M76 - Dungeons and Dragons - Game Thread [HIDDEN]

[Tom Bombadil]

Anyone who knows Wolfe - is this sheep mentality normal?

[Princess Neon]

Alright I have a fucking insane tin foil. It's insane and it's stupid and it is entirely unlikely but holy shit is it a God play if it's accurate but considering nobody is counter claiming it is probably unnecessary to even speculate but I want to speculate it anyways

Imagine if Darg fake claimed PR nobody CCd for whatever reason Rumi is also scum and has double vote so she votes with Darg covers his lie any CC is now unbelievable because Darg has proven he has a double vote.

It's bullshit but it would be such an insanely awesome woof play.

Now back to things that matter I think this set up is woof sided to an extreme we are at 9 v 4 a ML and NK takes us to 7 v 4

A day vig makes it 6 v 4 and we are essentially in mylo

If I'm woofu N0 I'm taking Day vig Double vote Vengeful and Godfather

At best your getting 3 free kills at worst your getting 3 for 2

Like in this scenario we are in the woofs can win by d3

Even if we kill the Vengeful they trade 1 for 1

Double vote trades a woof kill for a town kill also

With this set up even if we killed Vengeful and Double vote it's already 8 v 2 but they can also hide fur as long as possible...I dunno I'd take as much extra kpr as I could. Like if we just get MLs and NKs go thru days 1 and 2 it's already 7 v 4 and with all the kpr that can't be stopped like...jfc...

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[wolfu]

i think sabi might be mafia

not really confident but reading their iso that's the vibe i get

sources, MLA format, are required for this assignment

sure

so the general feeling i get is i'm not sure i see sabi working toward anything in their posts

normally my expectation is they try to build a towncore etc and they do give a few townreads once but they don't do it a lot, they don't build on those reads

they have two scumreads: you and damo. and the reasoning for both feels pretty unfair?

i could see scumreading you in the early game when you weren't doing much

but then you did start doing stuff, and the most reason i find from them is this:

Bona did someone piss in your cherrios

this is an actually disgusting post

Good.

Any reason why you are behaving differently this game compares to m75

you're acting differently from a previous game. which is raelly thin and not a good reason to scumread someone but they don't follow up on this line of questioning with you, which makes me wonder how genuine it was actually supposed to be

their posts on damo say this:

I do think Tom and damo are being weirdly pushy in terms of causing in fighting in the game thread. Just making a note of that.

For now tho ##VOTE damo because his iso is bad and kinda shit stirry. It's not relaxed like usual

I do think Tom and damo are being weirdly pushy in terms of causing in fighting in the game thread. Just making a note of that.

For now tho ##VOTE damo because his iso is bad and kinda shit stirry. It's not relaxed like usual

What on earth are you talking about?

Your pushes have been opportunistic and you are using the fact people didn't participate in bozo little poll as a basis of your scum hunting when it's NAI.

Also you have been instigating shit.

Why’d you lump me in there Sabi?

What about me has been pushy? And I don’t really think I’ve caused any fighting - but if so, is that bad?

It's not necessarily truly a scum motivated thing but causing bad thread vibes is a thing they do strive for.

It just hasn't felt like you were pushing to solve.

he's "shit stirry" and "instigating" and "more engaged than usual".

the last one isn't really a valid reason for a scumread at all, and i never got the sense damo was instigating anything at all, it just feels entirely untrue.

so i don't like the reasoning for either of sabi's scumreads. but i also feel like the way they're defending people is suspect?

these are posts about drag when he was top wagon vlose to the deadline:

darg can self pres on bozo, bona, or damo and seems defeated instead.

I don't think he's a hit :/

Wouldn't dargo attempt to fake solve and have reads since he has tmi as wolf by now.

He's not doing anything to save himself which is giving me town dargo vibes.

posts like these read to me like "scum performatively distancing from an elimination while not making arguments that will actually be convincing to anyone"

Also Sabi, if this is her town game, how did you not notice last time? She feels like an entirely different person.

Also... Is there anything to solve at this point? There's no real arguing and rawr like last time. No really obvious lies or contradictions. And while I admit I'm being unrealistic expecting scum to slip up so someone can be all like "You said X ten hours ago and now you're saying Y." or a "I never said it was poison moment", everything so far mostly feels like static to me.

In pink.

Because I feel like I am a lot more familar with her now that I have seen her mafia game. I can compare the two. I didn't see her mafia game before. I know what's capable of.

Plus I have seen her in two games since the last webdip one so I feel confident that this is town neon.

the level of confidence on the neon townread with the simple justification of "now i've seen her mafia game i know it's not like this" (while neon insists her gameplay is the same and sabi hasn't actually given concrete elaboration on what is supposed to be different) kind of feels like typical scum giving an overconfident townread because they know that person is town


and this might not be convincing to you but i'm still really rubbed the wrong way by sabi repeatedly defending me from attacks on Day 1 while making no attempt to actually solve me. even if sabi says they can't read me well (they almost assuredly will), i don't think it makes sense to not even try to figure out my alignment while still shutting down reads on me

[wolfu]

Anyone who knows Wolfe - is this sheep mentality normal?

not particularly, no - normally i'm strongly independent with my reads, but after day 1 i felt like i was maybe not playing that well and it would be better if i followed someone else's lead

[wolfu]

and i respect the towngames of brainbomb and riot

[Tom Bombadil]

and i respect the towngames of brainbomb and riot

Why do you townread HR?

You have to be pretty confident his alignment to sheep him

[wolfu]

and i respect the towngames of brainbomb and riot

Why do you townread HR?

You have to be pretty confident his alignment to sheep him

do you think he's possibly scum? i haven't played with him in a forum game so i don't know if he's capable ofthis level of...intensity as scum, esp. being semi-retired and all. i felt like he came into the game thread looking to bust the doors down so to speak and it wasn't really necessary to enter the game like that as mafia after a day 1 misexe. he was a skilled player in chat mafia but in my memory was generally more invested in playing as town

[BesharamSabi]

*wolfy pop in*

Nyquil didn't put me to sleep so I was doing stuff to prep for next weekend.

Yea I'm not being my usual self this game. The set up is weird and the atmosphere is uncomfortable for me. I am struggling to find other town people and people are just not playing like they usually do hence why my ability to make a town core is not here.

I dunno, I just feel a bit lost.

But yea I'm going to try to get better at this game.

But yea scum reads are fine on me. I need some sort of pressure to push me.

[Tom Bombadil]

That’s a weirdly somewhat reflective answer.

I take it to mean that right now you are strongly townreading Hr - correct?


To you questions, I 100% think this is in HRs scum range for sure. I think Hr is one of the best players as town or scum.

That being said I townlean him because this strong scum read on me more or less based on gut seems like town HR.

[BesharamSabi]

Like legit two people I have townread so far are dead (worcejic and brain)

Rumi and Neon are the only ones I have any sort of confidence are town. Why do I think they are town:

• rumi: still has the pure tone in her posts. She is driving conversation and trying to push the game forward.

• neon: has been way more aggressive and less pocket compared to her mafia game, has tried to solve my slot and other slots, her pushes feel like they have nuance

My scumreads are people like Bona, bozo, and damo

• bona: straight up feels weird. His obsession on three slots is super wolfy from him. His world view so far feels shallow. His push back on anyone trying to solve the game in their own way feels performative because he usually is this pedantic.

• bozo: he feels like the shell of his former self. Very empty. Idk feels like the quiz was a look at me doing my meta.

• damo: I just don't have great vibes on this slot. I'm also the least confident in this scum read because it's based off vibes

[BesharamSabi]

bo likes to kill me when hes mafia and im playing well

so hopefully ill be dead.

bye all, kill bozo, bo and tom. then itll be easy riding.

Why are people ignoring this

[BesharamSabi]

Bosox posts on 598, 599 and 600 look wolfyu

viewtopic.php?p=313702#p313702

Bo calls out Tom for townreading rdrivera. This moment is where Tom says that scum rivera would not fake forgetting a game had started and therefore rivera is strong town.

Bo picks up on this and shows this is something irregular and he attempts to call out Tom for this read.

It would be one thing to say this is NAI but why in the world would you townread him for this?

My gut instinct in this moment was that bo was town, noticed a shitty TMI read and found this highly sus.

The following post Bo laments that I am back.

The post following that he says

In fairness he forgot last game started until about D5

I realize this doesnt mean a whole lot to anyone but to me this is bo on a team with scum tom bomb. and bo is asking his scum partner openly why tf are you doling out a townread on a slot we can abuse??

by end of day bo actually does try to push rdrivera. Is it a big deal? nah probably not to anyone who has their own ideas about who scum is.

It represents to me a fakeness in bo, and a lack of desire to challenge people for bad stances. Rather than actually push tom for what seems to be a pretty caustic bad read, bo just ignores tom and pushes rdrivera later anyway, which tom doesnt have a problem with at end of day either.

basically bo and tom are scum together.
keep looking for reasons why fam

Anyway

##VOTE bo

[Tom Bombadil]

bo likes to kill me when hes mafia and im playing well

so hopefully ill be dead.

bye all, kill bozo, bo and tom. then itll be easy riding.

Why are people ignoring this

Because Bona said analyzing NKs is useless, duh!

[BesharamSabi]

Like legit two people I have townread so far are dead (worcejic and brain)

Rumi and Neon are the only ones I have any sort of confidence are town. Why do I think they are town:

• rumi: still has the pure tone in her posts. She is driving conversation and trying to push the game forward.

• neon: has been way more aggressive and less pocket compared to her mafia game, has tried to solve my slot and other slots, her pushes feel like they have nuance

My scumreads are people like Bona, bozo, and damo

• bona: straight up feels weird. His obsession on three slots is super wolfy from him. His world view so far feels shallow. His push back on anyone trying to solve the game in their own way feels performative because he usually is this pedantic.

• bozo: he feels like the shell of his former self. Very empty. Idk feels like the quiz was a look at me doing my meta.

• damo: I just don't have great vibes on this slot. I'm also the least confident in this scum read because it's based off vibes

I have bo on the negative side of null and am only voting him in respect to brains poe till I figure out its not bo.

[BesharamSabi]

bo likes to kill me when hes mafia and im playing well

so hopefully ill be dead.

bye all, kill bozo, bo and tom. then itll be easy riding.

Why are people ignoring this

Because Bona said analyzing NKs is useless, duh!

Bona has literally done nka before so like I don't get his push back on this.

[Tom Bombadil]

I don’t really remember a single thing bo said..so maybe a reread in order.

Sabi - your thoughts on wolfu?

[BesharamSabi]

I don’t really remember a single thing bo said..so maybe a reread in order.

Sabi - your thoughts on wolfu?

He's still null for me.

Give me an irl day or two to get a read off him. I just need more time.

[Tom Bombadil]

But that seems pretty much WIFOM.

I still think the likeliest reason is they thought he was PR. Second likeliest is because of his reads. Third because he was mostly townread

[Tom Bombadil]

But that seems pretty much WIFOM.

I still think the likeliest reason is they thought he was PR. Second likeliest is because of his reads. Third because he was mostly townread

“That” referencing the brain/bo connection.

[BesharamSabi]

But that seems pretty much WIFOM.

I still think the likeliest reason is they thought he was PR. Second likeliest is because of his reads. Third because he was mostly townread

“That” referencing the brain/bo connection.

Yea as I said in my sod post. There's three possibilities why he was killed. I kinda want to look at each possible perspective.