots of talk about the traitor with Tom. I could actually see it only being 3 out of 4 that he signalled and then this was to tip it over the edge. Maybe Bozo is more likely.
It would make sense for a traitor to be most vocal about protecting scum partners since they want to get recruited.
##Vote Bozo