M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#4101 Post by Fluminator » Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:41 pm

xorxes wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:40 pm
Fluminator wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:37 pm
xorxes wrote:
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Also, patient zero will have one more piece of information, and they may still not know who their teammates are, so maybe it is not so obvious.

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Is it bad if they know their teammates?
They can't vote as a block to win if they don't know who they all are.
If there's a sudden block of votes near EOD that has 3 people, I think we'd notice.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#4102 Post by xorxes » Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:43 pm

Fluminator wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:41 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:40 pm
Fluminator wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:37 pm

Is it bad if they know their teammates?
They can't vote as a block to win if they don't know who they all are.
If there's a sudden block of votes near EOD that has 3 people, I think we'd notice.
Are you saying it doesn't matter if PZ knows their teammaets or not?

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#4103 Post by Fluminator » Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:44 pm

Xorx, were you serious about saying we'd lynch Fox if he wasn't nightkilled today?

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#4104 Post by bozotheclown » Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:45 pm

Fluminator wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:41 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:40 pm
Fluminator wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:37 pm

Is it bad if they know their teammates?
They can't vote as a block to win if they don't know who they all are.
If there's a sudden block of votes near EOD that has 3 people, I think we'd notice.
If town is split between 2 wagons, it could just take one vote move to swing the lynch. That is why we should make sure the vote is 7-1 (or 6-1 D7) before EOD.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#4105 Post by Fluminator » Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:45 pm

xorxes wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:43 pm
Fluminator wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:41 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:40 pm


They can't vote as a block to win if they don't know who they all are.
If there's a sudden block of votes near EOD that has 3 people, I think we'd notice.
Are you saying it doesn't matter if PZ knows their teammaets or not?
I think I'd prefer if they did.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#4106 Post by xorxes » Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:48 pm

Fluminator wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:44 pm
Xorx, were you serious about saying we'd lynch Fox if he wasn't nightkilled today?
Of course not, I wanted mafia to think about that possibility.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#4107 Post by bozotheclown » Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:48 pm

A no lynch also gives the mafia the chance to remove the player they think is the greatest threat to them.

I think we should try to get a consensus lynch today, when we still have 5 town.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#4108 Post by xorxes » Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:49 pm

Fluminator wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:45 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:43 pm
Fluminator wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:41 pm

If there's a sudden block of votes near EOD that has 3 people, I think we'd notice.
Are you saying it doesn't matter if PZ knows their teammaets or not?
I think I'd prefer if they did.
That makes some sense as well.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#4109 Post by kgray » Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:50 pm

xorxes wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:49 pm
Fluminator wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:45 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:43 pm


Are you saying it doesn't matter if PZ knows their teammaets or not?
I think I'd prefer if they did.
That makes some sense as well.
How? Even if PZ knows their teammates, we don't know that they do.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#4110 Post by xorxes » Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:51 pm

kgray wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:50 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:49 pm
Fluminator wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:45 pm

I think I'd prefer if they did.
That makes some sense as well.
How? Even if PZ knows their teammates, we don't know that they do.
It's just easier to find connections if they do.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#4111 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:51 pm

It’s a tough call. I’d love to see one more flip before we vote. I dont think there is an obvious kill choice. There is nobody who I am sure is Town, frankly.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#4112 Post by Fluminator » Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:52 pm

I don't agree, but I don't feel like forcing it through.

There's a few people I'm going to sheep today (not saying who since I don't want to be accused of buddying lmao), and I think the other players who have been vocally leading the game so far incorrectly should do the same.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#4113 Post by Fluminator » Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:53 pm

(don't agree on lynching in mylo)

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#4114 Post by kgray » Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:53 pm

xorxes wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:51 pm
kgray wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:50 pm
xorxes wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:49 pm


That makes some sense as well.
How? Even if PZ knows their teammates, we don't know that they do.
It's just easier to find connections if they do.
Sure, but if we don't even know if PZ knows then we don't know if the connections are real. And we only have one mislynch, so whatever info we get from votes only matters if we lynch scum, which would be easier to do if PZ doesn't know their teammates (I think).

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#4115 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:54 pm

How about this:

I think that everyone needs to start from scratch, go back to the game, and re-read important events with all the new info that we know. Let’s do that, and come back in 24 hours, and everyone present their thoughts and reads. And let’s talk about where we are at that point.

Even if we do No Lynch, we’ll want to use all the time we can to re-read and to get whoever it is who will be NKed to present their reads too.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#4116 Post by Jamiet99uk » Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:04 pm

Well, well, well, well, well, Balki.

Kek.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#4117 Post by Fluminator » Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:05 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:59 pm
Foxcastle wrote:
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Jamiet99uk wrote:
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Patient Zero must act every night.

The Killer performs the kill every night while they are alive.

You would only need to watch a target once if they were one of these.

What the fuck did you watch the same people TWICE for???
READ THE SETUP, JAMIET. "You will learn anyone who visits the player that night."
Oh fuck ,sorry, watcher not tracker. Duh.

Do excuse me, I apologise. You'd think I'd know those roles. Ignore me.
Did you think it was the tracker this entire time?

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#4118 Post by xorxes » Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:06 pm

Day 1

Temasek22 (7) brainbomb kgray Jamiet99uk bozotheclown rdrivera2005 Chaqa damo666
worcej (4) BunnyGo Fluminator Balki Bartokomous Foxcastle
brainbomb (3) Vecna bo_sox48 Temasek22
Foxcastle (1) worcej
Chaqa (1) xorxes
No‑Lynch (1) Pjandy
Fluminator (1) e.m.c^42
Non-votes: Sulit


Day 2

Vecna (8) Balki Bartokomous kgray damo666* Fluminator* Foxcastle* Chaqa* xorxes* Vecna* bozotheclown
Pjandy (2) worcej* rdrivera2005*
bo_sox48 (2) BunnyGo* Jamiet99uk
Non-votes: bo_sox48 e.m.c^42 Pjandy BobMcBob


Day 3

BobMcBob (7) xorxes worcej bozotheclown BunnyGo Balki Bartokomous Fluminator e.m.c^42
e.m.c^42 (6) damo666 rdrivera2005 Jamiet99uk kgray Foxcastle Chaqa
Chaqa (1) BobMcBob


Day 4

e.m.c^42 (8) Jamiet99uk BunnyGo Fluminator damo666 Balki Bartokomous kgray xorxes bozotheclown
xorxes (3) e.m.c^42 Foxcastle rdrivera2005
Chaqa (1) Chaqa


Day 5

rdrivera2005 (4) xorxes Jamiet99uk Fluminator kgray
Foxcastle (3) Balki Bartokomous damo666 rdrivera2005
kgray (3) BunnyGo bozotheclown Foxcastle

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#4119 Post by Jamiet99uk » Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:06 pm

I might support a no-lynch but I do not support an endhammer and Flum is a bit stinky for immediately voting for one.

We absolutely should all re-evaluate, based on the knowledge that Fox was town.

I will update the lovely colourful vote chart in a moment.

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Re: M54: Not a Carrot Conspiracy

#4120 Post by Jamiet99uk » Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:07 pm

Oh, thanks Xorxes, you've saved me that task.

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