M53: Mafia 1 Redux

[Jamiet99uk]

I have decided to ##VOTE BRAINBOMB because he has been present on the forum more than once singe the game was born, and yet he has chosen to refrain from posting.

Its almost like he can't post.

I would recommend reading the thread in future

Sorry I'm still catching up.

I assume from this post that he has been banned or silenced again. Huh.

[Squigs44]

?

What part of my post confuses you?

Nvm, thought you had mixed up Kit and Bun, but it was just pronoun mistake on part of Bun

Is Bun male or female? It's difficult keeping track of everyone's pronouns nowadays

[Jamiet99uk]

##GM Note -

I've been informed that Brainbomb was silenced until 9:30 AM tomorrow. Since he'll be able to join in the fun and meet posting and voting requirements, I won't be replacing him, but I wanted to make an announcement so that it's known.

Oh, here we are.

Object #5: Meet mistakes with forgiveness and determination
Object #7: Maintain focus on the unity of all living beings.

I offer my apologies for prematurely voting for Brainbomb while he is unable to post.

##UNVOTE

[Jamiet99uk]

What part of my post confuses you?

Nvm, thought you had mixed up Kit and Bun, but it was just pronoun mistake on part of Bun

Is Bun male or female? It's difficult keeping track of everyone's pronouns nowadays

My pronouns are he / that's.

[e.m.c^42]

Besides that, I'm wondering how your observation of this syntactical error helps move this game along. Does this error give you an insight into Kakarrotos alignment?

Lol. It has been a good long while since Jamie last did something like this. It fills me with great reminiscence of yonder days of jamiemania

[bozotheclown]

Thank you to everyone who participated in my experiment. With 15 players participating, every player was selected between 2 and 8 times, with a good approximation of a normal distribution around the average number of selections, so it appears there is no statistically useful information to be gained from the results. As for reactions to my request, there was the obligatory criticism from Vecna and BunnyGo, with Vecna choosing not to participate.

I doubt any mafia member would include their 3 teammates in their "random" selections, so that may be useful later looking for the last mafia.

[e.m.c^42]

Nvm, thought you had mixed up Kit and Bun, but it was just pronoun mistake on part of Bun

Is Bun male or female? It's difficult keeping track of everyone's pronouns nowadays

My pronouns are he / that's.

I fear our darlin' spitfire kitten is soused by way of smog.

[Squigs44]

So emc it seems from your "?" post that you have thoughts on Kits alignment. Would you mind sharing those thoughts?

[Nephthys]

Thank you to everyone who participated in my experiment. With 15 players participating, every player was selected between 2 and 8 times, with a good approximation of a normal distribution around the average number of selections, so it appears there is no statistically useful information to be gained from the results. As for reactions to my request, there was the obligatory criticism from Vecna and BunnyGo, with Vecna choosing not to participate.

I doubt any mafia member would include their 3 teammates in their "random" selections, so that may be useful later looking for the last mafia.

This was my logic. Every mafia is likely to include at least one or more of their team mates. Exercises like this provide them with a difficult choice as to how many of their teammates to include. Therefore, I extrapolated that people who used random generations (Dice, first 5 etc) are more likely to be scum as they can avoid this (small) conundrum

[e.m.c^42]

I doubt any mafia member would include their 3 teammates in their "random" selections, so that may be useful later looking for the last mafia.

This seems like strange(?) logic as it comes from bozo, hm

perhaps it is my logic failing somewhere, but

[Nephthys]

I gotta say, this bozo plan feels weird in its execution.

In the past he normally updates a list and shares it for all. This seems like it, although founded in science, could be more of a ploy to live up to his meta than a realistic idea.

Can you share us the frequency chart/collated response.

[Squigs44]

Now that your inconclusive experiment is over Bozo, could you give us a read or two maybe?

[e.m.c^42]

So emc it seems from your "?" post that you have thoughts on Kits alignment. Would you mind sharing those thoughts?

don't have thoughts worth sharing as of yet but will extrapolate later

Question mark in this case was in regards to the "who" of reads rather than content

[bozotheclown]

I gotta say, this bozo plan feels weird in its execution.

In the past he normally updates a list and shares it for all. This seems like it, although founded in science, could be more of a ploy to live up to his meta than a realistic idea.

Can you share us the frequency chart/collated response.

BobMcBob 5
bozo 6
brainbomb 6
BunnyGo 5
damo 3
emc 5
flash 4
foodcoats 2
Foxcastle 5
Jamie 5
Kakarroto 8
Kalel 3
Kitsune 2
Nephthys 3
rdrivera 5
Squigs 3
Vecna 3
xorxes 2

[Nephthys]

Now that your inconclusive experiment is over Bozo, could you give us a read or two maybe?

Would you mind sharing some reads yourself as you seem to be pushing others to give reads without providing any yourself.

[bozotheclown]

I doubt any mafia member would include their 3 teammates in their "random" selections, so that may be useful later looking for the last mafia.

This seems like strange(?) logic as it comes from bozo, hm

perhaps it is my logic failing somewhere, but

I would not call it logic, but if I was mafia and my random selection happened to include all three of my teammates, I think I would change it if for no other reason than so that my teammates did not think it was on purpose.

[bozotheclown]

Now that your inconclusive experiment is over Bozo, could you give us a read or two maybe?

I do not have any significant reads yet. Do you remember/know Kakarroto?

[Jamiet99uk]

I'm in terrible, horrendous pain. My work hath been deleted from forum.

I cannot see EMC ever explaining what all this was about.

Can we have an explanation now, or can I be pointed to one, please?

[Foxcastle]

I doubt any mafia member would include their 3 teammates in their "random" selections, so that may be useful later looking for the last mafia.

This seems like strange(?) logic as it comes from bozo, hm

perhaps it is my logic failing somewhere, but

I would not call it logic, but if I was mafia and my random selection happened to include all three of my teammates, I think I would change it if for no other reason than so that my teammates did not think it was on purpose.

Why have people choose 5 names and not 4? If it was 4, I would think your logic would hold against scum naming all three of their teammates, and maybe against including 2. Choosing 5, maybe they let 2 stay in. And why ask people to exclude themselves from their lists? That also just gives scum more cover to distance themselves.

Anyway, I think it's all so WIFOMy that it won't be useful. We're all experienced players in this game (I think), so I doubt anyone (town or scum) saw that and didn't see the point. How many players here would actually deliberately name 2 or even 3 of their teammates as scum?

[Kitsune]

Not so hot takes:

Xorxes is town. He stole the only observation I had in the first few pages in that the role playing cleared some scum-scum pairs.

Out of the role players, Neph is wack, but I'm actually leaning town rn. We'll see if he can keep this mood up.

Vecna is being active, which is good for town no matter his alignment. Interesting that he and Xorxes have disagreed more than once so far, interested to see if that dynamic evolves.

As already noted, Kitsunes opening was cold. Kitsune can you explain more your comment around drunk Kitsune? You seem real hesitant, so give me something open and genuine.

Fox I'm absolutely on board for a ##vote emc

5 randos: Karkarrato, Bozo, BobMcBob, Kitsune, Rdrivera

Drunk Kit?

I have laughably low alcohol tolerance.

One drink I’m flirty, two drinks I’m sleepy, and I don’t really feel either of those moods are useful for me to play right now.

Is “forced” the same as “thinking about my post instead of blathering stream of consciousness”?

I do think about my posts, but I suppose I can stop if people don’t want me scum hunting at all. Just seems dumb.