Mafia 85: Return from Lockdown

[Kakarroto]

I'm really against that. I know I can't change it, but I really really dislike this.

[sweetandcool]

Whyyyyyyyyyyyy

[Chaqa]

yeah, I don't know much, if any about it. There was a movie about it? I think?

There have been a few films, including a rather divisive one in 1995 starring Sylvester Stallone, and a good one in 2012 starring Karl Urban.

But more importantly there are four decades' and counting worth of excellent comic books and graphic novels.

I may run a game with a Judge Dredd theme soon, now I'm thinking about it.

not quite my field of interest, and I think being in Austria and growing up in the countryside didn't exactly help.

I think it was the Silvester Stallone movie I heard of.

Don't bother with the Stallone one.

[Chaqa]

GM Note: Night will lay the full 48 hours because we did not inform you earlier of a deadline move. Apologies for the confusion.

Uhh the fuck ghug

[Kakarroto]

There have been a few films, including a rather divisive one in 1995 starring Sylvester Stallone, and a good one in 2012 starring Karl Urban.

But more importantly there are four decades' and counting worth of excellent comic books and graphic novels.

I may run a game with a Judge Dredd theme soon, now I'm thinking about it.

not quite my field of interest, and I think being in Austria and growing up in the countryside didn't exactly help.

I think it was the Silvester Stallone movie I heard of.

Don't bother with the Stallone one.

Fun fact: he was tricked by an Austrian to star in a very special movie.

[Nephthys]

Short hand of my logic

Chaqa/Food/Fisch all failed - Doctor/Sicko/CE
Jamie likely RB food, Frog likely RB Chaqa -> one is mafia
If Jamie roleblocked food, then Bob MUST be Middle manager
Given there are no other claims for a role return Dip must be CC OR Mailman and CC lied (This may be Jamie and he is Sicko)
Given Fisch also failed, this makes them likely the doctor

Either Worcej OR Bk3K must be NH (Success followed by Success)
As Bob is middle manager, thus returned ECO. Worcej is NH
Bob must have received ECO as his reveal for Jamie/Dip to both receive this
Bob and Dip are either MM/MM/EH

If the above statement by bob is correct then Chaqa/Damo are both town

Either sweet or Bozo is mafia

The Lobbyist targetted either BoB/Heart or Baby AND returned success
BK3K must be the lobbyist

Hearthrob is IA

For the claims to add up, the mail man MUST have recevied success
Therefore Dip is the email hacker
Kak targetted Frog who received success
Hamilton visited Damo who got delivered
Therefore Kak is mailman and Hamilton is scum

Brain is the pollster
Baby cannot be either dada driver OR ruber driver
In lieu of further claims, Neph must be the ruber driver

this here ("Either Worcej OR Bk3K must be NH (Success followed by Success) " forgets other people too, there is a success chain going from worcej to Kakarroto to frogster. At least if people claimed the truth

haven't looked at it further, but it looks there are some things overlooked. Please have a look at it again and double check it

I deliberately excluded frog because they have to have a role blocking role to make chaqas claim correct

[sweetandcool]

Ah, since Diplomacy is Middle Manager, that proves Bob targeted the ECO, which we know was Food.

[Chaqa]

##CallGM
I protest the decision. We hammered with the express intent of shortening the night phase. The players didn't fuck up here, so we shouldn't be punished.

[Chaqa]

Or, shortening the game, via a shortened day phase.

[sweetandcool]

##CallGM
I protest the decision. We hammered with the express intent of shortening the night phase. The players didn't fuck up here, so we shouldn't be punished.

I second this.

[Kakarroto]

Now I want mafia to nk me so I get to know why exactly that happened. That feels so wrong, having a 24 hour day and a 48 hour night, especially when we looked to be inside the time so we can be sure not having a long night.

Well it gives some peeps time to catch up. But I still don't like it.

[Nephthys]

Frog is not clear.

We assume his success on Chaqa meant he role blocked Chaqa, but it is possible Mafia role blocked Chaqa.

This is impossible because we have three failure (discharge/chaqa/food) for the ECO claims to work frog CANNOT be anything other than CE

[Nephthys]

If everyone posts to shorten the phase would that help?

Current requesters
Chaqa
Kākā
Sweet
Neph

[ghug]

GM Note:

It seems that upset people.

The concern is that announcing a shortened night with five hours to go risks people not seeing it. If we receive night actions from every player before phase shift time, and nobody vetoes an early ending, we will end night early. If either of these conditions are not met, night will stretch 48 hours.

I apologize again for the kerfuffle. If you want to veto an early end, please PM both GMs privately.

[Kakarroto]

Short hand of my logic

Chaqa/Food/Fisch all failed - Doctor/Sicko/CE
Jamie likely RB food, Frog likely RB Chaqa -> one is mafia
If Jamie roleblocked food, then Bob MUST be Middle manager
Given there are no other claims for a role return Dip must be CC OR Mailman and CC lied (This may be Jamie and he is Sicko)
Given Fisch also failed, this makes them likely the doctor

Either Worcej OR Bk3K must be NH (Success followed by Success)
As Bob is middle manager, thus returned ECO. Worcej is NH
Bob must have received ECO as his reveal for Jamie/Dip to both receive this
Bob and Dip are either MM/MM/EH

If the above statement by bob is correct then Chaqa/Damo are both town

Either sweet or Bozo is mafia

The Lobbyist targetted either BoB/Heart or Baby AND returned success
BK3K must be the lobbyist

Hearthrob is IA

For the claims to add up, the mail man MUST have recevied success
Therefore Dip is the email hacker
Kak targetted Frog who received success
Hamilton visited Damo who got delivered
Therefore Kak is mailman and Hamilton is scum

Brain is the pollster
Baby cannot be either dada driver OR ruber driver
In lieu of further claims, Neph must be the ruber driver

this here ("Either Worcej OR Bk3K must be NH (Success followed by Success) " forgets other people too, there is a success chain going from worcej to Kakarroto to frogster. At least if people claimed the truth

haven't looked at it further, but it looks there are some things overlooked. Please have a look at it again and double check it

I deliberately excluded frog because they have to have a role blocking role to make chaqas claim correct

but with that information, I don't necessarily am mail man, I also could be news host. That's the crux. Just because everyone fits in doesn't mean it's right. There can be different solutions that look correct but aren't. That's what I learned from foods flip.

[damo666]

Ah, since Diplomacy is Middle Manager, that proves Bob targeted the ECO, which we know was Food.

Hurrah!

[Chaqa]

GM Note:

It seems that upset people.

The concern is that announcing a shortened night with five hours to go risks people not seeing it. If we receive night actions from every player before phase shift time, and nobody vetoes an early ending, we will end night early. If either of these conditions are not met, night will stretch 48 hours.

I apologize again for the kerfuffle. If you want to veto an early end, please PM both GMs privately.

Which will never happen.

[Kakarroto]

GM Note:

It seems that upset people.

The concern is that announcing a shortened night with five hours to go risks people not seeing it. If we receive night actions from every player before phase shift time, and nobody vetoes an early ending, we will end night early. If either of these conditions are not met, night will stretch 48 hours.

I apologize again for the kerfuffle. If you want to veto an early end, please PM both GMs privately.

will we be informed that all conditions are met, so we are able to post our EoN reads? If yes, how?

[damo666]

GM Note:

It seems that upset people.

The concern is that announcing a shortened night with five hours to go risks people not seeing it. If we receive night actions from every player before phase shift time, and nobody vetoes an early ending, we will end night early. If either of these conditions are not met, night will stretch 48 hours.

I apologize again for the kerfuffle. If you want to veto an early end, please PM both GMs privately.

The only two who didn't vote yesterday and haven't posted N2 are heart and baby so imo only those two should be allowed veto. However since they would have to turn up before EON2 to fulfil D2 obligations even that is doubtful.

I see no reason for an extended night.

[damo666]

But GMs are GMs