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Re: M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

#361 Post by summit_fever » Wed May 20, 2020 9:21 pm

rdr was a contrarian regarding bozo (was reading him as scum, came back to neutral at the end of day) and xorxes (town read). This night kill is good for confusion.

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Re: M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

#362 Post by Tom Bombadil » Wed May 20, 2020 9:21 pm

Because a mislynch of town is not worth the information. And I would know that I'm town. I know some people share your view - I just think it is wrong. And I would do the same thing damo did regardless of alignment so I find in NAI

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Re: M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

#363 Post by xorxes » Wed May 20, 2020 9:22 pm

Tom Bombadil wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 9:16 pm
Well, sorry for not being on at deadline. I'll try moving forward, but its tough for me with work - its why I don't play as much anymore, and why I can't GM anymore :(

Needless to say, a no-lynch D1 is a complete debacle as town, so lets not dwell on that and actually lynch someone today.

The rdr flip is interesting considering I don't think he was widely townread. Lets try to figure out why he was targeted.
From my perspective it suggests you or bozo are scum (and from each of yours probably the other two) although kgray has often been killed early as well (if I'm not getting things mixed up). I was obviously not going to be killed after D1 though. Scum may want to keep bozo to keep pestering me, so you are probably the most suspect by this kill choice, but it can also be scum wanting us to think that.

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Re: M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

#364 Post by xorxes » Wed May 20, 2020 9:23 pm

worcej wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 9:18 pm
xorxes wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 9:16 pm
worcej wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 9:13 pm
Well, not that it matters, so I'll just say it.

The other Vig is the real shot. Just an FYI for you.
Did you read the setup? Who did you shoot?
Yes. Irrelevant - I doubt who I aimed at was saved.
One scum is immune to Vig kill. It's not irrelevant who you aimed at.

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Re: M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

#365 Post by worcej » Wed May 20, 2020 9:23 pm

Tom Bombadil wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 9:21 pm
Because a mislynch of town is not worth the information. And I would know that I'm town. I know some people share your view - I just think it is wrong. And I would do the same thing damo did regardless of alignment so I find in NAI
Well just know if I am ever being lynched and I am town, I'll let the flip go so you at least learn something from it.

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Re: M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

#366 Post by Chaqa » Wed May 20, 2020 9:24 pm

Something's on fire at work but it's on the server guys' plates now. That's a really shitty result. Xorx/Damo both voted their opposing wagons, so probably NAI on those two, but summit's vote is a little odd (and quite obviously was a dangerous one to make).

SvS Day 1?

Anyway, I have no reason to not just vote xorxes again. Nothing has changed to make him any less scummy.

##Vote xorxes

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Re: M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

#367 Post by summit_fever » Wed May 20, 2020 9:24 pm

worcej wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 9:18 pm
Damo looks suspicious as shit simply because a town player should never intentionally tie the vote - your flip still has meaning on D1.

Rdr was a :? but flip now makes him obviously look fine now.

summit I am questioning - why damo in the last 10 minutes? I don't see any mention of you scumming him in any way.

##vote summit
Are you seriously suggesting I haven't scummed damo?

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Re: M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

#368 Post by Chaqa » Wed May 20, 2020 9:27 pm

worcej wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 9:23 pm
Tom Bombadil wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 9:21 pm
Because a mislynch of town is not worth the information. And I would know that I'm town. I know some people share your view - I just think it is wrong. And I would do the same thing damo did regardless of alignment so I find in NAI
Well just know if I am ever being lynched and I am town, I'll let the flip go so you at least learn something from it.
Eh, I agree with Tom here somewhat. It's perfectly reasonable to vote for your counterwagon to save yourself if you're town.

@worc - I think revealing who you (attempted to?) shot at some point is good for town

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Re: M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

#369 Post by summit_fever » Wed May 20, 2020 9:28 pm

##vote nephthys

9 minutes to go and he's cracking about forgetting the game and takes off.

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Re: M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

#370 Post by Tom Bombadil » Wed May 20, 2020 9:28 pm

I don't really see a scum reason for worcej to lie here, so I consider him likely town

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Re: M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

#371 Post by kgray » Wed May 20, 2020 9:28 pm

xorxes wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 9:23 pm
worcej wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 9:18 pm
xorxes wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 9:16 pm


Did you read the setup? Who did you shoot?
Yes. Irrelevant - I doubt who I aimed at was saved.
One scum is immune to Vig kill. It's not irrelevant who you aimed at.
Also either worcej or his target could have been commuted.

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Re: M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

#372 Post by xorxes » Wed May 20, 2020 9:29 pm

@Chaqa, you said you were happy with both wagons. You were here at EOD, why did you not untie?

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Re: M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

#373 Post by worcej » Wed May 20, 2020 9:30 pm

summit_fever wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 9:24 pm
worcej wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 9:18 pm
Damo looks suspicious as shit simply because a town player should never intentionally tie the vote - your flip still has meaning on D1.

Rdr was a :? but flip now makes him obviously look fine now.

summit I am questioning - why damo in the last 10 minutes? I don't see any mention of you scumming him in any way.

##vote summit
Are you seriously suggesting I haven't scummed damo?
I don't see why you scummed him other than putting him with me.

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Re: M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

#374 Post by xorxes » Wed May 20, 2020 9:31 pm

kgray wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 9:28 pm
xorxes wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 9:23 pm
worcej wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 9:18 pm
Yes. Irrelevant - I doubt who I aimed at was saved.
One scum is immune to Vig kill. It's not irrelevant who you aimed at.
Also either worcej or his target could have been commuted.
Yes, or roleblocked. I don't understand why he is not giving out this information.

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Re: M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

#375 Post by worcej » Wed May 20, 2020 9:31 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 9:27 pm
worcej wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 9:23 pm
Tom Bombadil wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 9:21 pm
Because a mislynch of town is not worth the information. And I would know that I'm town. I know some people share your view - I just think it is wrong. And I would do the same thing damo did regardless of alignment so I find in NAI
Well just know if I am ever being lynched and I am town, I'll let the flip go so you at least learn something from it.
Eh, I agree with Tom here somewhat. It's perfectly reasonable to vote for your counterwagon to save yourself if you're town.

@worc - I think revealing who you (attempted to?) shot at some point is good for town
Nah, it isn't really worth revealing.

I highly doubt I was commuted. I highly doubt my target was also commuted.

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Re: M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

#376 Post by Chaqa » Wed May 20, 2020 9:32 pm

xorxes wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 9:29 pm
@Chaqa, you said you were happy with both wagons. You were here at EOD, why did you not untie?

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As I said, something blew up at work and I was working on it for most of the last hour or so. I had time for one or two posts but wasn't exactly following

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Re: M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

#377 Post by Tom Bombadil » Wed May 20, 2020 9:32 pm

One of the scum is immune - you could have hit scum...

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Re: M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

#378 Post by Tom Bombadil » Wed May 20, 2020 9:34 pm

Like if the other vig shoots today and nobody dies, there is a significant change you could have hit scum. I don't see the downside in revealing

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Re: M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

#379 Post by worcej » Wed May 20, 2020 9:35 pm

xorxes wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 9:31 pm
kgray wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 9:28 pm
xorxes wrote:
Wed May 20, 2020 9:23 pm


One scum is immune to Vig kill. It's not irrelevant who you aimed at.
Also either worcej or his target could have been commuted.
Yes, or roleblocked. I don't understand why he is not giving out this information.
Also, unlikely.

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Re: M1011 - Revenge of the Space Mutants - Game Thread

#380 Post by Jamiet99uk » Wed May 20, 2020 9:35 pm

GM NOTE

Substitution: Thank you VECNA for stepping in to replace EMC.

Vecna HAS REPLACED e.m.c^42
Vecna IS REPLACING e.m.c^42

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