20 Questions - Game 190

[cdngooner]

Born in the UK?

Yes.

1,2,5. Real dead human male.
3,4,7,9,11. Born in UK; 1800-1889.
6,10. Politician; but not head of state or prominent military figure.
8. Not known for arts.

[damo666]

Guess: Benjamin Disraeli

[cdngooner]

Benjamin Disraeli

No. If it had been Disraeli I would have had a much harder time answering the "arts" question as Disraeli was a noted novelist.

1,2,5. Real dead human male.
3,4,7,9,11. Born in UK; 1800-1889.
6,10. Politician; but not head of state or prominent military figure.
8. Not known for arts.

Not:
Benjamin Disraeli (damo666)

[Jamiet99uk]

Whilst not being head of state, did this person ever serve as Prime Minister, Chancellor, Home Secretary, or Keeper of the Royal Tin of Chocolate Biscuits?

[cdngooner]

Whilst not being head of state, did this person ever serve as Prime Minister, Chancellor, Home Secretary, or Keeper of the Royal Tin of Chocolate Biscuits?

I will ask for clarity before answering: by "Chancellor" do you mean the Chancellor of the Exchequer? The Lord Chancellor? Or any post carrying the word "Chancellor" as part of the title?

[Spartaculous]

We know he was a politician; was he notably a Tory?

[Jamiet99uk]

Whilst not being head of state, did this person ever serve as Prime Minister, Chancellor, Home Secretary, or Keeper of the Royal Tin of Chocolate Biscuits?

I will ask for clarity before answering: by "Chancellor" do you mean the Chancellor of the Exchequer? The Lord Chancellor? Or any post carrying the word "Chancellor" as part of the title?

I meant Chancellor of the Exchequer.

It would be very odd for a British person to refer generally to the Chancellor and specifically mean Lord Chancellor and not Chancellor of the Exchequer. "The Chancellor" is shorthand for ...of the Exchequer.

[cdngooner]

Whilst not being head of state, did this person ever serve as Prime Minister, Chancellor, Home Secretary, or Keeper of the Royal Tin of Chocolate Biscuits?

No.

It would be very odd for a British person to refer generally to the Chancellor and specifically mean Lord Chancellor

Is it? I'm Canadian and don't know your strange customs. I assume it is also odd to refer to anyone as the Keeper of the Royal Tin of Chocolate Biscuits. Also, until the question below, we had not established that he was a politician in the UK (only that he was born in the UK), and so he could theoretically have been a German Chancellor born in the UK (come on, you know someone would have done that Wikipedia search)!

We know he was a politician; was he notably a Tory?

Yes.

1,2,5. Real dead human male.
3,4,7,9,11. Born in UK; 1800-1889.
6,10,12,13. Tory politician; but not head of state, PM, Chancellor, or prominent military figure.
8. Not known for arts.

[Jamiet99uk]

Is it? I'm Canadian and don't know your strange customs. I assume it is also odd to refer to anyone as the Keeper of the Royal Tin of Chocolate Biscuits. Also, until the question below, we had not established that he was a politician in the UK (only that he was born in the UK), and so he could theoretically have been a German Chancellor born in the UK (come on, you know someone would have done that Wikipedia search)!

Don't worry, I was providing context, not criticising your judgement.

[Jamiet99uk]

Guess:

George Hamilton Gordon, Earl of Aberdeen

[JustAGuyNamedWill]

Guess:

George Hamilton Gordon, Earl of Aberdeen

Oof good guess.

[cdngooner]

Don't worry, I was providing context, not criticising your judgement.

Not at all; I was just being funny.

George Hamilton Gordon, Earl of Aberdeen

I see what you did there: picked three people with one name. Which one are you guessing? It doesn't matter; its no to all of them. Can't be George Hamilton-Gordon, the 4th Earl; he was Prime Minister (interestingly, also a Chancellor (of the Duchy of Lancaster), and born in the 1700's). Can't be George Hamilton-Gordon the 5th Earl either (he was a Liberal). George Hamilton-Gordon the 6th Earl doesn't seem to have amounted to much (not much originality in your given names over there, is there?) The 7th Earl was Governor-General of Canada, but alas he was named John.

1,2,5. Real dead human male.
3,4,7,9,11. Born in UK; 1800-1889.
6,10,12,13. Tory politician; but not head of state, PM, Chancellor, or prominent military figure.
8. Not known for arts.

Not:
Benjamin Disraeli (damo666)
Any of the several George Hamilton-Gordons, Earls of Aberdeen (jamiet99uk)

[Hominidae]

In the House of Lords?

[cdngooner]

In the House of Lords?

No.

1,2,5. Real dead human male.
3,4,7,9,11. Born in UK; 1800-1889.
6,10,12,13,14. Tory politician; but not PM, Chancellor, House of Lords; or prominent military figure.
8. Not known for arts.

Not:
Benjamin Disraeli (damo666)
Any of the several George Hamilton-Gordons, Earls of Aberdeen (jamiet99uk)

[DarthPorg36]

Equally or more famous for endeavors outside of politics?

Also, for clarification, when you say "Tory politician; but not PM, Chancellor, House of Lords; or prominent military figure." do you mean that they're
a. Tory politician; but not PM, Chancellor, or in House of Lords
or
b. prominent military figure

or

They're a Tory politician
but not a PM, Chancellor, House of Lords, or prominent military figure.

[Hominidae]

Equally or more famous for endeavors outside of politics?

Also, for clarification, when you say "Tory politician; but not PM, Chancellor, House of Lords; or prominent military figure." do you mean that they're
a. Tory politician; but not PM, Chancellor, or in House of Lords
or
b. prominent military figure

or

They're a Tory politician
but not a PM, Chancellor, House of Lords, or prominent military figure.

It's the latter, according to the questions that have been asked.

[cdngooner]

Equally or more famous for endeavors outside of politics?

No. Politics is really what this guy is known for.

Tory politician; but not PM, Chancellor, House of Lords; or prominent military figure.

Hominidae is correct. I was copying the style used by the questions. I'll clarify in this and future summaries.

1,2,5. Real dead human male.
3,4,7,9,11. Born in UK; 1800-1889.
6,10,12,13,14. Tory politician; not PM, Chancellor, House of Lords; not a prominent military figure.
8. Not known for arts.
15. Not known for anything as much or more than politics.

Not:
Benjamin Disraeli (damo666)
Any of the several George Hamilton-Gordons, Earls of Aberdeen (jamiet99uk)

[Spartaculous]

I've convinced myself it's Mark Sykes, so I will guess him.

[cdngooner]

I've convinced myself it's Mark Sykes, so I will guess him.

How the HELL did you get that??? That is CORRECT!!! There were so many others to choose from (ministers, opposition leaders, other diplomats, colonial administrators ...)

I thought for sure I would stump you with this one. Quite obscure as himself, but famous for the Sykes-Picot Agreement that drew the lines of the current Middle East; negotiator of the Balfour Agreement that put the Palestinians in the parts of the Middle East where they are today; and designer of the Palestine flag.

Absolutely fantastic, Spartaculous. Well done!

PS: When copying and pasting to start the next game, note that I neglected to put my name in as winner of the last game. I did, however, include that win in the Leaderboard if you decide to keep that up.

Again, well done.

[DarthPorg36]

Wow! Impressive!