M60 - Duck Season? (Director's Cut) - Game Thread

[bozotheclown]

##VOTE BunnyGo
##END

[Fluminator]

This is so vague it is impossible to respond to.

A couple hints.

You're not a robot like you pretend to be. You shut off all emotions in these types of games because you're worried they'd affect you.
The fact that they affect to degree you have to shut them off means you are actually quite empathetic. You therefore struggle with the more vicious part of the game of getting innocent players killed as scum.

I notice you bus a lot as scum. This further supports my theory that you don't like going against players you know are innocent. It's emotionally taxing for you to go against innocent players and set up miskills.

So inside your head is quite interesting, and explains your town and scum game pretty well to me.
I'm getting tired so I'll continue this tommorow.

First, if you have concluded I bus a lot as scum, I do not think you are really looking at any past games. Second, it is just a game.

The games I've played with your scum game you bussed.
Games make up the fabric of society.

[ghug]

A couple hints.

You're not a robot like you pretend to be. You shut off all emotions in these types of games because you're worried they'd affect you.
The fact that they affect to degree you have to shut them off means you are actually quite empathetic. You therefore struggle with the more vicious part of the game of getting innocent players killed as scum.

I notice you bus a lot as scum. This further supports my theory that you don't like going against players you know are innocent. It's emotionally taxing for you to go against innocent players and set up miskills.

So inside your head is quite interesting, and explains your town and scum game pretty well to me.
I'm getting tired so I'll continue this tommorow.

First, if you have concluded I bus a lot as scum, I do not think you are really looking at any past games. Second, it is just a game.

The games I've played with your scum game you bussed.
Games make up the fabric of society.

You both make terrible points

[Vecna]

##vote TrPrado

Did you think BunnyGo's claim had a chance of being real?

A small chance. The fact chaqa had been trying to gently steer us away from the wagon and onto seth and prado for quite some time couldve implied he knew bunny was the jailor.

You coming in here after the fact and attacking/questioning the people that acted in a (fmpov) reasonable way is dodgy as fuck.

[Vecna]

Just remember, this should be our pool for the daykill today (and any potential guns today/tonight):

Bunny
Donny
Nanook
Seth
TrPr​ado
Vecna
worcej

Hey chaqa, I know i shouldnt give a shit about this apparently, but im just gonna wanna adress that bit of analysis you did here regardless.

1: You used the wrong votecount and I was actually on summit before you claimed.

2: My late vote is completely Nai. Everyone that has played with me these last bunch of games should know by now I always do my last bit of catchup before EoD if im around and then decide where my vote should be. Im pretty sure I also signalled extensively all throughout the day that my vote was going to be on summit unless he obv-towned, but apparently people did not interpret my posts that way (I guess can somewhat see why if you just look at my iso).

3: The posts you state where im defending summit, is not me actually defending him. They were a failsafe against two things. Firstly, to make sure summit wasnt just being a PR playing a lot more under the radar. Unlike a lot of the people here, apparently, I do also remember games where summit played a lot more reserved during D1 as town and needed time to pick up steam (sure it wasnt as bad as here if you view the entire day). And second, also to keep the wagon momentum from ruining any information during the day. You did not quote my direct question to flum to unvote (which he did) but that was also strongly done to achieve these two.

I get where youre coming from, but theres two sides to this coin, and there was genuine town reasoning behind it my actions.

This is a lot of justification for your summit vote at a time he was obviously headed for the kill.

so? you think its fake?

dont be weakly implying shit. outline what you think is unbeliebable

[Vecna]

Maybe he's 3p that needs to be nk'd and then dk'd

well, he cant have been nkd so even then he fails his wincon.

it sure wouldve been a better fakeclaim as scum though.

[Vecna]

ive been trying to think of possible merit in asking for a cc here, but its probabaly just easier to shout at bunny during night if he really did all this unlikely hocuspocus nonsense.

##end

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 3.1

BunnyGo (13) - kgray, worcej, Vecna(END), ghug(END), Hellenic Riot(END), Donny Dude, damo666, Tom Bombadil, flash2015, Nanook(END), Durga(END), Fluminator(END), bozotheclown(END)

seth24c (1) - BunnyGo(END)

Currently BUNNYGO is set to be revoked

9 end votes one the *same* target are needed to end the phase early. Currently there are 7 endvotes on Bunny.

[Vecna]

also, bunny being scum just fits better in the narrative of the game, and it gives us more usefull answers.

HR has a pretty believable trajectory if bunny flips scum, where he flipped his read on me based on that eod and pending seths identity. I dont think hes likely to come up with that, unless hes especially conniving and bunny is town and seth is scum, but the alternative is so much more believable.

Bozo's alignment also becomes much more clear. if this unpredictably flips town, it actually looks pretty good on bozo for doing his questioning today (that underlies the assumption of a bunny scumflip, since its attacking people.over letting bunny get away with it). Scumflip on bunny makes me highly suspicious there, as its almost like hes trying to paint a bad image on the people that listened to chaqa without having a doubt that bunny could still be town here.

[damo666]

Congrats durga.

##end

1 more endvote required to end day.

[Nanook]

Bunny flipping mafia would also doubly confirm me so that’s nice

[damo666]

Bunny flipping mafia would also doubly confirm me so that’s nice

Doubly confirm what and how?

[bozotheclown]

A couple hints.

You're not a robot like you pretend to be. You shut off all emotions in these types of games because you're worried they'd affect you.
The fact that they affect to degree you have to shut them off means you are actually quite empathetic. You therefore struggle with the more vicious part of the game of getting innocent players killed as scum.

I notice you bus a lot as scum. This further supports my theory that you don't like going against players you know are innocent. It's emotionally taxing for you to go against innocent players and set up miskills.

So inside your head is quite interesting, and explains your town and scum game pretty well to me.
I'm getting tired so I'll continue this tommorow.

First, if you have concluded I bus a lot as scum, I do not think you are really looking at any past games. Second, it is just a game.

The games I've played with your scum game you bussed.
Games make up the fabric of society.

Can you give me examples?

[bozotheclown]

##vote TrPrado

Did you think BunnyGo's claim had a chance of being real?

A small chance. The fact chaqa had been trying to gently steer us away from the wagon and onto seth and prado for quite some time couldve implied he knew bunny was the jailor.

You coming in here after the fact and attacking/questioning the people that acted in a (fmpov) reasonable way is dodgy as fuck.

I was not able to be online at EOD, do you think I should not try to find out what people were thinking about BunnyGo's claim at the time he made it?

[Nanook]

Bunny flipping mafia would also doubly confirm me so that’s nice

Doubly confirm what and how?

Town obviously, off associatives with summit and bunny

[bozotheclown]

Hey chaqa, I know i shouldnt give a shit about this apparently, but im just gonna wanna adress that bit of analysis you did here regardless.

1: You used the wrong votecount and I was actually on summit before you claimed.

2: My late vote is completely Nai. Everyone that has played with me these last bunch of games should know by now I always do my last bit of catchup before EoD if im around and then decide where my vote should be. Im pretty sure I also signalled extensively all throughout the day that my vote was going to be on summit unless he obv-towned, but apparently people did not interpret my posts that way (I guess can somewhat see why if you just look at my iso).

3: The posts you state where im defending summit, is not me actually defending him. They were a failsafe against two things. Firstly, to make sure summit wasnt just being a PR playing a lot more under the radar. Unlike a lot of the people here, apparently, I do also remember games where summit played a lot more reserved during D1 as town and needed time to pick up steam (sure it wasnt as bad as here if you view the entire day). And second, also to keep the wagon momentum from ruining any information during the day. You did not quote my direct question to flum to unvote (which he did) but that was also strongly done to achieve these two.

I get where youre coming from, but theres two sides to this coin, and there was genuine town reasoning behind it my actions.

This is a lot of justification for your summit vote at a time he was obviously headed for the kill.

so? you think its fake?

dont be weakly implying shit. outline what you think is unbeliebable

I do not know if it is fake, but I am not sure I buy the part about you extensively signaling you would eventually vote for summit. You voted for damo when damo was leading summit 4-3, that looks like a signal that you preferred to kill damo over summit. Then you kept your vote on damo for over 5 hours during which time damo and summit were lead wagons, and when you unvoted at 1:45 before EOD, summit had overtaken damo 6-5.

When Chaqa voted for summit 14 minutes before EOD to make the vote summit 10 Maniac 7, you waited 7 minutes before voting for summit. Where you waiting to see if anyone would vote for Maniac?

[bozotheclown]

Bunny flipping mafia would also doubly confirm me so that’s nice

Doubly confirm what and how?

Town obviously, off associatives with summit and bunny

What association did you have with summit besides not voting for him?

[bozotheclown]

##vote TrPrado

Did you think BunnyGo's claim had a chance of being real?

A small chance. The fact chaqa had been trying to gently steer us away from the wagon and onto seth and prado for quite some time couldve implied he knew bunny was the jailor.

You coming in here after the fact and attacking/questioning the people that acted in a (fmpov) reasonable way is dodgy as fuck.

Did you not notice Chaqa was voting for BunnyGo at the time BunnyGo claimed?

[Tom Bombadil]

##end

I think that should do it.

[Jamiet99uk]

DAY HAS ENDED - HAMMER APPLIED
PLEASE HOLD