M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

[worcej]

One of the scum is immune - you could have hit scum...

Fine. I aimed at EMC's corpse, whoever inherits that spot, because I wanted a lower post count but not a huge lurker.

You immediately vote me. You had 7 minutes to get your shot in on me. I'm sorry, I forgot that I'm a huge lurker.

I put my order in during the day - instant night phases yo.

[Chaqa]

I think EMC was quite a reasonable choice. Neph would have been good too

[worcej]

I think EMC was quite a reasonable choice. Neph would have been good too

I figured that he would not be saved and that I would not be role blocked with the JOAT's one RB shot. I imagine, if anything, the scum-JOAT used the scan last night and is saving the RB and the double vote for later.

[Chaqa]

I think EMC was quite a reasonable choice. Neph would have been good too

I figured that he would not be saved and that I would not be role blocked with the JOAT's one RB shot. I imagine, if anything, the scum-JOAT used the scan last night and is saving the RB and the double vote for later.

This seems plausible. With the commuter in play, maybe that’s why rivers was chosen too? As someone unlikely to be commuted?

[summit_fever]

Fine. I aimed at EMC's corpse, whoever inherits that spot, because I wanted a lower post count but not a huge lurker.

You immediately vote me. You had 7 minutes to get your shot in on me. I'm sorry, I forgot that I'm a huge lurker.

I’m not following this? Can you elaborate what you are trying to say?

I find it difficult to believe that worcej took a shot at emc.

[summit_fever]

Nephthys:

Yea so I'm happy to ruthlessly butcher damo/xorx

Maybe Chaqa for lols

He had a choice on which one to ruthlessly butcher and didn't take it.

[bozotheclown]

Well, not that it matters, so I'll just say it.

The other Vig is the real shot. Just an FYI for you.

Did you get any information about why your shot failed?

[bozotheclown]

Because a mislynch of town is not worth the information. And I would know that I'm town. I know some people share your view - I just think it is wrong. And I would do the same thing damo did regardless of alignment so I find in NAI

Well just know if I am ever being lynched and I am town, I'll let the flip go so you at least learn something from it.

Eh, I agree with Tom here somewhat. It's perfectly reasonable to vote for your counterwagon to save yourself if you're town.

@worc - I think revealing who you (attempted to?) shot at some point is good for town

I agree it is the correct play as town to tie the vote instead of letting yourself get lynched. However, waiting until less than minute left in the day while not giving any indication you are online is suspicious.

[xorxes]

xorxes (5) foodcoats bozotheclown worcej Chaqa damo666
damo666 (5) kgray Tom Bombadil rdrivera2005 summit_fever xorxes
worcej (1) Nephthys*
Non-votes: e.m.c^42

Everyone except for emc, Tom and worcej posted in the last minutes of the day.

If damo is town (and knowing that I am town), scum could easily have lynched either one of us unless scumteam is exactly Tom-worcej-emc/Vecna.

If damo is scum, then the other two were likely already voting for me, unless Tom, emc.

That would make kgray, summit and Neph clearish for me.

[bozotheclown]

Ok. So I think the other vig should probably shoot today and that would give some info.

The other vig could have already used their shot.

That's true - in which case they should probably claim.

I do not think they should claim, as I think it would have been better for worcej not to claim, assuming he is town. The town PRs are potential town clears later, revealing them early helps mafia.

[Vecna]

its a bit odd that worcej just jumped the shark on the assumptions he made after claiming he tried to shoot me, no?

Theres 3 other things that couldve happened yet he instantly assumes he's shooting blanks.

Would be a bit odd to jump into that pool as mafia now, but it might be the correct play.

[bozotheclown]

xorxes (5) foodcoats bozotheclown worcej Chaqa damo666
damo666 (5) kgray Tom Bombadil rdrivera2005 summit_fever xorxes
worcej (1) Nephthys*
Non-votes: e.m.c^42

Everyone except for emc, Tom and worcej posted in the last minutes of the day.

If damo is town (and knowing that I am town), scum could easily have lynched either one of us unless scumteam is exactly Tom-worcej-emc/Vecna.

If damo is scum, then the other two were likely already voting for me, unless Tom, emc.

That would make kgray, summit and Neph clearish for me.

If it was town vs. town, kgray, summit, and Nephthys would not have been able to easily lynch one of you unless they could react to damo's vote with seconds left in the day. I do not know why you would include Nephthys anyway, since his last post was this:

I’ll catch up in a few hours

[bozotheclown]

its a bit odd that worcej just jumped the shark on the assumptions he made after claiming he tried to shoot me, no?

Theres 3 other things that couldve happened yet he instantly assumes he's shooting blanks.

Would be a bit odd to jump into that pool as mafia now, but it might be the correct play.

That would be an interesting scum play, to fake claim before the town Vigs are revealed.

[bozotheclown]

Nephthys:

Yea so I'm happy to ruthlessly butcher damo/xorx

Maybe Chaqa for lols

He had a choice on which one to ruthlessly butcher and didn't take it.

That is a good point, maybe xorxes, damo, and Nephthys as scum? Nephthys comes back to pretend he forgot about the game and would not catch up before EOD?

[xorxes]

xorxes (5) foodcoats bozotheclown worcej Chaqa damo666
damo666 (5) kgray Tom Bombadil rdrivera2005 summit_fever xorxes
worcej (1) Nephthys*
Non-votes: e.m.c^42

Everyone except for emc, Tom and worcej posted in the last minutes of the day.

If damo is town (and knowing that I am town), scum could easily have lynched either one of us unless scumteam is exactly Tom-worcej-emc/Vecna.

If damo is scum, then the other two were likely already voting for me, unless Tom, emc.

That would make kgray, summit and Neph clearish for me.

If it was town vs. town, kgray, summit, and Nephthys would not have been able to easily lynch one of you unless they could react to damo's vote with seconds left in the day. I do not know why you would include Nephthys anyway, since his last post was this:

I’ll catch up in a few hours

If Neph was scum, his teammates could probably have told him in their chat what he needed to do, right?

If it was TvT, it was clear much earlier than the last second that I would vote for damo and damo would vote for me, so almost anyone who was here could have secured a mislynch if they wanted to.

[xorxes]

@bozo, what was/is your read of damo? It is clear that you preferred to lynch me over him, but given the risk of a tie, were you strongly opposed to a damo lynch, or were you just ok with the risk of a tie given there was still a chance of lynching me?

[Vecna]

Xorxes, convince me ur town in 2 lines of text

[xorxes]

So unless scum are being tricky, my obvious conclusion is that scumteam is one of: (Tom, worcej, Vecna) or (damo, [food, bozo, worcej, Chaqa])

Based on my previous townreads of Tom and emc/Vecna, I will for now focus on the second possibility, which gives me damo and, if I'm right about bozo being town, and worcej's claim goes unchallenged, that would leave food and Chaqa.

It might also explain why foodcoats was so agitated that I was "assuming" that Chaqa was town with my Neph vote.

[xorxes]

Xorxes, convince me ur town in 2 lines of text

I'm
town.

[foodcoats]

Here is everything summit said about damo and xorxes D1:

Hi Everybody!

Good town vibes off of kgray, chaqa and rdr.

Xorxes buddying Chaqa seems possible. Also may have tried buddying me.

Would like to see Bozo post some of his own thoughts.

Damo I just...I can see why you get scumread every game.

summit, do you believe that xorxes is scum? You seem to think that xorxes was trying to buddy two players. What do you think of the rest of xorxes' iso?

Do you believe that bozo is scum? Do you believe that rdr, who you townread, is on the right path with his current investigation of bozo?

Xorxes' iso doesn't read too well. It is defensive and I agree with you that that is unexpected. I can't say I'm convinced he's scum, but I wouldn't be surprised.

Bozo is hunting. Definitely leaning town.

I think Rdrivera is barking up the wrong tree there. He seems to have a dislike of posting quotes from old games which I can understand completely. Not sure I agree with him on targetting town!Xorxes being a good strategy for scum. I've gone more neutral on rdrivera at this point.

Thank you, summit.

What are your reads on the other players? Is there anyone who strikes you as particular scummy or townie so far? Who will you vote for?

town reads:

kgray/chaqa/food/bozo/Tom

neutral:

rdrivera/xorxes/emc/nephthys

scummy:

worcej/damo

Today, summit said:

Damo looks suspicious as shit simply because a town player should never intentionally tie the vote - your flip still has meaning on D1.

Rdr was a    but flip now makes him obviously look fine now.

summit I am questioning - why damo in the last 10 minutes? I don't see any mention of you scumming him in any way.

##vote summit

Are you seriously suggesting I haven't scummed damo?

summit, I most definitely do not think you scumread damo in any substantive way. In fact, the comments you made about how you would not be surprised to learn xorxes was scum, and the fact that you specifically lent credence to the notion that xorxes might be buddying, compared to the fact that you made zero positive statements of your own about damo, makes me think it is very strange that you would tie the vote to save xorxes and allow xorxes to push to lynch damo...

Again, since you had nothing concrete to say about damo but would not be surprised if xorxes was scum, and thought xorxes was buddying. So you had two concrete statements about scum!xorxes and zero concrete statements about scum!damo.

Can you explain your full rationale for why you thought damo was scum yesterday?

##VOTE summit