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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#2181 Post by e.m.c^42 » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:54 pm

Don't know if Bismark would really act so addled as scum. I'm sure someone in the QT would've yelled at him, and getting a new player to fake townslips/townclear themselves with fake stupidity is a risk that most players as scum wouldn't take.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#2182 Post by ghug » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:54 pm

Tom Bombadil wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:52 pm
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Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:51 pm
Explain why bismarck, Tom. Did you not think his answers to me were dumb town rather than cornered scum?
Its mostly that I found him to be really calm when he was the leading wagon earlier. I scumread him for it, while townreading Nanook for his reaction of being frustrated.

Next time I see Bismarck he IS CAPITALIZING how ANGRY he is. SUPER FRUSTRATED.

Other than that, he is not a townread, so fits my POE ok
What do you make of the fact that your airtight argument here has convinced Fox to join you?

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#2183 Post by rdrivera2005 » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:54 pm

ghug wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:48 pm
I'd switch to Boat to save Riot. Think I'm even on him and Bismarck. Does anyone have strong reasons why emc is town?
If I have to choose a noob to vote is therul. I don't think he should be alive later in the game as any alignment. Same is valid for Temasek.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#2184 Post by Hellenic Riot » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:54 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:52 pm
Hellenic Riot wrote:
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rdrivera2005 wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:44 pm


It's not a bus, nor a bluff. But whatever.
Come on compadre, what part of my interrogation don't you like, and where on earth has your own interrogating been?
The part where emc gave a poor answer and you said it's reasonable. Or the two times you said to emc and TFB that their answer where a better explanation. I just don't remember you being so soft. It's like you don't want to really push them.
I've literally spent the last 3 pages pushing TFB to give a better answer. Have you managed to gloss over that entirely?

I prodded emc because his first answer left some other wagons out. I do not, and have never, scumread emc so no I am not about to push him all the way to EoD when somebody else who I do scumread is ignoring that question.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#2185 Post by Tom Bombadil » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:55 pm

ghug wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:54 pm
Tom Bombadil wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:52 pm
BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:51 pm
Explain why bismarck, Tom. Did you not think his answers to me were dumb town rather than cornered scum?
Its mostly that I found him to be really calm when he was the leading wagon earlier. I scumread him for it, while townreading Nanook for his reaction of being frustrated.

Next time I see Bismarck he IS CAPITALIZING how ANGRY he is. SUPER FRUSTRATED.

Other than that, he is not a townread, so fits my POE ok
What do you make of the fact that your airtight argument here has convinced Fox to join you?
Its a little weird since its not a great argument, and I'm not townclear or anything. I don't remember Fox strongly townreading me, so its a bit sus

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#2186 Post by ghug » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:55 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:54 pm
ghug wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:48 pm
I'd switch to Boat to save Riot. Think I'm even on him and Bismarck. Does anyone have strong reasons why emc is town?
If I have to choose a noob to vote is therul. I don't think he should be alive later in the game as any alignment. Same is valid for Temasek.
How is this a response to my post?

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#2187 Post by dargorygel » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:55 pm

##GM NOTE
VOTE COUNT 3.6
e.m.c^42 (4) Hamilton, ghug, goldie, TheFlyingBoat
BismarckAlive (4) tem, TomBomb, therul, foxy
TheFlyingBoat (4) HR, BunnyGo, emc, damo
Hellenic Riot (2) Nanook, rdrivera,
Nanook (2) Jamie, bo

No one is set to be unplugged
Not yet announcing a vote:
BismarckAlive

All have posted.
Around 5 minutes left today
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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#2188 Post by TheFlyingBoat » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:55 pm

Hellenic Riot wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:43 pm
damo666 wrote:
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Excellent. Will rdr's bluff bus stick or run away?
If you think rdrivera is bussing me, I am content to vote him with you. I do not like a cross between myself & emc because I still don't really scumread him. I would love TFB to actually answer my question (particularly given emc managed to answer pretty much the same question despite me asking him far later), and I don't know what to think about Bismarck just going full on angerposting, but rdrivera is full of bullshit here.
Your question for me is actually one that is a lot for difficult to answer. I don't think there was any coordination behind it and was just a lot of independent actors moving rapidly at the end of the day that resulted in a wild swing. Here's my thought process. The four votes that rapidly came in were Bunny switching from Summit to EMC, Damo switching from Bozo to EMC, Flash switching from Summit to EMC, and Goldie switching from flash to EMC. All the wagons that people jumped off were confirmed town by their death with flash and summit being VT and Bozo being the Chosen One. Flash is confirmed good by death and Damo is all but confirmed based on the oracle of the miller. Bunny I strongly believe to be scum. Goldie I don't know but doubt that scum would have two people jump on emc at that point so I am disinclined to believe that he is scum.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#2189 Post by Tom Bombadil » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:55 pm

##vote TheFlyingBoat

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#2190 Post by goldfinger0303 » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:55 pm

e.m.c^42 wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:51 pm
I kind of want to start a gold wagon lol, since I don't believe he really would think an info lynch works that way and that he would find my answers to said Q&A scummy (from almost three days ago?) but not clearly use it for a push till recently, but that would seem like pathetic omgus

I think whatever damo is doing with HR is over, so, ##vote theflying
It was literally last night (game time). And why are you so worried about how your actions are perceived?

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#2191 Post by BismarckAlive » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:55 pm

//vote e.m.c^42

He is the source of the mess in that chaotic EoD1.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#2192 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:55 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:54 pm
ghug wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:48 pm
I'd switch to Boat to save Riot. Think I'm even on him and Bismarck. Does anyone have strong reasons why emc is town?
If I have to choose a noob to vote is therul. I don't think he should be alive later in the game as any alignment. Same is valid for Temasek.
Was temasek an option?

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#2193 Post by ghug » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:55 pm

Tom Bombadil wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:55 pm
ghug wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:54 pm
Tom Bombadil wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:52 pm


Its mostly that I found him to be really calm when he was the leading wagon earlier. I scumread him for it, while townreading Nanook for his reaction of being frustrated.

Next time I see Bismarck he IS CAPITALIZING how ANGRY he is. SUPER FRUSTRATED.

Other than that, he is not a townread, so fits my POE ok
What do you make of the fact that your airtight argument here has convinced Fox to join you?
Its a little weird since its not a great argument, and I'm not townclear or anything. I don't remember Fox strongly townreading me, so its a bit sus
Do any of the other current wagons satisfy your PoE?

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#2194 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:55 pm

BismarckAlive wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:55 pm
//vote e.m.c^42

He is the source of the mess in that chaotic EoD1.
Wrong vote...use # marks.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#2195 Post by Tom Bombadil » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:56 pm

ghug wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:55 pm
Tom Bombadil wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:55 pm
ghug wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:54 pm


What do you make of the fact that your airtight argument here has convinced Fox to join you?
Its a little weird since its not a great argument, and I'm not townclear or anything. I don't remember Fox strongly townreading me, so its a bit sus
Do any of the other current wagons satisfy your PoE?
Boat does. I townread HR and emc (in that order)

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#2196 Post by ghug » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:56 pm

Cool, I like these wagons.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#2197 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:57 pm

IT's tied once Bismarck gets a valid vote in.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#2198 Post by Hellenic Riot » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:57 pm

goldfinger0303 wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:54 pm
Alright emc, I'm inclined to believe you. You haven't done anything especially town-ish, and your lack of participation is disconcerting, but your explanation of Chaqa scumread is ok. But step it up.

Someone explain the HR case. I already have a handle on Bis vs TFB
The 'HR Case' is rdrivera somehow thinking I'm not pushing TFB despite spending the last few pages doing exactly that. That's about it.

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#2199 Post by BunnyGo » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:57 pm

Hey Bismarck. Get a vote in...

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Re: Mafia 57 Matrix

#2200 Post by e.m.c^42 » Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:57 pm

goldfinger0303 wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:55 pm
e.m.c^42 wrote:
Mon Jul 13, 2020 9:51 pm
I kind of want to start a gold wagon lol, since I don't believe he really would think an info lynch works that way and that he would find my answers to said Q&A scummy (from almost three days ago?) but not clearly use it for a push till recently, but that would seem like pathetic omgus

I think whatever damo is doing with HR is over, so, ##vote theflying
It was literally last night (game time). And why are you so worried about how your actions are perceived?
I'm saying that my view on you is biased because you pushed my wagon, and that's why I'm not actually going to vote you, since it's a feelings thing?

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