M53: Mafia 1 Redux

[brainbomb]

When I try I get scumread for EOD1
When I try to stop trying I get told to keep hunting
When I catch the sk no one even looks at it
When I say to lynch me since my flip helps I get told im undermining town

[BunnyGo]

Done with Kalel ISO. Honestly, it was less scummy then I remembered. The main thing is the defensiveness and the noob card. After 5 games you aren't a newbie anymore.

The thing that gives me pause is this quote

If I was to switch my vote to Bob right now it would imply scum partnering with e.m.c.? Just checking...

Would scum Kalel be bold enough to ask this question? It just feel too easy.

Who was scum team with Kalel? They may be able to comment on his style?

[brainbomb]

dunno.what to say other than I dont understand this quagmire amd what im supposed to do for 48 hours. theres no way to save myself. you dont want me to stop trying but nothing I say is gonna change an inch anywhere in the game.

[BunnyGo]

@bobmcbob

I know that you have never played a 3rd party before. So it actually is really challenging. There is a rule, not sure if youre aware of it. If you claim serial killer, and claim who you killed, sometimes it unlocks the ability to win with town.

Its a hidden rule that they dont mention in the role pms usually. so if you need to claim sk join town and you can potentially get a new team

Got me to laugh again. And I’m at my company’s big quarterly meeting.

[brainbomb]

would it help if I sub out and have tom take over or would you just lynch him too

[BunnyGo]

BobMcBob
Day-2 47:48
page 65 / orig Damn, I really hope it wasn't the vig that shot xorxes. Losing the doctor is bad. Seems I was wrong about both Squigs and Neph though

BobMcBob
Day-2 47:43
page 66 / orig
↑flash2015: "Was someone following BB's advice to shoot Nepthys?"
Did bb shoot Nephthys? I really hope bb is not the vig...

pretty much how a brand new sk would post after their first kill. stunned at the other kills on the list. curious about them.

eager to unravel who did the other 2 kills. but not squiggs...

This is similar to what Jamie did with a gun as scum. Tried to set me up as the shooter “was that you Bunny?” Maybe Bob was paying attention?

[BunnyGo]

Losing Xorxes is a massive blow but not a massive surprise.

##vote Bunny

Maybe ask yourself why the vig didn’t shoot me. Me and everyone else here says I’m presenting scummy...yet I wasn’t shot. I even asked for it...

Just because you weren't shot doesn't mean you're town. Are we a joke to you?

Didn’t say that either. In fact I’ve said “I don’t really trust the people who townread me, because only me and the scum team know I’m town and my actions are scummy in reread” and “why didn’t vig shoot me?” (Quotes are paraphrased)

[BunnyGo]

You are kidding. Xorxes didn't self-save D1???

Fake town slip.

Agreed. Weird post.

[BunnyGo]

bunnygo is unlikely to be scum given that no one on emc wagon got shot

I don’t understand this statement.

[BunnyGo]

Why is this again?

I don’t know.

The funny thing is I know I am town. But I don’t trust anyone who thinks that, because I know I’m presenting as scummy. So only the scum no for sure I’m town. And so I’m pretty sure that at least one of my defenders is scum.

Bunny's navel-gazing is too much. But I seem to recall this also happened the other game I played with them.

Yup. I’m a mathematician. We navel gaze a lot.

[BunnyGo]

its safe to vote me foodcoats. put your vote back on me

I agree. Even if you're town, you are actively undermining our game.

However, I think there should be two good wagons. I don't like any of the existing ones. I think the second should be

##VOTE BunnyGo

Reasonable.

[BunnyGo]

This entire sequence looks like brainbomb is trying to prevent emc from getting lynched, except obviously the vote for emc. Trying twice to get Kitsune to correct her invalid vote that would have moved a vote off of emc was an obvious move to prevent an emc lynch. Considering all of this, I do not see any town motivation for the vote on emc as soon as emc became the leading wagon. It looks like typical bussing, getting on the emc wagon in case it became a run away wagon.

Also, emc did not make any comments about brainbomb after he started posting.

##VOTE brainbomb

On phone at work. But this is an interesting theory. I need to go back and reread in later.

This theory was presented several times already. All aboard the bus?

I have time. Will examine things tonight on computer.

[BunnyGo]

dunno.what to say other than I dont understand this quagmire amd what im supposed to do for 48 hours. theres no way to save myself. you dont want me to stop trying but nothing I say is gonna change an inch anywhere in the game.

Help me do some ISOs, analysis, reads...we can push theories. I think the louder people were targeted last night. Let’s make up for it and post stuff. Assign me some players and I’ll ISO in 12 hrs. You do some others.

[BunnyGo]

would it help if I sub out and have tom take over or would you just lynch him too

Put the pity party down. Roll up your sleeves.

[brainbomb]

http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?g=21&user=Vecna

a great great read
not what I was lookinh for but a very beautiful look at the diversity of vecna

[KalelChase]

RDR and Xorx seem to be subtly teaming/pocketing.

@Kalel

how did you go from this read day 1 to not even having rdr and xorxes mentioned by name in anything? this seems like you had them.as w/w

teaming/pocketing are not scum specific, correct? T vs. T could be teaming, and T vs. S would be pocketing? I really did look these terms up and thought I had them.
Looking at this based on what people have said this game would result int he scumminess of it coming from it being wishy-washy-hedging. Which, as a D1 observation, is more acceptable.

[KalelChase]

ok Damo is actually scum here

Can you connect the dots on how you got to this... I was ready to follow you on your vote earlier, but this one is different.

KalelChase
Night-1 04:50
page 57 / orig Without the spreadsheet this is all gut

Town
Squigs
Jamiet
Bob
Fox
​Vec-ish

Null (or SK)
Bozo
Kit
Anyone else

Scum or lean
Brain
Bunny
Neph "ish

xorxes was only good enough to be a null/anyone else?

That is correct. I don't know/remember them well, and with no votes/results/benchmark their behavior could have gone either way.

[brainbomb]

And theres only rabbits in this game. Potatoslicers are a myth.

Day-1 32:48
page 11 Yeah brainbomb, what are your reads you eloquent scummy horse

Vecna
Hey heath, lets ditch these suckers and play some civ

Page 17 : g=25&user=Vecna
Vecna
Day-1 24:43
page 17 Guys stop distracting brainbomb, his civ6 turns are taking too damn long

Vecna
Day-1 24:39
page 17 Stop counting on brainbomb if all people to get your reads for you and get them yourself.

People asking people for reads is like.......why not just wait and see if they'll do it if their own accord....

Especially when they're playing civ with me

remembering that even in games where vecna scumread me he not only talked to me, he would even stop.mid game to play civ 6 with me late into.a day phase

[KalelChase]

Done with Kalel ISO. Honestly, it was less scummy then I remembered. The main thing is the defensiveness and the noob card. After 5 games you aren't a newbie anymore.

The thing that gives me pause is this quote

If I was to switch my vote to Bob right now it would imply scum partnering with e.m.c.? Just checking...

Would scum Kalel be bold enough to ask this question? It just feel too easy.

Who was scum team with Kalel? They may be able to comment on his style?

Vecna knows be best on that side probably.

[brainbomb]

I am.specifically looking for a game and quote where I said no one ever reads my posts. and Vecna replied

I read everything you post bb